Officially a Cali Resident

8 12 2008

Hey everyone, 

 

Doing e-mail format here. Just feel like it. Plus this will probably be a bit short. I am sitting at boo’s place – he’s watching Anchorman. I love lamp. 

 

Here is some Afternoon Delight for you to enjoy before I get into the meat of the point of the blog.

 

 

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BTW – meat is murder. 

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(Yes I own that shirt lol). 

You can get a lot of these shirts at threadless.com 

Anyway – so I found an apartment. Its adorable. Its pretty much the place I knew I would move into. I saw it online and said if I like the inside I’ll do it. I put a deposit down that day! So I’ve just been hanging out since I got that done with the first day. My attention span is at a low right now so i’ll pop off. Will report back when I get back into town. 

 

Happy Travels,

 

Rowdy

 

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8 12 2008
Clo

YaY Rowdy! I’m so happy for you! I hope you’re having fun in warm, sunny Cali. We got hit with a clipper, which means snow, a lot in a little time, and it’s FREEZING, so, that’s fun.

This weekend was a bunch of running around. We did a little Christmas shopping, we didn’t spend a lot of money, we went to the outlets, so…. We didn’t really spend more than 20 dollars on anyone, but… I mean it’s nice to be able to get people a little something.

We also took Cayden to see Santa, which was a mess. We looked it up online and at Easton (a mall) it said it was 5 dollars for one pic and then you could take pics with your own camera. So we decided to do that. So we get there and they’re closing so Santa can go on break. And I didn’t really want to wait cause Easton is a higher end mall, so there’s a bunch of crappy expensive stores that even if I had the money, I wouldn’t shop in… They have some decent stores there, but those are all in the outdoor part of the mall, and in Ohio it’s really dumb to have an outdoor mall, cause it’s either really really hot, or really really cold. Anyway, so we decide to go to Polaris mall, cause it’s not thar far away, and I figure Santa pictures will be the same price, and they have better stores, and it’s all indoor. 20 dollars for one “sheet” which either means 1 5X7, 2 somethings (I forget) or 1 sheet of wallet sizes (I think there were 4 or 6 wallets). 20 freaking dollars! Forget what I said about Santa getting laid off, he’s rolling in the dough! We went ahead and got the pictures cause I didn’t want to stick Cayden back in his Christmas outfit (a onesie that says “good things come in small packages) and drag him back out in the cold on another day. We got a package for 25 dollars that was 4 “sheets” and figured we’d give hubby’s Aunt and Uncle a picture in a frame for their Christmas present. But still. Santa’s a rip.

And hubby talked to his Dad about his Mom’s behavior, and told him point blank that when we made plans they needed to stick with them, or else they just weren’t going to see Cayden. I really don’t want to do that, but I mean… I want my Mother in law to know that it’s not about her anyway, and I don’t want her to hurt Cayden by trying to control things. My husband had kinda a bad childhood, and doesn’t get to see his Dad very much because of her. And I mean, I’d like Cayden to know his Grandparents, but… I’m done with the drama. So, if that means we just don’t see them, then… I guess that’s how it is. We told them to talk about it, and let us know when they want to hang out, and we’ve yet to hear from them, so…. I dunno what that means.

How was everyone elses weekends? Witchy did you get your tree?

8 12 2008
Witchypoo

Hey there, Ladies. Yes, Cloey, we got our tree today…my spawn are busy decorating it as I’m typing this. It’s been a busy weekend, (just like for most everybody during the month of December). Like you Cloey, we took mini-spawn to see Santa at a local mall – it’s a really good setup where we went. We went yesterday evening, (Saturday); we’d planned on going earlier in the day, but Chance had an all-day event with his baseball team that had been planned in advance, (breakfast at 9:00 am, then paintballing, followed by quading, hot-tubbing, video games, other outside and inside activities, etc. It was an all-day event…we didn’t pick him up until almost 6:00 pm, and he was SO tired. Heath insisted that Chancey HAD to come with us to see Santa; he was very adament about that. So, we wound up having all three spawn sitting with Santa, with Heath in the middle on Santa’s lap. Of course, I’m a sucker for pictures, so we got a package, plus greeting card pictures, (I’ll use them for my Christmas cards I send out every year), as well as a really nice light-up frame for a 5×7, (it’s shaped like a fireplace, with a toy train, Christmas tree, mantle with hanging stockings, and lots of blinking lights), and a key chain holder for a wallet-sized picture of them, also. It’s a really cute picture of the three of them; during the long wait in a HUGE line, Heath kept calling out to Santa and waving at him as soon as he had him within earshot and sight…it was really cute to see him get so excited when Santa would wave back at him and smile. Was Cayden awake for his picture? That’s an easy age to have his picture taken…before he’s old enough to possibly be skittish about sitting on Santa’s lap, you know? Today was a rainy mess while we were “scouting” out our Christmas tree; we go to a tree farm that’s family-owned, and there’s hot apple cider, candy canes…all that. Heath kept falling because it was so slippery plodding around in the muddy dirt while looking for a tree over a really huge area; he’s run and lose footing, so by the time we got back to the truck, he was pretty well covered in mud. It was fun, though. The tree is starting to look really pretty with all the white lights, and gold and red strings of beads, (that’s all the boys have on it, so far). Do you get a tree every year, Cloey? How about the rest of you ladies?

Cloey, I’ll bet your inlaws will eventually accept what you and Jeremy have decided on for the welfare of your little family; what other choice do they have? It’s not like you’re asking for anything unreasonable, anyway. At least they finally know what your expectations are…and Jeremy took responsibility for dealing with his parents. That’s a good thing. I can relate to Jeremy’s “kinda bad childhood” regarding his mother…my mom was a pain in the ass most of the time while I was growing up, also. What can you do but try to make the best of things, you know?

Goldie…a BIG congrats on accomplishing what I’m sure was a tricky task – finding a nice place to live that you can afford in southern Cali. Don’t you feel relieved having that major project all wrapped up?! Now you can celebrate the holidays with an easier mind, hugh? Is your boo happy about the new, accessible living arrangements? Has he had anymore random jealousy episodes? He must be a little more insecure about you than he generally lets on, (why else would he flip out about you not answering your phone)? Jerry used to pull those kinds of “tantrums” on me all the time when I wasn’t where he thought I should be at any given time; it drove me crazy. He still gets weird about me and my cell phone, sometimes…I try to be careful to make sure the damn thing is charged, accessible to me when I’m out, etc. Every now and then I’ll run out the door without it, or I’ll forget to charge the damn thing – he gets pretty annoyed when I do things like that. Cell phones are generally really convenient and useful…but sometimes I feel like tossing mine right out the window of my moving vehicle when I’m feeling hassled and annoyed, you know?

Well, Ladies…nightie-night, and take care.

8 12 2008
lara21167

Good Monday Morning ladies. Congrats Rowdy on your apartment. Like Witchy said that has to be a big relief 🙂 My sis would love that shirt lol.

Cloey I’m glad hubby talked to his father. Sounds like his father is the more reasonable and understanding of the two. Hopefully they will come around. I’m sure she’ll have to sulk a while first. I know Santa pics are sooo expensive anymore. I remember when they first went digital and the price for a pic like tripled!! And they want you to buy one even if you take your own.

Witchy, I’m going to check out the Hottie site in just a minute. I still wonder what happened to the other guy. That was rather strange. Yes we get a tree and we also go to a family owned tree farm where you get to cut down your own, and they have hot cider and hot chocolate. We are going next Saturday. It’s funny because my daughter always asks if we are going to the place with the Hot Chocolate. Last year when we went we got some sad news though. I guy that lived and worked on the “farm” that my husband knew had been electricuted while working on his dryer only like 3 weeks before. Terrible thing.

So how was everyone else’s weekend? Mine was quiet.

8 12 2008
Clo

We don’t get a real tree, which I really do miss. Maybe when Cayden is older, I’ll be able to talk Jeremy into doing the tree farm (Cause it sounds like you guys had tons of fun, and I remember it being a big deal and tons of fun when I was younger.) But right now we just drag the fake tree out of the closet upstairs. It’s nice in some ways, cause you don’t have to spend the money every year, and you don’t really have to deal with the needles…. But I miss the smell that comes with a real tree, and the excitement of finding the real tree, and listening to my Mom grumble about how next year we need to check the trunk before we bought a tree, cause the trunk NEVER seemed to fit in our tree stand (and by next year we ALWAYS forgot to check the trunk.)

I’m jealous of your sons all day trip, Witchy, lol. That sounds like a lot of fun, and I want to go! and all your kids on Santa’s lap sounds like a good pic. Our Santa had a nice set up where there was this reindeer sitting next to Santa that kids could sit on and get their pictures taken with him, so if your kid was too scared to sit on his lap, he could just sit next to him on the reindeer. Cayden was awake, we have pics on myspace up. It was nice, cause they also emailed you the pic, so we can just email it to other friends and family. I wish I could see your pics Witchy! I thought about doing greeting cards but they always end up being a waste of money, cause I just never end up sending them out for some reason. I dunno why, I’ll write them out, address them, stamp them, and just am horrible about actually sending them.

Lara, I wish we had a quiet weekend. Jeremy and I fought on Friday about his parents, Saturday we dropped Cayden off in the middle of a snow storm (took us an hour to get to my Moms, it’s usually 20 minutes, 30 in bad traffic) Then we drove down to the outlets, and came back and rented the first season of Dexter (anyone else watch that show? We’ve heard so much hype about it we had to watch it, and it’s not bad so far.) Sunday we picked Cayden up, did the Santa thing and ran a bunch of errands. I promised Jeremy that next weekend we can just stay at home and hang out, and not go anywhere. We may need to run out to the hallmark store or something. We’re looking for a “babies first christmas” ornament, and the only ones I’ve been able to find are ugly and plastic.

And Jeremy’s dad is great. And he LOVES Cayden. There is NO doubt in my mind that George (my Father in law) would be here every chance he got if it weren’t for my Mother in law. It’s just… Like I said before, I get canceling every once in awhile, or showing up a little late, or a little early… But by making plans with us, and then deciding to show up when she wants, or not at all, she’s being rude and inconsiderate, and basically telling us that our time doesn’t matter. And I’m just done. And I also don’t want her to do that to Cayden. I mean what if Cayden has like a play or a concert or some sport activity, and they show up 3 hours late? Or cancel right before? Cayden would be looking foreward to his grandparents being there and they’d miss it, because she’s got this control issue. And I get sometimes those things will happen but… All the time? I dunno, we still haven’t heard from them, and I’m really not calling them first this time. The balls in their court, and if Christmas comes and goes and they don’t see him, I guess that’s on them.

I mean they’ve seen him only 4-5 times since he’s been born. He’s going to get to the age soon where he’s scared of people he doesn’t know, and he doesn’t know them, and I’m not going to let him scream and cry while they hold him to get used to them (cause I know that’s what they’ll suggest.) Plus, he’s already changed SO much since the last time they saw him. He’s pretty much holding his head up by himself, and soon he’ll be sitting up… I dunno, it’s just sad. But again, it’s on them.

8 12 2008
Clo

Oh yeah, I forgot. I was reading this article this morning and it almost made me cry. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081206/ap_on_re_us/secret_santa It’s nice to read articles like that and know that stuff like that goes on still, especially right after I read an article like this: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_usa_economy_factory

8 12 2008
Clo

Oh yeah, I forgot. I was reading this article this morning and it almost made me cry. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081206/ap_on_re_us/secret_santa It’s nice to read articles like that and know that stuff like that goes on still, especially right after I read an article like this: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_usa_economy_factory

8 12 2008
lara21167

Your right it is on them. Hopefully for Cayden’s sake your FIL with stand up to his wife for once in his life. I do think about getting a fake tree, but my daughter is dead set against. I get sooo tired of cleaning up the needles, and although I love the smell it makes me sneeze, my daughter too. lol When she is older I’ll give up on the real tree thing.

ok, any advise on how to make a toddler eat. I know from experience this is a tricky thing. My nephew who is like 16 months has lost some weight and he is just a tiny thing. He doesn’t eat hardly anything. His Mother talked to the people at WIC about it and now they are being all nasty with her like she’s not giving him the right foods and all. So she has to right down everything he eats and what is offered to him. Some things they told her I don’t agree with like no butter or jelly on toast, use peanut butter (no I like peanut butter on toast but I don’t see anything wrong with a little butter and/or a little jelly or even fruit spread) They also told her to use 2% milk and limit his mile to 2 cups a day. Ah milk is good for you and a baby needs that extra fat. I do understand that he does drink alot of milk and they prob think he is filling up on it, I’ve thought the same thing But they are like no sugar what so ever. I’m sorry but a sugary treat once and a while never hurt anyone. (unless your diabetic that is) I suggested she give me pediasure or something like that, as a suppliment. What is everyone’s take on this. Janey I know you mentioned that you have to force feed Munchkin sometimes. Cloey listen, you will be tring to feed a toddler soon enough lol

8 12 2008
lara21167

Well got a few typo’s in that one. I like peanut butter on toast, and I didn’t suggest that she give “me” pedisure, but her son “him” lol

8 12 2008
Clo

I worked with a very picky four year old. Sometimes she’d refuse to eat, and she’d get REALLY cranky (because she was hungry) but would still refuse to eat, so we’d have to MAKE her eat. I mean what we did there, was just find out what she wanted and if she wanted a grilled cheese every day, so be it. They also gave her a multi vitamin, but I think sometimes it might be a control thing. We also kept “special” food for when she really refused just everything else. We had to keep those in case of emergencies type deal, or else they’d no longer be special and she wouldn’t want them anymore, but just certain foods like chicken nuggets but they’d be shaped like animals. Also “fun” food like that. It may also help if he got involved in the cooking… Like kid friendly cooking foods, like english muffin pizza’s. I mean, I would just try to make food fun, foods shaped like things, or use food coloring to “dye” his food so it’s fun colors (but make sure you check with him first, some kids refuse to eat things that don’t look like it normally does) I know yogurt was a big thing for Rose (the little girl I watched) she LOVED go-gurt cause it came in a tube and was different… We also got her on a schedule, she knew before she went to school she had to have breakfast, and when she got home from school it was time for lunch, and mid-afternoon we did books and milk, and then “quiet time” and then a snack, and we explained to her that if she didn’t eat, she couldn’t play, because food was fuel for her body, and if her body didn’t have fuel, it couldn’t go. I mean, she still had her melt downs and days when she refused to eat, but they were a lot fewer and farther between. Like I said, sometimes I think it’s just a control thing, but I know kids just tend to love “fun” snacks, like goldfish crackers…. Or putting goldfish crackers in his soup and tell him to go “fishing” stuff like that.

8 12 2008
lara21167

Good ideas there Cloey, part of Brian’s problem is they, and by they I mean his mother and grandmother, don’t make him sit down to eat. They just give him something and let him walk around with it. If he’s at Grandma’s it usually winds being given to the dog or just placed nicely on the floor. I think they need to make him sit and hand feed him if necessary. Sat we were over there and they gave him his evening snack. And his mother is tring she is just so clueless. She gave him a Gerber bisquit thing that is whole grain and good for you. Well he took a little bite and that was about all, So my mother in law, his grandmother said to give him some animal crackers. So I had to speak up and tell them that animal crackers prob. have no nutritional value. (they also like to give him saltines which he likes but plain they have no nutritional value-with peanut butter they’d be ok.) Anyway they ended up giving him some other Gerber cracker thing that was whole grain and he ate a couple of those, but I really think it would help if they make him sit in his highchair and eat.

8 12 2008
Witchypoo

Yup, Lara…that’s true about the baby needing to be placed in one stationary spot, (like a highchair), in order to get him to settle into eating. There are just too many distractions and friendly animals to get in the way of effective nutrition when a toddler/small child is allowed to wander around with food.

Btw…good morning, Ladies. How’s it going? Take care.

8 12 2008
Clo

Not to mention kids do well with structure and routine (not EVERYTHING has to be strict, but you know, a loose plan works well…) So yeah, the highchair would help. A child knows it’s time to go to sleep when he gets into his bed, so he should know it’s time to eat when they sit in the chair…. How old is he? Can he get into a routine, wash hands, then get into high chair?

8 12 2008
lara21167

He’s 16 – 17 months. He can get into a routine. His mother and he lived with my mother in law until about 2 months ago. And they still spend alot of their time at my mother in laws. And my MIL is soooo lenient (sp??) with him. He is the spawn of her favorite, but worst child, the one who won’t leave home lol. Anyhoo she still rocks him to sleep, which is ok I guess, he fusses in his high chair so he’s not made to sit in it. Sat his mother tried to put him in time out for not listening to her, he made time out a game then went right back doing what she told him not too. When mother went to reach for him, he ran and leaped into grandma’s arms and she held him and hugged him and completed underminded his mother!! So yes he is spoiled rotten but he is a sweet and loving little man. Oh and Witchy my MIL has a Golden Retriever that likes to take Brian’s food right out of his hand, whether or not it was offered to him lol

8 12 2008
Witchypoo

Giggle-giggle…that’s funny about the opportunistic doggie, Lara. We have 2 beagles who know what a soft touch my little man, (actually, all 3 of the spawn, and sometimes Jerry, too), Heath is with handing out shares of food. They eagerly try to crowd the eating table area where mini-spawn eats most of his meals. I try to be vigilant about shooing them away…but sometimes I get distracted.

8 12 2008
Clo

We used to foster dogs… And I would never own a beagle, lol. I guess that’s not true, I just would be very selective about the beagle I owned, and would try to get a young one, lol. There was a woman we knew who pulled dogs from this backwoods shelter (we have a lot of them in Ohio, and it’s horrible, because not a lot of people live in these areas, therefore these shelters are under funded and under staffed, and kill rates are high because nobody adopts the dogs. This particular shelter had gotten in trouble for shooting their dogs as their way of putting them to sleep. Then they switched to something called heart stick, which is also horrible, but I won’t go into that.) Anyway, we kept getting beagles, and they just had some problems. I mean, it wasn’t their fault, they were most likely hunting dogs who got dumped because they couldn’t do their job, but… They had potty issues, one of them was starving, beagles are notorious for being overweight because they don’t stop eating until you remove food from them… We had this one who had digestive issues (probably worms, but it was just our job to house/feed/love the dog, they came and took him to the vet. Which is why I advocate fostering, and we’d do it more if we didn’t have a baby, because I mean, you get the joy of owning a dog, and helping it, without having to worry about his medical care which is probably the most expensive part of owning a pet. Some places even supply food.) Anyway, I digress… This dog pooped in what we called poop circles (cause they looked like crop circles, only in poop.) Always at the top of our staircase. Dunno why he did it, he just did. We could also never let the beagles off leash, because they tended to “follow their noses” even if that meant right into the middle of the street.

Anyway, speaking of Fostering, my husband called FCCS and they’re going to mail us some paperwork. I said as soon as Cayden slept through the night, I’d be OK with taking in a child, and Cayden slept till 6 AM this morning without waking, sooo by the time we get our classes done and all the paperwork filled out, my guess is we’ll be there. I’m still not 100% sure I want to start it YET, but just because we take the classes doesn’t mean that we have to foster, and we may have to wait awhile for a child (because we have limited space, so we can only take one child at a time, and we want a certain age group to mesh with Cayden.) so…. I mean Cayden is young, but I want him to grow up knowing how lucky he is. We may not have a ton of money and we may not be able to buy him everything he wants, but we love him, and he’s lucky.

8 12 2008
lara21167

That is sooo sweet of you Cloey, I don;t know if I could do it. I’m too much of a pushover and troublesome kids take advantage lol. My niece did that (the one in rehab) when she was 17 her mother threw her out and turned to me crying. So we took her in. Didn’t turn out well. She is just someone who does not want to following rules. Anyhoo, dogs are something else I guess. Our area has been experiencing a high rate of abuse to dogs. This morning on the news a 4 week old pit bull/mix pup was found by someone in a trash bag. Poor thing died later, but it did have some medical condition. The owner said he thought it was dead. They took the mother and 8 more pups, they are all in good condition. But even if the guy thought the pup was dead you wouldn’t just throw it away with the trash. Then one of the worst cases ever around here, a pit bull female I think she’s 2 years old. This couple had her locked in their attic, her mouth ducked taped shut (so she wouldn;t bark) she was dehydrated and starved half to death. When they took her out, they wrapped a chain around her mouth so tight it cut into her snout. This is how they got caught, someone saw them walking her and turned them in. It was a man and woman. The woman later told police she didn’t feed the dog because it’d poop in the house. There are really people out there that should never be pet owners or parents. (Imagine if this dumb bitch had a baby and did not feed the baby because she was tired of changing diapers.)

8 12 2008
Clo

I don’t understand those people…. It’s really simple, if you don’t want to clean up poop, don’t own a dog. It’s really not that complicated, it’s not like you HAVE to be a dog owner, you know? I wish we could own a pit so bad, because they’re really beautiful animals with such a horrible stigma attached to them. But we’re not allowed because we rent, and our landlord says no “vicious” dogs. (Ohio actually has a law stating that pit bulls are vicious, and they’re trying to pass a bill right now banning pit bulls, and “destroying” (it’s not destruction, it’s murder) all pit bulls.

We just heard this horrible story about these people diluted their formula, not because they were abusive, but because they didn’t have the money to buy formula, and needed to save it. I hate to think what some parents have to do right now, diapers and formula are soooo expensive.

8 12 2008
Witchypoo

Dumb bitch?…nah…I’d say she sounds more like Cloey’s creative descriptive term: crusty cunt. Yeah…that’s it. The world can be a crazy place, yes?

8 12 2008
Witchypoo

Btw, Cloey…what happened, if anything, to the baby who’s parents were diluting his/her formula? Is the baby ok?

Take care.

8 12 2008
Clo

The baby almost died, but ended up being OK. I’m not sure what happened to the parents, if they got in trouble. But they looked young and I’m not sure if criminal charges should have been pressed. I mean, what they did was horrible, but it’s not like it was intentional, and there was a woman who left her kid in the car and it died (she said she “forgot” her child was in the car, which… I dunno this happens all the time, at least I’ve heard like 5 different instances where it happened. And they all seem to be a little older, I mean maybe if the child was a newborn, I could see how you could forget, you’re used to not having a kid… Whatever, I digress.) and she didn’t get any charges pressed against her. And I think these people just thought, you know, formula needs 2 scoops, whats the harm if we cut that to one? And the formula lasts a little longer. You know.

8 12 2008
janelyse829

hey guys!

Lara- yes thats what i do to Munchkin. i sit him down and feed him myself and if he wants to feed himself he knows that if he gets up from the table before he is done with his food he gets a consequence. and he knows that if he flat out refuses to eat he cant watch tv or have any sweets for the rest of the day or until he decides he wants to eat. sometimes i feel like im being mean but i know that its for his own good. i dont want him to get sick or anything.

im not really in a christmas-y mood right now. Ezi and i got into a fight yesturday and today. =[ im kinda avoiding everyone right now. i think im going to write a poem.

Rowdy-thats GREAT! im glad that things are working out for you and i hope that yu are having lots of fun and enjoy it. life is too short to regret anything and pay too much attention to the petty things that seem so important to us at times.

9 12 2008
lara21167

Cloey – Really that is no excuse for the couple cutting down their baby’s formula
there is sooo much help in this country for getting formula and baby food. Of course if they were young they might not have known that, and then their are people with too much pride. And people leaving kids in cars, they do that in Md all the time too. One time when I had a different baby sitter and my daughter was a baby I drove to work with her, forgot to stop at the babysitters. But I knew she was in the car with me, I just can’t imagine forgetting that she was in the car. I always drove one eye on the road and one in the rearview mirror adjusted so I could see my babies. Recently we had a case where a woman left her toddler home in bed and went to a bar. The husband was working nights, he came home wife gone baby alone. He called the police and had her arrested.

Janey-That’s exactly what they need to do, put Brian in a highchair, hand feed him if necessary/ And a little bribe of something sweet after eating never hurt anyone. So what’s up with you and Ezi? Nothing serious I hope

9 12 2008
Witchypoo

Good morning, Ladies…how’s it going? Hey, Cloey, yeah, I’d like to share some of our pictures with you guys, (if anything, just so you could put faces with names, you know?). It’s a bit of a touchy subject with Jerry, (I’m assuming, since it took him a while to even get used to me corresponding with you guys…especially on the Hottie site, since it’s so public). I don’t want to portray him as some kind of control freak, (though, it’s possible that he could be marginal, if I let him…but nothing “weird” or whatever – just annoying). He’s just very…protective, fairly cynical and suspicious also, regarding people and their motives, (especially people he doesn’t know). He tells me sometimes that I’m naive’ about certain aspects of human nature, (specifically, MALE human nature)…but I’m able to decide rather quickly if someone appeals to my instinctual nature or not; my “filtering” method obviously works best when I can see facial expressions, observe body language, etc., though. I was always pretty accurate in my opinions/impressions of guys before getting together with Jerry, though…so I just laugh at him whenever he gets on this subject. I mean, I understand his point of view…he’s just trying to insulate us from the seedier elements of Life, (he’s very protective and vigilant with our boys, also…fortunately, they’ve had great judgement so far regarding choosing friends). So, his intentions are loving; sometimes, though, I tell him that looking for the best in people is much more productive and satisfying than scouting out the worst. Usually, people respond to friendly, positive “vibes”, and they behave accordingly. Hmmm…how did I wander off in this direction? Oh, yeah: pictures. Well, ever since I’ve been able to see some of your’s, (Cloey, Lara, and Janey’s), I’ve wanted to show you some of our’s, also. I’m going to talk more to Beau, (who’s nearly as careful about privacy as my husband), about posting our pictures somewhere, or visiting one of your sites, maybe??? (I don’t know…can visitors on your facebook thingy-ma-jigs share their photos? I told you I don’t have any experience with these networking sites…). Anyhoo, I’ll bring it up to Jerry, also…I mean, he’s pretty comfortable with me visiting with you guys, now, and he doesn’t seem concerned about the Hottie site, or bedroom blog, either. Another thing – his newest hobby is playing with electronic/digital images on the computer, using our digital photos to make joke pictures, (they ARE pretty hilarious), and joke animations with our family photos. He’s also interested in getting our photos, (hundreds of them), and home movies all organized on dvd’s…catalogued, etc. THAT would be great. His Christmas presant this year is a new digital camera that does all kinds of cool things…so we’ll see if he makes any progress.

So…how’s the morning going for all of you? Take care.

9 12 2008
lara21167

Good Morning, afternoon now Witchy. I understand where your hubby is coming from. You hear so much about weirdos on the computer. I’ve encountered a few. This girl emailed me once on myspace saying she was a college student doing research on spanking children. I sent it to a friend and asked her what she thought. She said it sounded on the up and up. So I answered some of her questions and started getting the feeling that it was going somewhere I didn’t want to go. But as I kept a very “mother” approach she lost interest and went away. But some of the questions started getting, like how old and how long should a child be spanked. I think she was testing the waters so to speak probably promoting some porn site. And one time some guy tried to IM me writing something like, “haven’t talk to you in a while” I had no clue who it was so I ignored it and he went away. So for the most part if you ignore the wierdos they’ll go bother someone else. Anyhoo back to myspace. You can create a myspace and set it to private so that only people you allow as “friends” can view it. I’m not sure about posting on someone elses site. You’d be more than welcome to use mine. I can give you my email and password. Anyone else have any suggestions??

So from Rowdy’s comment on the Hottie site sounds like she is having a great time in Cali!! And Rowdy, didn’t we tell you everything would work out??lol

9 12 2008
Witchypoo

Thanks, SweetLara…I’ll talk to the naysayer and see what he says about posting pictures on your site. You’re so friendly and hospitable…very NICE qualities.

Take care.

9 12 2008
Janelyse829

Lara- his best friend killed himslef and he wrote a letter to Ezi. i guess that he told him that he was always jealous of him because he was in love with me and at times he hated ezi because he had me but he wouldnt say anything to him because he knew that Ezi was happy.
now Ezi says its my fault. i didnt even know Kevin like that. i spoke to him a few times and Ezi was with me when i did and thats about it. the reason he gave for doing what he did was that his mom had cancer and he couldnt stand to watch her die.but it doesnt matter to Ezi. its my fault that Kevin died.
i understand that he’d upset right now and that he prolly just needs someone to blame and take his anger out on. i just dont think that blaming me for Kevins death is going to help him. or me. he’s basically telling me that i killed his best friend.

the thing is he’s not the only one tha had died. one of my friends also killed herself. she was 17. and my cousins friend was in a car accident and died. its crazy right now. i feel like everyone is dying around me and they are. i dont want Ezi to get depressed. i really wouldnt be able to stand it if he did something stupid and killed himslef too. i dint think he’s that type of person. although i didnt think Kaitlynn was that type of person either. we never knew anything. she never acted depressed or sad. she was so happy and always smiling. i guess its true; it only takes one smile to cover up a million tears. i wrote a poem and im going to read it at her funeral.
its very bad so i want to know what you guys think in case i decided to edit it.
[i havent even named it yet]

Death, darkness, pain, tears
All things that surround my world
Desperate screams, why’d you go’s, can’t believe you’re gone’s
All things that surround my ears
Denial,the need to move on, the need to bring you back
All things that make it impossible for me not to believe its not real
Sounds of shattering walls, feeling trapped, needing to get out
All things that indicate that my world is falling apart
Silent tears, unspoken words, unsaid goodbye’s
All things that follow an untimely death
Empty spaces, broken hearts, unanswered questions
All things that make me realize you are gone; never to return again
Silence,
The one thing that shows you didnt trust me enough to tell me what was wrong

9 12 2008
lara21167

Witchy, I set up a folder for your pics if Hubby lets you. Then I set my whole page to private.

My email is: lara21167@yahoo.com (I use this for everything!!)
password is: dalton67 (grandmother’s maiden name-I have no imagination!!)

9 12 2008
lara21167

Janey I am sooo sooo sorry for what you are going through right now. Your poem is beautiful as usual. You read that and there will not be a dry eye in the place. And I am very upset with Ezi, It is in no way your fault that his friend decided to kill himself. Doesn’t sound like he knew you well enough to want you for himself, sounds like he was jealous that Ezi was in a relationship with a beautiful, intelligent woman. You can’t help that, and Ezi can’t help that. Was Ezi supposed to live his life lonely and unhappy to make his friend happy!! I am sorry but Ezi friend was very selfish, one to take his life leaving those that loved him to suffer his pain and 2) to push the blame, whether he meant to or not, on his friend. And I wouldn’t worry about Ezi commiting suidicide over this. He’s just really hurt and confused right now. Ezi is probably blaming himself and taking it out on you. Just let him deal with his grief by himself for now. That’s about all you can do.

Now I’m not superstitious but death does seem to run in 3’s you have your 3. We will send our positive vibes your way Janey dear. And you know where we are if you need to “talk”.

9 12 2008
Janelyse829

Lara- i know. Kevin had some other issues as well. i mean it cant be easy watching your mother die and not being able to do shit about it. i know i would go nuts. Ezi and Kevin were as close as i am with my mom. i never suspected that he even liked me and he certainly didnt let ezi even suspect. Kaitlynns parents got divorced last year and her sister moved in with their grandma.

Ezi called me and he doesnt know what to. he said he sorry for he way he talked to me and i mean i get it. he’s got all the questions fpr Kevin that i have for Kaitlynn and he diesnt know how to deal with it. i just want to be there for him but right now i cant even be there for myself. i am sooo mad at her. why couldnt she just talk to someone? why couldnt she just tell her parents what was going on? i mean if she did this so they would listen to her they certainly cant listen now; she’s got nothing to say.

i hate all of this nd i need to get out of here soon.

9 12 2008
Witchypoo

Oh, Janey…you poor girl. I know how you feel – really. My best friend, Kurt, killed himself many years ago. It was terrible, and I still think about him often. Ezi is hurting right now, also…but he needs to realize that you are not his whipping boy whenever he’s upset or angry about something. How is it supposed to make you feel when he lashes out irrationally at you? After all this has settled down for the two of you, I’d sit him down and let him know that if he wants your relationship continue to grow and flourish over the test of time…he needs to think about your feelings before he spews all over you. Reactions like that just create resentment and distrust over time. Not good. We’re all thinking about you, Sweetie.

Take care.

9 12 2008
Witchypoo

supposed to read, “your relationship TO continue to grow and flourish”,…blah-blah-blah.

10 12 2008
lara21167

Well said Witchy, I was going to suggest to you Janey a little talk with Ezi when you both are feeling better. He needs to know he can lean on you when he needs to, but not to lash out at you like that. I mean it’s hard because you know he’s hurting and he doesn’t mean it, but he needs to know you are on his side and vice versa. Time will heal the best it can. I get so angry with people who take their own lives. They just don’t realize what they do to those that love them. And unfortunately when they are in that state of mind, they prob don’t think anyone cares. Once again we are here for you.

10 12 2008
Janey

i feel horrible! i was at my cousins last night and when i came back my stomack hurt and i had a headache. then i started puking and now i just feel horrible. i wonder why im always sick…might be the ridiculous weather change. or maybe my amunne system just sucks. =[ i was asleep at 5:15 in the evening yesturday. that NEVER happens!

10 12 2008
Janey

sorry i mispelled stomach

10 12 2008
lara21167

Janey you may be sick from stress. I get like that, stomach upset, headache, and tired when I’m stressed. Sleep is my stress drug lol. Get some rest and try to stop wondering why, I know you will wonder that the rest of your life but it doesn’t do any good. The only one who can answer that question, is gone.

Take care

10 12 2008
Janey

lara- you might be right about the stress.
idk im just tired i guess.
im laying on the couch watching will and grace.
love that show. desperate houswives is about to start lol
im feeling a lil better. if i feel a lot better in a little while im
going to go for a drive and see where i end up. i hate being in the house all day.
acyally i should go for a walk. its only 40 degreese today

10 12 2008
Janey

misspelled housewives and actually

10 12 2008
lara21167

Didn’t even notice the misspellings lol. It is nearly 60 degrees in good ‘ol Md. 2 days ago the high was like 35. Goofy weather..

10 12 2008
Clo

My Uncle killed himself in 2001. I’m still asking myself why he didn’t. There’s a million and one things that run through your mind when someone kills themselves, at least it does when it happened to me. Why’d they do it? Didn’t they love me enough to go on? Did they know how much I loved them? Ect.

Take it from someone who once tried to kill themselves, it’s a totally selfish act. You’re just in so much pain and you don’t know what to do or how to ask for help or how to get yourself out. Life sucks so bad, it’s just not worth living anymore, and it’s hard to see that all hard times end, when it feels like your life is just one continuous hard time. It has nothing to do with anyone else, just…The person isn’t strong enough to keep on fighting.

The thing I did for my sister when her ex Gus killed himself not too long ago, is just be there for her. She got moody, she took things out on us, she cried, she was sensitive. And we just took it, cause she just needed to work through it. She still misses him, I think. She carries around his cross necklace, it’s always going to be hard for her. I still miss my Uncle every day. But, it does get easier to deal with the pain.

I’m in a state of constant bad mood lately. Jeremy and I are fighting a lot lately… I guess I’m just a little disappointed in him. My husband is a great guy, but lacks in the sympathy/romance department and… I dunno. I feel like I’ve been through a lot this past year, with being pregnant, and then all the came after the baby. I guess I just expected something… A special date, flowers… Something. And I’m just still really resentful about everything that happened in the hospital, with everyone leaving me alone in the recovery room so they could go see the baby, and then not sticking around when I had my gall bladder out. Don’t get me wrong, I love Cayden, and I get that now he comes first. But, for example, my mom takes him every weekend just about for a night, and she’s taking him this weekend… And after all week I’ve been dropping hints about romantic dates (I mean, billboard size hints, like we were at the mall and they were doing carriage rides, and I went on and on about how romantic it was and how I’ve always wanted to do something like that…) and I was hoping this weekend would be it… But he scheduled a job instead. And I don’t think he’s going to surprise me. I dunno, it’s petty stuff, but it leads to arguments, cause we’re both busting our asses, him at work, me at home with the baby and the laundry and the dishes and the dinner… I mean, we’re just trying to figure it out, you know… I get that it always won’t be this hard. But, then I go and try to vent to my Mom, and she ALWAYS takes Jeremy’s side, and then starts in on how much SHE went through with all 3 of us… And the thing is, I didn’t ask my mom to make any of those sacrifices, and I didn’t ask to be born. I mean, I’m glad she did, and I’m grateful, but I don’t see why it always has to be thrown up in my face. Those are choices SHE made, and she gets so pissed off if I don’t decide to make the same choices.

10 12 2008
lara21167

Cloey men are just soooo clueless they don’t get hints no matter how big. And if you straight out tell him what you want that just takes the fun out of the whole thing. And he is probably thinking he has to work hard to support his family so and he probably doesn’t feel appreciated either. Thus fighting and bickering. I have a suggestion. Take the bull by the horns. Find out when he’ll get done working, I’m assuming Saturday, and make a romantic dinner for just the 2 of you. Once the mood is set it might be easier to suggest that next time he takes you out for a romantic evening. Yes I know it is hard to plan something like this when you are pissed at him lol. And I know you haven’t been feeling well, but if your up to it, give it a try. Sometimes it helps to show a man what you want from them…

10 12 2008
Janey

I am so freaked out right now.
well actually im more GROSSED out.
my car is out being cleaned cause me and ezi were out riding around and we stopped so he could get something to drink cause he was cold. and i didnt get anything cause i dont like to eat or drink when im sick. so he got this nasty tea that smelled disgusting. and he took off the lid to put sugar in it and i puked all over my car. this is the 4th time i throw up today

10 12 2008
lara21167

Janey I know that’s awful. One time, I got the worst stomach virus ever.. I was grocery shopping, felt fine all day. In the middle of shopping I started feeling sick. Got the shopping done, bags in the car had about a 5 minute drive home, and I started throwing up out of nowhere. ANd I couldn’t pull over as there was no where to pull over. THe car stunk forever!!

10 12 2008
Janey

ugh. well i hope they get the smell out as well.
Ezi is pretty grossed out but he’s here taking care of me =]
my boo.

11 12 2008
lara21167

Janey, how are you feeling today? How is everyone else?

11 12 2008
Janey

Lara- im going to see my doctor in a little while. i feel alot worse and i have a fever now =[ its snowing like crazy =[

11 12 2008
Clo

We got ice this morning, no snow. I’ll trade my ice for your snow 🙂 Lara how’s your morning going? Janey, I would def. head to the doc. Like I said on myspace, they may recommend you go to the hospital to get some IVs so you don’t get dehydrated. I got this horrible stomach thing last year… My best friend came up from Tennessee to visit me on my birthday. She took the bus up (she’s afraid to fly and too young to rent a car and she didn’t think her car would make it up here.) and caught something nasty from someone on the bus, and then passed it to me. It sucked, I hadn’t seen her in like a couple years and we were both stuck in the hospital. If it’s like whatever we had (we called it the Bus Ebola, lol.) there’s not much they can do for you, other than IVs, but if you are dehydrated it’ll at least make you feel better. And they should be able to give you something for naseaua… It didn’t really work for me, but it did make me super sleepy, which was nice cause instead of having a killer headache I just slept.

Alright I think I have a poopy diaper to change. Jealous, aren’t you?

11 12 2008
Janey

Clo- lol yes im very jealous =] lmao

11 12 2008
Witchypoo

Good Morning, Ladies…how’s it going? Janey, you poor thing – you’re really not having an easy time of it, lately, hugh? First all the sad events from the last few days…and now you’re sick, too. Throwing up in the car? Blech! The smell would probably be enough to make me hurl – even if I wasn’t actually sick to begin with. Speaking of hurling…my oldest spawn, Beau, woke up this am for school, took a shower, then came down and told me that he keeps throwing up and couldn’t sleep last night, since he didn’t feel very well. So, today is the first day of Lacrosse practice, (light schedule…the “real” season won’t start practicing until late February/early March), but he obviously won’t be able to go – not to mention missing school today, also. The great thing about all the computer technology these days is that students can get practically anything they need to do homework/stay caught up online. So, that’s good. I’m not feeling quite “right”, either…a little shaky in the stomach, like I’m going to hurl any minute. I also feel a little dizzy…my niece’s wedding is this Sunday. Hmmm…Chance is hacking a lot today, also; hopefully, if we’re going to get sick, we’ll get it over with quickly, so we can make the wedding on Sunday. I went out and found the perfect dress, (actually, I think Jerry found it…we were both looking). It’s floor-length, very form-fitting, (without looking TOO form-fitting…in other words, slutty), a beautiful burgundy color, and satiny, kind of heavy material. So pretty….anyhoo, I wouldn’t want us to miss Daniell’s wedding…how often do niece’s get married, anyway, (hopefully, just this once for her). Her older sister, (by only not-quite 2 years – so they’re really close in age, and very close to each other), Kristina, just got dumped by her boyfriend of like, 3 or 4 years. They lived together and all that, and she supported him most of the time – since he didn’t seem to want to hold a steady job. Anyway, he shows his appreciation to her loyalty by getting together with a long-time close, mutual friend. So, Kristina has moved back home with my sister-in-law for a while. All that makes me wonder if she’s a little down about current circumstances…the younger sister marrying first, (cliche’, but probably for a reason), being dumped by a guy who she’d stood by, etc.). Kristina is really sweet – I’m sure she’s happy for the sister she loves so much…but she also has a tendency toward depression, and a lack of self-confidence. I’d like to see her be happier with her life, (she has the look of a lost puppy – my sister-in-law has been talking to me about how she worries about her).

I’m taking mini-spawn to Jerry’s work today so that we can visit and go out to lunch with him; Heath loves doing that.

How’s everyone’s day so far? (Janey…hope you’re feeling better, Sweetie).

Take care.

11 12 2008
Clo

Witchy-

I think there’s something going around. My Mom got sick last night, throwing up and diarreah… My sister said she had a killer headache and thought she was going to throw up… Last I talked to my Mom though, this morning, she said she felt better, so… It might go fast, if it’s the same thing. I was just talking to Janey about how I always get sick and I’ve been trying to keep up on not getting sick. I want to start vitamins, I’ve been washing my hands more, and this was the first year that I got the flu shot…

I hope y’all feel better.

Cayden is ahead of all his milestones, he can bear weight on his legs, he’s holding his head up like a pro, he’s smiling and laughing, and starting to grasp things… However we don’t really do a ton of tummy time (which is my fault) and so he doesn’t really hold up his head when he’s on his tummy. I know it’s not a big deal, there’s TONS of things the books say I should be doing, and I realize if I did them all, all the time, I’d need to stop sleeping, lol. But, we are starting to do tummy time, only now he hates it, and the poor thing just cried himself sleepy, and now he’s passed out.

11 12 2008
lara21167

Sorry to hear everyone’s getting sick. I don’t have time right now to get sick lol. Usually when I do get sick I can keep going. I caught this awful thing last year that was like pneumonia. It was really bad, horrible cough, chest ache, fever and the chills were the worst part. I missed a day and 1/2 of work (I never miss work, just spread my germs all over lol) Then Hubby got it, of course his was worse :), actually it was, because he was throwing up too. But several people I know got it, I didn’t go to the doctor and neither did my husband, but someone I know did and they did a flu test, whatever it was, was not the flu. My daughter usually gets sick once a year. Hasn’t yet this year (knock on wood lol) Janey if you can’t keep fluids down you may need to go to the hospital like Cloey said and get IV fluids.

Witchy hope your family is well enough for your nieces wedding. The dress sounds really pretty. I love to dress up (i’m such a girl lol) I feel bad for the older sister, with her sister’s wedding, Christmas and everything. Got to be tough. But sounds like she is better off and she’ll realize that eventually.

11 12 2008
Janey

i managed to eat breakfast w/o throwin up so i figured i didnt have to go to the doctors.but i ate it at 12 so it was really lunchtime….
i feel a lil bit better =]

11 12 2008
lara21167

Once you get some food and liquids in you, yea you should start feeling better. It is sooo ugle and rainy here it’s depressing. Supposed to get cold tonight and we may get some sleet/freezing rain/snow mixed crap. Oh Joy!!

11 12 2008
Clo

We’re supposed to get that freezing crap too. Ugh. I hate a mix, it makes things such a mess.

My friend is getting induced tomorrow! The bad news is she has pre-eclampsia, and she’s getting induced a couple weeks early (she’s 37 weeks, almost 38 I think, so she should be OK.) I’m so excited for her, but also nervous, I hope everything goes OK, so if y’all could keep Natalie, baby Brice, and her husband Jon in your good thoughts/prayers/good vibrations/whatever I’d appreciate it! She also has Gestational Diabetes, so… I’m guess she won’t get to see baby Brice right away (from what I understand they’ll need to check his blood sugar), which sucks cause I didn’t get to see Cayden right away and it kinda bummed me out a little… But, I think her delivery should go fast (I mean you can never tell) because she’s already 4 cms.

11 12 2008
Janey

Kaitlynns funeral is tonight.
i dont think i can read the poem.
its gonna take a lot for me to go.

11 12 2008
lara21167

Janey, what a time for you to have gotten sick. If you don’t think you can read the poem, don’t. I’m way to emotional I know I couldn’t do that for anyone. I’d choke up and never get the words out. Maybe one day after she is buried, you can to her gravesite and read it to her. She’s the only needs to hear it anyway.

Cloey I’ll send your friend and her baby my prayers and positive thoughts. And Good vibrations, like that one lol.

11 12 2008
Janey

i can do it.
i just dont wanna see her like that
i hate funnerals

11 12 2008
Witchypoo

Hi, Girls…yeah, of course you can do it, Janey. But, if you don’t feel up to it, you can always have the person officiating the service do it; arrangements/requests like that are very common, and everyone understands how hard it is to get up in front of a crowd at an emotional time like that and open your heart and soul to the world. Just play it by ear and see how you feel later, Sweetie.

Cloey, yes…like Lara, I’ll be sending your friend positive thoughts/vibrations, to her and the sweet baby, and hubby, of course. What a Christmas presant they are getting, hugh? My husband’s birthday is December 29th, so he’s a Christmastime Baby, also.

Sooooo—ooo, as I was headed back home after Heath and I visited and had lunch with Jerry, Chance calls me from the nurse’s office at school…he’s been throwing up at school, and his hack sounds awful. So, I picked him up, and the 2 older spawn are both at home, under the weather. Yeah, Lara, like you, I very rarely ever wind up off my feet when I’m sick; I keep going. Right now, I’m just a little tired and wheezy. The ladies in the office of Chance’s school told me that a lot of kids are sick right now. You mentioned the weather being kind of dismal…yes, it’s cold and gray here, also. It’s also been really wet, until today. Like you guys mentioned about your vicinities, late Friday, Saturday, and Sunday are predicted to be a mixture of snow and freezing rain…very low temperatures. I don’t mind cold weather, as long as there isn’t also nonstop rain, too – that’s when it gets kind of miserable outside.

Take care everyone.

11 12 2008
Clo

Brice was due December 26th, so he was supposed to be an almost on Christmas day (and who knows, left up to his own devices, he might have shown up on Christmas.) But with her gestational diabetes, they didn’t want her baby to get too big, so they were going to induce her the week before Christmas if he didn’t show. Then she went to the doctor the other day for her weekly visit and protein showed up in her urine. She had to collect her urine for 24 hours (and keep it chilled, gross) and get blood drawn. They told her today that she had pre-eclampsia, and they’d be inducing her tomorrow at 8:30. I feel bad for her, cause while labor is usually unexpected… I know how it feels to suddenly be like “Oh yeah, your baby needs to come out now” especially when you’re thinking you’ll have at least another week. It’s crazy and exciting and nerve-wrecking and just so many emotions… I have a feeling they’ll be OK though, I just wish I coulda helped her out more.

And Janey, if you don’t want to go, don’t. But, I didn’t go to my Dad’s funeral… And I always kinda regretted it. And I mean, I know you probably don’t like seeing her like that but… Know that it’s not really here… She’s already gone. Funerals are really for the living. To have a chance to be with others in their grief and to say goodbye. Here’s a poem that really helped when a good friend died of AIDs. It’s by Mary Elizabeth Frye

Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there, I do not sleep
I am a thousand winds that blow
I am the diamond glints on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain.
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the morning’s hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there. I did not die.

There’s also a different version that goes:
Do not stand at my grave and weep,
I am not there, I do not sleep.
I am in a thousand winds that blow,
I am the softly falling snow.
I am the gentle showers of rain,
I am the fields of ripening grain.
I am in the morning hush,
I am in the graceful rush
Of beautiful birds in circling flight,
I am the starshine of the night.
I am in the flowers that bloom,
I am in a quiet room.
I am in the birds that sing,
I am in each lovely thing.
Do not stand at my grave and cry,
I am not there. I do not die.

12 12 2008
lara21167

Good morning ladies, Janey, How’d it go last night? Funerals are sooo hard. And I have been to some bad ones. And some beautiful ones. A friend of my husbands (Mike)’s wife died a few years ago, (lung cancer to all of us smokers!!) And Mike had a horse drawn carriage (2 white horses) take her casket from the church to the gravesite very nice. Her viewing the night before wasn’t so nice, her 11 year old son standing at her casket, his hand on her arm. When we walked up he looked at me and said “she’s sooo cold, feel her arm. She’s so cold” Poor kid, I was his age when my mother died, of the same thing. So I’ve always felt a bond with this young man. He and my son were best friends for years. Oh how did I get on that? Anyway Janey I hope all went well. Did you read your beautiful poem?

Witchy how are the spawn feeling? Mine seemed to be catching a cold this morning, not good since she has her first dance competition on Sunday.

12 12 2008
Janey

Cloey- that poem is beautiful!
needless to say it made me cry =]

Kaitlynns funneral was one of the hardest things i’ve ever had to go through,
except my niece’s funneral two years ago. i didnt really want to be there, but i felt that i had to be there. i had to say goodbye. i didnt want to go alone so Ezi went with me. even though i didnt go to Kevins funneral with him. i did read the poem, though. its was a very sad and tearful experience for me. afterwards, her parents asked her closest friends to come to their house. they let us in her room and asked if we wanted to sign her wall, sort of as our own way to say goodbye on a more private level. i wrote my poem and her wall, and i wrote some other things under it. it felt weird to us being there. thats where she commited suicide. i dont know how her parents can take all of this. her mom broke down when they were going to close the casket. it was the saddest thing i’ve ever seen. her sister was a mess. she kept saying how if she never went to live with their grandma she wouldve been able to stop kaitlynn. maybe even help her. she told Aubrey everything.

12 12 2008
Janey

joe hottie has a new post and its quite…interesting.

12 12 2008
lara21167

Janey I’m glad you read your poem. I really feel for her parents. I don’t think I could do it, they might as well just put me in a luney bin and throw away the key.

12 12 2008
Janey

yeah, thats what it kinda was like for my brother. he just moved away cause he hated it here after his daughter died. he walked around for months looking like a zombie or something and then when he and the baby’s mom broke up he left and he really hasnt come back since. he came actually came home for thanksgiving last year but it was only for a day. then he went back to Florida.

im sooooo exhausted. physically and emotionally.
i got sick again last night =[
i have to go get my car today. i cant believe i puked in it.
hope it doesnt happen again. my parents got it for me last year
as a graduation/birthday present, since my bday is two months after graduation. i got what i always wanted. a red convirtable sporty-looking car. (that i now have to pay for =[ ) it took me four years of being able to hold down a job and getting straight a’s for me to earn it. but i did it! yay! lol

12 12 2008
Clo

I always wanted one of those New Orleans funerals, that’s more like a party than a funeral. I just want my life to be celebrated… I already know exactly what I want my funeral to be like… With people laughing and telling their favorite stories, and it needs to be outside somewhere, perferably near water…. And I want people to come in their most comfortable clothing, not black, and when my ashes are spread, I want “dust in the wind” to play. One, because I think the song is soooo true, and second, cause I think it would be kinda funny/ironic, whatever.

My Mom is a hospice nurse. She has a really good view on death, and I like to take on her view. She works with the elderly, so it’s easier for her, cause they’ve lived their lives and a lot of them are ready to go. She says she never could work with kids hospice, but I dunno… I think I might be able too. Don’t get me wrong, it would be INCREDIBLY sad, but I like the thought of making someone’s last moments happier, and maybe a little bit easier for their families. And, like I said, my Mom passed on her view of death to me, which is… When it’s someone’s time, it’s their time. Regardless of age or health, or whatever. Questioning it won’t change it, and neither will fearing it. I’m not

I’m excited, my friend should be in labor right now, and I’m excited for her… But also a little jealous. I dunno, I questioned having any more kids for a second after Cayden was born… It was a little rough, I mean it always is, but being sick didn’t help things either… But it’s just so… I dunno. Some of you guys are Moms, or have babies, so I’m sure you know… It’s almost magical, as dumb as that sounds. When they first come out (and for some time after) you marvel at how big and little they are at the same time… And I see him grow and learn each day… I want to do that all over again. And sometimes it’s so hard to wait (how did you do it, Witchy? Your children have a big age gap). I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’m not going to go try to get pregnant tomorrow, it’ll be a little while, cause I’m too busy enjoying Cayden, and it’s hard enough learning to share my life with him, and putting him first, let alone doing that again, but… I still can’t wait, and I’m jealous that it’s just starting for some of my friends. Then again… I think of all that’s left to learn with Cayden, and I’m excited for that too.

I also heard from an old friend who I’m wondering if I should let back into my life. We used to live together (along with her ex fiance, wh paid all the bills, Lord knows why) and I paid her rent, which she was supposed to give to her ex to help with bills, which she always went and spent on herself… But would never buy things she needed, like shampoo or whatever, always used mine so I would run out… We had a falling out cause she called me selfish (while wearing clothes she borrowed from me, and she told me I was selfish using the cell phone I bought her and paid for, which she was only supposed to use for the free nights and weekends and ran up a 300 dollar cell phone bill and tried to pin in on me…) Anyway we’ve talked since, but it’s never been the same, just hi here and there and seeing each other once or twice. Anyway, her cousin emailed me the other day talking about how much she’s grown up, and how she’s going through a rough time cause her Dad is sick, and she was pregnant and lost her baby (which, this may sound horrible, but I’m not 100% sure I believe, because she always used to say she thought she was pregnant, and never was, but I mean I’m not going to call her out on that, cause if it’s true that’s horrible, and I’ll feel so bad for her…) And then she emailed me… I know she did lots of mean and selfish things in the past, but the thing is, I used to be a lot like that, and I changed, so I’m wondering if I should give her a second chance and see if she really has changed or not…

Anyway, let me know what you guys think about that, annnnnd I hope y’all have a good day!

12 12 2008
lara21167

Janey, Cloey did either of you get any ice? We just got rain. They showed Albany, NY on the Today show they really got hit hard. Wasn’t sure what part of NY you live Janey, but I was thinking about you.

12 12 2008
Janey

Lara- yes we got A LOT of snow and this morning the roads were frozen over so they canceled school today. i actually live about 25 minutes south of Albany. and its freaking freezing here =[

12 12 2008
Clo

no snow here…. maybe ice this morning, i’m not sure….

12 12 2008
lara21167

Cloey about your friend or ex friend rather. I’d give her a second chance. I believe anyone can change. Just don’t get too close too fast. She if she seems sorry for the way she treated you. That will be a good indication or whether or not she has really changed. If she tries to borrow money or something then you’ll know. Just be cautious.

Ok want to hear something funny at my expense. I think I mentioned by hubby has been out of work for almost 2 years. (btw, he may be starting a job in January back into the elevator trade he loves so much. Something that has always made me mad with him is he used to work as an elevator mechanic. Yea big money I know if you work for a union company. The nonunion companies-the ones he always worked for don’t pay near as much. Anyhoo this guy is going to need help sometime starting in January. He’s going to start him as a helper but shouldn’t take long before he moves him up to a mechanic-keep your fingers crossed) back to my story. Anyway we both smoke and I can’t afford cigarettes so he usually makes a few bucks through the week for cigs. Well yesterday we ran out so I was dieing for my lunch break so I could cash my check and get cigs. I also needed gas so I stopped at a gas station, pumped my gas and practically ran into the store to get my damn cigarettes. Only I didn’t lift my foot high enough to step on the curb, caught the toe of my boot and went sprawling on the sidewalk!! Damn cigarettes are evil!! I didn’t seem to hurt myself, but I’ll be sore tomorrow I’m sure. Oh and I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance!! NOT by switching to Geico, but by switching to some other carrier I never heard of. My agent has been dealing with them for 25 years so they’re legit. 1/2 of what I was paying Yay!! I’m excited!!

12 12 2008
Janey

Lara- you have no idea how much you have brightened my day with your story!!!
are you okay though? sounds like you took a pretty hard fall lol
and the isurance thing? hilarious! i do have to admit that i do have geico lol

12 12 2008
lara21167

Glad my clumsiness cheered you up. I do get very clumsy when I’m fenning (sp?) for a cigarette. Oh I’m fine getting too old to be falling down like that though. How are you feeling now?

12 12 2008
Clo

Lara- I’ll keep my fingers crossed for your husband about the job. And it’s funny/not funny about you falling, if you catch my drift. I hate falling. I always laugh, but I feel so dumb and wonder if anyone saw me.

I think you guys cursed me… I’m feeling sick now, lol. I’m hoping it either just cause I’m tired (we had a rough night last night, there’s a possibility he may be teething. He’s drooling a lot, fussy for no reason sometimes, and likes to put things in his mouth, but hey that’s also typical baby behavior as well. However, a friend of my husbands had to have her gall bladder out after she had her baby, and he started teething at 7 weeks, so we’re wondering if there’s a connection. Plus, he’s pretty much ahead on all his other milestones, so why not this one?) or if I am sick, it’s whatever my Mom had, cause it was pretty much a 24 hour thing.

12 12 2008
Janey

im goog, i think. i havent puked yet lol
i just went to pick up my car and got my nails done cause i was in need of a serious refill. and then i came home. its soooo cold =[ an my mom had her car parked in the back of the driveway by the trees and just as she was pulling out of it one of the braches fell. it missed her car by a few inches. i thought it was kinda funny. and it means that i will be parking my car AWAY from trees, branches, and anything that may fall and hurt my baby

12 12 2008
Janey

supposed to say good

12 12 2008
Janey

clo- i hope you feel better. it SUCKS being sick.

12 12 2008
Witchypoo

Good morning, Ladies…how’s it going? So much going on here, I don’t even know what to address. Janey, I’m glad, for your sake, that you went to your friend’s funeral. I’m sure it was also a comfort for her parents to see her closest friends there with them, also. Such a lonely feeling to experience loss like that. SweetLara, like you said about the looney bin and throwing away the key in similar circumstances…save a spot for me, girl. I’d rather die a thousand deaths than see anything like that happen. No question. Hmmm…all this talk about death and sadness is depressing me; time for me to make a conscious attitude adjustment.

Cloey…it’s IMPOSSIBLE for me to imagine you ever being truly mean or down-deep selfish. I mean, many people when they’re really young go through stages where they APPEAR to possess those qualities…but undeneath, in their heart-of-hearts, their true qualities are waiting to emerge. Regarding the friend who you’re wondering about allowing into your life again…maybe just take it really slow at first, giving yourself a chance to sense whether or not it would be worthwhile to engage with her again. I’ll bet you have a good sense of perception regarding human nature – and you probably know her well enough to judge whether she’s making a genuine effort to be a good friend. If you have the time and energy, it might be nice to give her a chance; I’m sure you won’t waste any time cutting her loose if she turns out to be the same old selfish personna you’re familiar with. After figuring out it was the real deal with Jerry, I quickly found that the more superficial, sometimes negative personalities around me were completely out-of-place; I didn’t have the resources, or desire, to deal with people who weren’t “true” friends. After we started having kids, the sense of being selective with our choices of friends became even more pronounced. There’s just not the seemingly unlimited time anymore to screw around with people who don’t “fit”, you know? Anyhoo…it sounds like you were a true friend to this person; it’ll be interesting to see if she realizes that now. Some people are just slow to grow up.

Yeah, Cloey…we waited a LONG time to decide to try for Heath. After the first two spawn, we found that Life got very hectic and much more complicated. Before we knew it, Beau and Chance were fully immersed in various activities/sports, and we were always running here and there. The schedule, (and our energy levels) only seemed to be able to stretch so far. But, as time passed on, when Beau was about 9 1/2, and Chance was 7, they started really openly expressing their desire for a baby brother or sister. It was really sweet, actually…and surprising to me that they’d be thinking along those lines. I have a girlfriend who has two little girls that I’d occasionally take care of, Kylie, (then about 2 years or so), and Becky, (about 9 months at the time). My boys would both dote on these little girls, (the girls behaved more like what you’d typically associate with “boy behavior”…wrestling, play-fighting, “rough-and-tumble” type of personalities, etc.); plus, the Kylie and Becky are both so affectionate and sweet…my boys just melted. I couldn’t believe how patient they both were, (especially in Beau’s case…who can be a bit indifferent and dismissive toward people/things he finds annoying); even when Becky would cry and demand to be held, (like most babies do at times), my boys would soothe her hold her, without getting exasperated. So…along with them, I had Jerry telling me that we weren’t getting any younger…wouldn’t it be nice to have one more beautiful baby, etc…so, eventually, my indecision was replaced by an enthusiastic intent to have one more child. It was funny, too, because I’d had conflicting feelings about having another baby for several years, and then, almost overnight…I just KNEW. Soooo–ooo, THAT’S how our Heathness came into our lives. It amazes me that even now, (after experiencing how demanding a little person can be), my boys STILL tell me it would be nice to have yet another baby. I mean, they really help out a lot with Heath…and sometimes he can be a real test to their patience – but they seem to see beyond all that. Three is enough for us, though. I mean, there’s been several times when I thought I might be pregnant, and if there was an “oopsie”, we’d welcome another little soul with open arm, and consider it a “meant-to-be”…but we don’t have any plans for more. Our hands are pretty full, right now.

One more thing, Cloey…(can you tell the subject of babies is close to my heart?): just try to enjoy each minute you and Jeremy have with Cayden. Living in the moment is the one thing you can do to truly enjoy Life. I definitely relate to your wistful observation that your baby is growing and changing so fast; sometimes you just want to experience that magical, (yes, MAGICAL), beginning with him…all the wonder and joy. These emotions will live on in your heart and memory, though; even as time inevitably marches on, bringing with it the accompanying changes – you’ll always have all that’s gone before in your consciousness. So…don’t fret, Sweetie – smile and enjoy.

Take care.

12 12 2008
Witchypoo

supposed to read, “plus, THE FACT THAT Kylie and Becky are both so affectionate and sweet,” blah, blah, blah…

12 12 2008
Witchypoo

Hmph…about a thousand typos in my comments, I see; my pet peeve.

12 12 2008
Clo

Janey- Totally does suck being sick. And I remember our big wind storm a few months ago… With branches falling all over the place. It’s funny yet scary at the same time.

Witchy- She called me selfish because… Well, I know we talked about this on the Joe Hottie site, but I dunno if you remember… I slept with a guy and found our later he had an STD (herpes) and didn’t tell me (his new girlfriend called and told me, that was a complicated situation. We tried to press charges, because in the city of Columbus it’s considered assault to knowingly have an STD and not inform your partner, but they told us we didn’t have enough evidence.) Anyway, we went to dinner at my Mom’s house, with my sister and brother there… And the way my family works, we tend to make jokes in inappropriate situations… As a coping mechanism, I guess. My sister started cracking jokes about me possibly having herpes (I hadn’t made it to the doctor yet.) and I got upset because, while that’s normal in my family, I wasn’t in the mood. My Mom took my sisters side and I got peeved and left, and Cindy (my friend) was there eating dinner with us and texted me to tell me that I was selfish for leaving… And I did kinda throw a fit rather than be like “hey, I’m scared and not in the mood for jokes, as well as embarassed by what happened.” But I still don’t know how that made me selfish… Maybe a spaz or over-reactor… I dunno. I tend to (or at least when I was younger) to stay friends with people I don’t really like in order to help them, or when I was younger for the drama… And she had lots of drama. And I just don’t have the time, effort, or want to deal with that drama anymore.

As far as babies… I mean, I know I want to spend every second right now with Cayden, enjoying him for everything he is, and everything he does… But I just know I want more. Badly. Again, not right now, but I do know I want more, cause it’s just…. So amazing…

Sorry to cut this short… Er… long… Whatever, but the aforementioned amazing baby is calling for his bottle.

12 12 2008
Janey

lol. you guys are funny.

12 12 2008
lara21167

Yes babies are amazing. Witchy my parents had my 2 sisters waited 13 years, had my brother and 3 years later had me. My mother was 42 when she had me. I’ll be 42 in February and I think she was nuts!! I just couldn’t imagine chasing around a toddler now. I just wouldn’t have the energy!! I’ll just wait for grandchildren i can spoil and send home to their parents, and secretly laugh knowing the kids are being brats for my kids. Hey pay backs are hell. My son was never too bad with grandma syndrome (my friends name for the way kids behave when come home from grandma’s) but my daughter is always awful still. And I have 2 great nephews to enjoy and 2 more on the way. Enough babies for me lol.

clo- Doesn’t sound like you were being selfish or a brat getting upset under those circumstances. And friends should stand beside you no matter what. Like Witchy and I said just take it slow and use your own good judgement with this girl.

12 12 2008
Janey

well i love babies and we def have A LOT of them in my family. i cant wait to have my own [actually i can; another four/five years]. i down want boys. At ALL. i’ll hang myself if i have boys. i want three little girls.
Ezi says he wants an Ezi Jr. hahahah. NO!

12 12 2008
lara21167

Oh Janey you will love what you get, between you and me, boys are easier!!

Have a great weekend everyone!!!

12 12 2008
Gabberjazz

Hey Ladies….
Wow everyone has alot going on. WOW… well I transfered to another prison which is a lower security than the one I was at so less violence…. My partner was mad at me for leaving but what can I do about that. I guess I made my decision because we crossed the line of our friendship…..our partnership and our trust for eachother… Ummm how do I put it.. I’m pregnant…. just a month along and I don’t know what I should do… It was one night that never should have happened. I haven’t told him yet I can actually say I am scared, Oh my…

12 12 2008
Janey

the best thing just happened to me!!!!
Derek [munchkin] is here!!!!!!!

13 12 2008
Janey

Gabber-WOW!!! i was wondering where you were.
i think that you shouldnt make this desicion by yourself.
i think you should talk to him and see you both think.
i dont believe in abortion so i gues i wouldnt be much help there.
do you think that maybe this ahppened because you and your partner are supposed to be together?

13 12 2008
Janey

WHERE’S MT????

13 12 2008
Clo

Janey- I thought I wanted all girls too, but now that I have Cayden… I really wouldn’t trade him. He’s just… what he’s supposed to be and I love him so much, I couldn’t him being anything else, if that makes sense.

Gabber, you should just tell him. And maybe it is a sign that you should be together.

I haven’t heard anything from Natalie yet. I’m a little worried cause she went in at 8:30 this morning to be induced… I know first time births can last awhile, but I don’t see them letting it, because she was already 4 cm, and all her health problems, I would assume it wouldn’t be good to have a long lbor but… They could just be waiting until tomorrow to let everyone know how it went. I’m sure they have other things on their mind too, rather than texting a whole bunch of people, lol. I was just really hoping to be able to see her and the baby tomorrow, because if she has a natural birth they’ll only be in the hospital for 2 days, and I won’t be able to go see her Sunday. Oh well. 🙂

13 12 2008
Witchypoo

Yup, Cloey…just like Lara said – a real friend will back you up in just about any circumstances, (short of supporting something really stupid, self-destructive, etc.); even if your pal really did think that you were “over-reacting”…or being a “spaz” or whatever – doesn’t matter. She should have supported you – at least publicly, (sometimes part of being a good friend is having the spine to be honest with someone you really care about…enough to piss him/her off if that’s what it takes to say what needs to be said). However, that conversation/exchange should be just between the two of you…private, rather than a critique in front of your whole family, or whoever else happens to be around. It completely goes against my nature to have my private problems/emotions paraded around in front of people against my wishes; that’s a big no-no for me, and I don’t know how readily I’d overlook something like that in a friend. LOYALTY is #1 in my priorities for close connections…anything less is completely useless to me. Anyhoo…it doesn’t sound like you were being unreasonable to get upset about being teased with the std thing anyway…it’s not really that funny, (especially when the subject of humor is me, myself, & I…putting myself in your place, I mean). I can laught at myself in most situations, but I don’t think I’d be giggling too much if I was fretting about possibly having an std – I’d be peeing my panties.

Gabber, wow….didn’t see THAT one coming. Hmmm…you must be feeling the pressure right now. How did you two, (your partner and you), come to the conclusion that “it shouldn’t have happened?”, (if you don’t mind me asking questions, I mean). Is he still with his fiance’? Are you aware of the nature of his true feelings for her? That might be tricky to judge, since HE might not even have a complete handle on his emotions/thoughts about all this. I know if I were in that woman’s shoes, (doesn’t she also have a baby with him, if I remember correctly?), I sure wouldn’t want to be walking down the aisle with a man who couldn’t seem to stay faithful to me. Complicated situation – to say the least. In your place, I’d probably tell him about the pregnancy…for a lot of reasons. Specifically, he has a right and a responsibility to know, and to help you deal with, this surprising turn of events, regardless of how you choose to cope with it. These are just my opinions, but it’s hard to analyze a situation that I only have a sketchy understanding of, (obviously). I hope you can deal with all this without too much stress weighing you down; these circumstances sound really complex. If you need to get things off your mind…you know where we are, Gabber.

Take care, and nightie-night Girls.

13 12 2008
Witchypoo

P.S…Cloey, sending your friend, her baby, and her husband positive vibrations and thoughts. Hopefully, everything went smoothly with the birth, and she and her husband are busy enjoying this special time.

Take care.

13 12 2008
Witchypoo

Oh, yeah…one more thing: I talked to Jerry about trying to post some pictures on Lara’s myspace, like she suggested. Surprisingly, he was receptive to the idea, (a big surprise, actually…since he’s not real enthusiastic about divulging a lot of information/personal details to most people). So, as soon as we’re not running here and there, we’ll see if we can get some pictures to Lara’s site.

13 12 2008
Janey

so there was an “ice” storm yesturday and now 250,000 people in upstate new york have no power and theyre saying its going to take days for them to fix it. i think the trees look so cuet though. thy are ALL covered in ice and i dont know why i think they look beautiful. i took like a hundred pix already lol

13 12 2008
Witchypoo

Yup, Janey…the beauty of nature – breathtaking and awe-inspiring. Btw…happy Saturday, Sweetie.

13 12 2008
Janey

Today is the day that my baby boy is going to get put in a rocketship and have a first class ticket to the moon. reasons why:

1. i was attempting to straighten my hair. couldnt do it because he wanted me to go upstairs and watch cartoons with him.

2. he wanted have a ‘swordfight’ so we did. afterwards was naptime. no such luck.

3. is following around and refuses to take a nap.

im sick and he’s sick and i feel like were just trading germs. i think I need a nap =[

13 12 2008
Clo

Natalie is OK, I saw the beautiful baby today, unfortunately we came at the worst time ever, lol, they were moving her and tons of visitors showed up at the same time… So we didn’t stay long and I didn’t get to hold him. If they stay tomorrow, we’re going to go back, if not, then we’re going to take them dinner one night. He was born at 10:01, was 7 lbs 2.5 oz and 19 inches, and just soooo tiny. Natalie’s good, she looked tired as hell though, poor thing. I’m uber excited for her!

14 12 2008
Janey

munchkin managed to leave without making it to the moon lol

Ezi and i have a problem.
remember how i got a shit and my doctor said no sex for THREE MONTHS?

14 12 2008
Janey

sorry i dont know what i hit. it posted before i was done.
also thats supposed to say SHOT. not shit.

so yea. thats our problem. and i mean i guess i shouldnt complain
about something so meaningless as this but- its really turning into a
big deal. we’re fighting about it. i think we’re just frustrated cause we both really want to and we both know we cant. forbidden fruit, temptation its all
set out out to haunt me. =[ its hasnt even been a month. its been ALMOST THREE WEEKS. i cant taked two and a half more months of this. and hes pretty pissed. at first we thought it was funny. now? not so much.

14 12 2008
Janey

Clo-so happy that your friend and her baby are okay.

14 12 2008
Clo

Sex is a big deal, it can be rough when you know you can’t have it. Jeremy’s and my sex life has been crazy, because we haven’t been able to have it, either because I was bleeding (right after the baby) or I was sick, or we had the baby and he cried or whatever. I would say it’s been at least 3 weeks for us, if not longer. I just don’t really feel like doing it, so it’s a lot easier on me than it is for J, but he doesn’t really fight with me about it, so I guess I’m lucky.

Ezi is kinda being a jerk, though, if he’s trying to pressure you. Theres a valid, legit, medical reason why you can’t have sex, and if he cared about your safety, and didn’t want to put his possible child at risk… Then he’d back off. I mean, yeah he’s probably talking about using condoms and such but.. My brother was born while my Mom was on the diaphram, I was born while my Mom was using birth control, it’s unlikely to happen, but there is a risk, and he shouldn’t want to take that risk. Especially when there are other things you can do to satisfy each other.

14 12 2008
Clo

OK, Moms, I need some advice. Lately Cayden has been drooling a lot, fussy for no apparent reason (not hungry, wet, ect.) starting this weekend he’s had some diarreah, tonight he’s running a low grade fever, he’s flushed and keeps running his tongue over his bottom gum.

I’ve called our ped just to be on the safe side and they say as long as he’s eating and having wet diapers, and his fever doesn’t get any higher, he should be OK. So basically just to watch him.

My question is, do you think he might be teething? I mean I know it’s on the early side, and the on call doc said that teething has no symptoms, but I disagree. Every child I’ve ever worked with during the teething stage has always gotten a fever, some of them have gotten a fever and diarreah, fever and runny nose… I was just wondering what you guys thought.

15 12 2008
Witchypoo

Hi, Ladies. How’s it going? We got back from our niece’s wedding a little while ago. It went nicely…not a whole lot to report. I like seeing all my guys dressed up…Heath was adorable in his little suit, (complete with clip-on tie, which for some reason Chance found hilarious).

Cloey…yeah, it sure does sound like Cayden is teething. All those symptoms fit, (I don’t know what that on-call doctor was talking about: teething doesn’t have any symptoms? Maybe not in some cases, but my kids each had all or most of the symptoms you described while teething – especially in the initial stages). Heath started the beginning stages of teething at about 2 months, also…maybe even a week or so earlier than that. I thought it was really early, also – and maybe unusual. However, talking to other moms I knew, I found that it wasn’t that uncommon at all. Try rubbing and pressing down somewhat on his gums where it seems to be bothering him the most; “massaging” the gums seemed to help my little guys somewhat.

It’s really cold here…last night it snowed, and the temperatures have stayed low enough to keep it around – along with icy roads. It’s also really windy; I was freezing my butt off getting into the wedding, and then back out and home. I don’t usually wear nylons, but it was so cold I was going to…until I tore a huge rip in them getting ready. So, yeah…bare legs in 20-something degree weather, (my long dress was whipping around in the wind, so there wasn’t any protection there…plus, there’s a long slit up the back, anyway. Brrrrrrr….rrr! It feels so nice to be home. Last night we bought ‘A Christmas Carol’…the 1951 version that I used to watch as a kid, plus this set includes the original 1936 version…also one in restored black & white, and a colorized copy, too. Pretty cool…I LOVE that movie. Charles Dickens wrote such touching classics…I have quite a few in book form; I don’t ever get tired of rereading them.

I’m sleepy. Take care, Girls.

15 12 2008
Janey

Clo- its actually a mixed thing. sometimes we fight cause he wants to and i say no cause i know i cant but sometimes i want to and he says no and then i get madd and he leaves and right now im just really really tired and i want to go to sleep but im not sleepy. =[ i was babysitting my friends baby tiday. she’s three months old. she’s sooo cute but she cries like there is no tomorrow. i actually did pretty good. OH- and then she was poop so i was going to change her diaper thinking she was done. yea, turns out she wasnt and she farted while pooping and the poop got on me and i can say tht its THE grossest thing that has ever happened to me!!!

BTW, the weirdest thing happened to me last night. i was at Ezi’s place and i decided to go to bed early. i didnt really like the movie we were watching. so i got into bed and then i just, i started crying. and i had no idea why. and the more i wanted to stop the more i cried. and Ezi came in the room and he was freaked out. he asked if it was because of Kaitlynn but it wasnt. he kept asking me about possible things that might be wrong. but nothing was wrong. i guess i just needed to cry. anyways, now he thinks im depressed and is constantly asking me if im okay or want to talk to him about anything.
idk, i’ve been a little sentimental lately.

15 12 2008
lara21167

Good morning everyone!!

Such busy weekends. Cloey yes Cayden is teething and doctors will never recognize that there are teething symptoms. Any mother will tell you there are, but since doctors can’t find a scientific reason for it they will not recognize it. And I am so glad your friend and new baby are doing well.

Janey 3 words Oral, Oral, Oral haha. About the crying, you have been through alot lately, yes you just needed to cry and let it all out.

Witchy glad the wedding went well, btw got our tree Saturday it’s 6 feet but a bit skinny, fits perfect in our little apartment. Oh and I put a folder in the pictures on my myspace titled Witchypoo and set everything to private. So feel free.

My daughter hip hop dance team took 1st place at comp yesterday, no surprise since it was a small competition with only local cheer teams and no one else had a youth hip hop team there lol. But they really did good and I think they’d have had a good chance of taking first even if they did have some competition. THe lady that choreographed their routine was there. She is a remarkable young woman. She is a Senior in college and just won an award in NYC for her “Hood Hop” mobile dance “studio” she does. In the summer she drives to different low income housing developments and teaches any kids interested hip hop dance. Then at the end of the summer they put on a little show or competition. WIth the award she won she is also receiving a $10,000 grant so when she graduates college she can start a dance school. Really cool.

Ok Gabber, I saved you for last. Oh boy. I am normally a romantic. But I’m looking at your romantic encounter with your partner more realistically. I mean you were both involved in a life and death situation (btw soooo glad you transferred to a safer prison!!) and you saved his life!! THat will bring 2 people closer together. And I think that is where your “feelings” for each other came from. Since you think it was a misstake I’d say you agree with me. So like everyone else said you need to tell him. No matter what you decide to do, and somehow I think you will keep the baby. He needs to know. And it is his problem to explain the situation to his fiance. I think he needs to seriously think before he marries this woman anyway, if she’ll still have him after this. We are hear for you, and let us know how it goes. Take care.

15 12 2008
lara21167

Good morning everyone!!

Such busy weekends. Cloey yes Cayden is teething and doctors will never recognize that there are teething symptoms. Any mother will tell you there are, but since doctors can’t find a scientific reason for it they will not recognize it. And I am so glad your friend and new baby are doing well.

Janey 3 words Oral, Oral, Oral haha. About the crying, you have been through alot lately, yes you just needed to cry and let it all out.

Witchy glad the wedding went well, btw got our tree Saturday it’s 6 feet but a bit skinny, fits perfect in our little apartment. Oh and I put a folder in the pictures on my myspace titled Witchypoo and set everything to private. So feel free.

My daughter hip hop dance team took 1st place at comp yesterday, no surprise since it was a small competition with only local cheer teams and no one else had a youth hip hop team there lol. But they really did good and I think they’d have had a good chance of taking first even if they did have some competition. THe lady that choreographed their routine was there. She is a remarkable young woman. She is a Senior in college and just won an award in NYC for her “Hood Hop” mobile dance “studio” she does. In the summer she drives to different low income housing developments and teaches any kids interested hip hop dance. Then at the end of the summer they put on a little show or competition. WIth the award she won she is also receiving a $10,000 grant so when she graduates college she can start a dance school. Really cool.

Ok Gabber, I saved you for last. Oh boy. I am normally a romantic. But I’m looking at your romantic encounter with your partner more realistically. I mean you were both involved in a life and death situation (btw soooo glad you transferred to a safer prison!!) and you saved his life!! THat will bring 2 people closer together. And I think that is where your “feelings” for each other came from. Since you think it was a misstake I’d say you agree with me. So like everyone else said you need to tell him. No matter what you decide to do, and somehow I think you will keep the baby. He needs to know. And it is his problem to explain the situation to his fiance. I think he needs to seriously think before he marries this woman anyway, if she’ll still have him after this. We are hear for you, and let us know how it goes. Take care.

15 12 2008
lara21167

Who in the Hell was that Lickit person on the Hottie site, and why does that site bring out people liek that!! Nice comments back all of you. Rowdy you are hilarious with your comments. I just wanted to say this to you guys and not everyone since it was implied that she was a lesbian, Just think about it user name “lickit” and the comment about sucking dick!! Think ya’ll hit the nail on the head!!

15 12 2008
Gabberjazz

Hey Everyone thanks for all the support . You ladies are great:) I haven’t told him yet but I am going to keep the baby as I do not believe in abortion. But he has told me a big change in his life.. He told his girlfriend that he cheated but didn’t say it was me they are going to work through it as they have an 8 week old baby girl and she is a month along again on their second child so ya our babies will be a month apart. wow what a mess I am in. The new prison is ok I am on desk duty so no interaction with any prisoner for the rest of the time before mat leave. Lots of time to think! so I can be switched between the prison where I was and this one for the job I have now. I guess if I don’t tell him he will find out soon enough!

15 12 2008
lara21167

Damn Gabber that is tough. And he must have potent sperm lol. Little joke to lighten the mood. It’s going to be harder for her to forgive knowing your pregnant too. But he can use the excuse like I said about your saving his life and all. It kind of makes it more understandable I think. Yes you have a hard road ahead, but everything happens for a reason and you will have another beautiful baby. Just keep thinking that.

15 12 2008
Gabberjazz

Lara
tell me about it… The thing I am thinking is this was meant to happen as the tricky thing is mt tubes are clampped. So I wasn’t supposed to get pregnant at all. This is what has me thinking. 99.5 percent thats what they said when I got it done fuck that .5 percent lol Its meant to be and now I just have to make room for my new litle one.

15 12 2008
Clo

Yeah, I was reading articles, and there’s actually a doctor who does think that teething causes symptoms, but most doctors don’t (the doc who does thinks that the extra saliva that comes with teething ends up in the stomach, irritating it and causes diarreah, and that the inflamation of the gums causes fever.)

Sorry, baby was sleeping, now he’s awake sooo, I’ll respond to all you guys later!

15 12 2008
lara21167

OMG!! I’d say it’s meant to be. How do you think your girls will take the news?

15 12 2008
lara21167

Cloey that is interesting she all of us mothers knew and the damn doctors have to research and research to find the connection.

15 12 2008
lara21167

supposed to say “see all of us mothers”

15 12 2008
Witchypoo

Good morning, Ladies…happy Monday. Wow, Gabber: tubes clamped and you STILL got pregnant?! I’ll bet you were more than a little surprised, hugh? I think in your place, (which is hard to even imagine…since your circumstances are so different than mine – but, still…), I’d probably wind up viewing this extraordinary turn of events as a really special Christmas presant. You must be meant to cradle that little soul for eternity, you know? That’s how I view it, anyway. Hopefully, you’re not coming apart at the seams trying to deal with all this; you strike me as being pretty competent – more than capable of handling the personal details of your life. Just check in whenever you need an “ear”, Gabber.

Yup, Cloey…I’m convinced that the extra saliva DOES cause the diarrhea; saliva has a lot of acids in it…that’s why when a lot of toddlers drool down their chins, they often get a rash around the area. Doctors…how about a little common sense, right? My pediatrician, (a very sweet, capable, and intelligent lady who’s so good with my kids – I love her), has always said that teething produces symptoms like we’re talking about.

Lara…that’s so cool about your daughter’s cheer team taking 1st place in the competition – did you get lots of pictures? Dance is so much fun.

Janey…how are you feeling today? Are you and Ezi getting along better? Yeah, men can get pretty testy when they want sex and can’t have it – especially if there’s going to be a long wait. Cranky!

Take care, Ladies

15 12 2008
Clo

OK, lol, sometimes I get overwhelmed when there’s tons of comments, lol which is kinda funny cause I make so many comments, so if you guys are the same way, I must drive you nuts!

Lara, I dunno how you come back and address everyone. I’m always afraid I’ll forget someone and they’ll get mad or think I did it on purpose. I’m such a weirdo.

Gabber, I’m excited for you, lol. I think I just need to live through others for awhile, cause I want another baby. I know I can’t handle another one right now, but I know I want more, so that makes it hard. My mom says I have issues with instant gratification, and she’s so right, lol. I think we’ve decided to wait until Cayden’s a year old, and then start trying. I mean in a way, that’s super soon, and some people might say too soon, but… My brother and sister and I are super close in age, my brother isn’t even a full year younger than my sister… And I really like that, it’s like built in friends. But keep us updated on anything, and I’m sure I speak for everyone when we say we’ll help in any way possible! And I’m with Witchy. If for some reason Jeremy and I were to get pregnant right now (I started my birth control, and we’re still using Condoms until I’ve been on it for a little while.) then I would just know that it was meant to happen.

Lara- Congrats to your daughter! She just sounds so talented, you must be really proud! And the mobile dance studio sounds awesome. I wish I could dance, lol. Not enough patience or talent.

Witchy- I bet Heath looked so adorable! There’s something about little boys dressed up like big boys… It so cute. It’s one of the things I look foreward too, I can’t wait to stick Cayden in a suit, lol!

Weather here has been weird, but it’s Ohio, so that’s normal. (can it be normal that somethings weird?) Yesterday it felt like spring, was pretty warm and then it started raining… Today I haven’t been outside, but it’s kinda chilly. South of Ohio is getting an ice storm warning, but I dunno if it’s going to hit us or not, they didn’t list our county in the warning, so who knows?

As far as the teething thing, I love our ped too, and I haven’t spoke to her about her views on teething, so I dunno. But the on call doc was like, no way, he’s sick, teething has no symptoms. I’m like, whatever. I do think Cayden was teething, cause he’s 100% fine today, and his teething symptoms always pick up in the evening for some reason… I think he’s going to roll over sometime here soon. He’s scooting a little and starting to rock side to side, so we’ll see.

Here’s another question for you Mom’s… When did you guys get your periods back? I still haven’t gotten mine. I know I’m not pregnant, they had to give me a pregnancy test when I got my gall bladder out and it was negative, so while I figured I wouldn’t be, it’s nice to know for sure. I breast fed for the first mouth (or pumped, rather, same diff.) so I know that can throw things off… But it’s been almost 3 months and nada. My period was pretty regular before, so should I just keep waiting or should I call my doc? I’m wondering if the stress of all the surgeries threw things off as well.

15 12 2008
MonkeySpeaks

So – its officially over with the guy. I mean its over. He doesnt want to be in a relationship with me – “im a great girl” but he doesn’t see it happening. He says he wants to be there for me when I get to LA and he wants to be friends, he says he sees us being really great friends but he just doesn’t feel the same way i do about him and it cant go on because he hasn’t been happy for a while.

im pretty broken up so i dunno… with packing and the wedding and now this. i’ll try and pop on but im just….

miserable right now.

15 12 2008
Janey

hey guys.

Gabber- WOW! i think this def supposed to happen. i believe kids choose their parents and this one def chose you. do you think if you tell you partner about the baby, he’ll take responsibility? i dont think his fiance will be quick to forgive him when she learns that you are preggo too. how do you think yo girls will take it? im super happy for you by the way!!!! keep us updated when you can and sorry about the million questions lol

witchy & lara- yea im feelin better. Ezi asked if we could please stop arguing over stupid things because it was a waste of time. i agreed so we stopped fighting. it was actually sweet. last night before i fell asleep he looked at me and smiled and i asked him what was so funny. he kissed me and told me he loved me and then went to sleep. i thought it was cute. =]

Clo- after my miscarrige i didnt get my period for a month and a half.
i dont know if it’d be the same thing or not. i know my sister did get hers for almost four months after my niece was born.

Lara- thats great about your daughter! like clo said, she sound like she’s really talented. you must be proud of her!

15 12 2008
Janey

Rowdy- im so sorry. maybe this could be a good thing. i know right it doesnt seem that way. but somethings are meant to be and somethings arent. maybe you should use this time to focus on you and persuing what you want in life. we’re here when you want to vent. hope youre okay =]

15 12 2008
Gabberjazz

Rowdy:

I am so sorry you are feeling like this!! I wish I was there to give you a great big hug and just listen to what you are feeling. I know its easier said than done but maybe like me this is your chance to start new . A single woman in LA might just be more fun than you will ever know. I will be thinking of you lots

Take care hun!

15 12 2008
lara21167

Cloey I’m not sure I remember, the period thing, do you know how long it’s been since I even had a period? (partial hysterectomy remember) And it is sooooo great not to have to worry about it yay! OH back to your question, with my son I breast feed till he was about 10 months. And it was like at month 9 I think, before the lovely period came back. WIth my daughter, I don’t know maybe 2 months. Couldn’t have been long enough to be a concern. If I were you I’d wait another month before getting concerned. And like you said with the surgeries your body is prob a little messed up on that sort of thing. Oh btw, got a computer over the weekend, well a friend of my hubby’s gave it to us. I don’t have internet yet, but I did order it through Verizon so soon…

15 12 2008
lara21167

Oh Rowdy, I am soooo sorry. I did not see that coming at all. And I’m sure you didn’t. I don’t even know what to say. Got a few choice words for the guy but… Well I know you are not ready to hear it, but I’m kind of with Gabber, Young and single in LA!! Sounds kind of fun…..

Take care and you know where we are if you need us.

15 12 2008
Gabberjazz

Clo

Do you still breast feed that is the key to the period coming back if you don’t breast feed it returns sooner than if you do like wise breast feeding acts as a birth contol nothing is 100% remember I found that out the hard way lol.

15 12 2008
Janey

does anybody have any idea wht one gives to a 19 year old male for christmas???
i cant find anything to get Ezi for christmas and its driving me crazy!! i’ve listened to him closely for sny hint, hell i even flat out asked him what he want and he said he didnt know. he’s weird about clothes so i dont want to get him any. plus i got him like a million outfits for his bday. um…electronics. he’s got an iPod, iPhone, gps system, laptop, nd a palm pilot. so what to get him?
he’s so hard to shop for =[

im easy. all i want are these two books ive been dying to read and a new pair of sneakers =]

15 12 2008
Clo

Gabber, I only breastfed for a month, cause Cayden wouldn’t take it from me (because I was sick they gave him the bottle first, and so then he was used to getting it fast and did not want to wait) so then I was pumping but with all the surgeries, meds, and everything else, (plus not feeling good, I felt like I was always pumping, feeding him, changing a diaper… yada yada) I quit. So I haven’t breast fed in about 2 months? My milk has finally dried up (it wasn’t painful but I would randomly leak there for awhile) And again, I’m not pregnant, because Jeremy and I haven’t had sex since before the surgery and they gave me a test in the hospital because of procedure. I know nothing’s 100%, even breastfeeding Moms can get pregnant (although it’s much less likely) but I really highly doubt I’m pregnant. I’m just hoping somethings not wrong, but I’ll wait a little while longer before I spaz, lol.

Rowdy- I’m so sorry. I can’t say anything other than that, cause I think anything else I say (if it’s meant to be, the dum dum will realize it and come back! You’re really wonderful, and though it may be hard to believe, he’s totally stupid for doing this) you already know, and none of it really helps anyway. We’re here for you, please know that.

15 12 2008
Clo

Janey, does he like/have any video game systems? Get him a wii, I love our wii. If he already has it then… Is he into Jewelry at all? I’m super bad with gift ideas. If I had money I’d either get Jeremy a GPS which he’s wanted for awhile, or more wii-motes.

16 12 2008
Janey

clo- he has one of those. he has a PS1 and 2 and 3. i think im going to get him a new pair of kicks.i saw him eyeing these really nice jordans. i dont know. i hate having to guess at what he wants. its annoying. and of course, he never knows what he wants either =[

16 12 2008
Clo

I love our wii, love love LOVE it, we have wii fit which I plan to start working out with as soon as I get the OK to be allowed to work out, and we have rock band for wii, which kicks ass. I never know what I want either. Lately I want clothes really badly, cause I don’t really have any that fit me, and I’m so tired of looking junky, but I’m SUPER picky about my clothes. Style, fit, material (I have sensitive skin, so I can’t stand wearing certain things, like you’ll hardly ever find me in a sweater unless it’s SUPER duper soft) It’s hard cause my mom HATES giving gift cards as gifts, so she prefers to just buy me clothes, and 90% of the time I don’t wear them cause I don’t like the fit or feel.

16 12 2008
Janey

funny, i was playing guitar hero and i HATE THAT DAMN THING!!! i dont get it. its just not fun,cute,c ool or entertaining. but my twit of a bf thinks its the best thing tht ever happened. WHAT? i like playing tennis with the wii. i kick his ass on tht one all the time =] but other than tht i dont like video games. i like real sports. Dancing, Volley ball, basketball, soccer, flag football. i LOVED playing those sports in high school. i love spring and summer cause we’ll go down to the field at the high school and we’ll have these huge games. him and his friends against me and my friends. we get pretty competitive. he hates playing volley ball with me cause im REALLY good at it and its the best sport to get competitive. he says im a beast on the volleyball court lol

im really picky too, when it comes to clothes. only my sister and my best friend know what i like and stuff. Ezi usually consults with them before he buys me anything. its so funny cause last year my best friend was dying for this necklace and he bf asked me if i new what she wanted and i told him and he got it. and i wanted this really cute ring that has a spot for two stones and it has this & in the middle between the stones. and the stones is my birth stone and his birth stone. and when he asked Juiicy [my best friend] what i wanted she told him and he got it. we saw each other like two days b4 xmas and we both said at the same time :i know what youre getting for christmas” it was kinda funny

16 12 2008
lara21167

Janey I can’t help you on what to get your bf, my son is 17 and all I give him is money, that’s all he’ll ever say he wants!! And I wouldn’t dare try to buy him clothes, I know I wouldn’t get the right things. Soooo Money it is. The only one I really buy for anymore is my daughter, who wants a ton. My 2 great nephews. and the hubby, which I don’t get him much. THat;s it. I’ll get my boss a little something and the other girls in the office and my mother in law, I’ll leave up to my daughter. She used to give away the gifts I bought her sometimes back to us!! I decided I didn’t have the money to spend on someone who didn’t appreciate it. My brother and my sisters we stopped exchanging a long time ago. My nieces and nephews there are only 2 i’d care to buy for. My one sister’s kids don’t want anything to do with us so I don’t care to buy for them. I mean they can’t take 1 day out of a whole year to spend with family. So I decided just to get the little ones. And there are only 2 right now. 2 more on the way though 🙂

16 12 2008
Clo

Janey- I hate guitar hero, that’s why we got rock band, cause I love playing with the drums. People say the guitar is easier, and I totally suck at the drums, but it’s almost like I’m really playing. As far as real sports, that’s why you should try the wii fit, that thing is awesome. You can jog on it, do yoga, and a bunch of other things. You can even set up a fitness regime, and it’ll keep track of your weight loss and how often you work out. It’s sweet. I haven’t gotten a chance to play it yet, cause when we got it I was pregnant and not advised to start a new work out plan, and then I had all the surgeries and wasn’t allowed to exercise….

Lara- I buy for my cousin, my Mom, my sister and brother… Last year I went in with Jeremy’s parents and got him the wii. This year we bought the rock band so we’re not getting each other presents (I have a feeling he may ignore that, and if he does, I’ma be pissed, cause since I’m not working I don’t have any of my own money.) I also help Jeremy pick out his parent’s gifts, and I may buy my friend something, cause she sounds like she’s going to get us something and I feel like I have too. Oh, and this year we got Cayden some stuff as well.

We lost power last night. It suuuuucked and got sooo cold. We don’t know what happened, we think someone hit a generator, cause we heard a loud boom and a couple minutes later there were a bunch of sirens and a police helicopter… I didn’t hear anything about it on the news this morning (6 AM bottle feeding, I like it only cause I can watch the news) but… The sirens might have had nothing to do with the generator blowing. Police/fire tend to over react here. For example, my neighbors bathroom caught on fire. They sent two fire trucks, search and rescue, a squad, the fire chief, and police. It was crazy. It was just a tiny little fire. We obviously got it back this morning.

I dunno if it’s the morning the crazies mess with me on the internet or what. I dunno if I told you guys about the girl who was using my brother? Would sleep with him, tried to move into my Moms house, ignored my mothers rules that she wasn’t allowed over when Mom wasn’t home, let my brother move out with her when her mom kicked her out, let my brother pay for everything, and then kissed another guy at a party my brother was at (a guy who she met that night?) She freaking tried to friend me on myspace. I know it’s lame an immature, but I’m like, where do you get off? I didn’t like you when you were fucking with my brother, what makes you think I’m going to like you after you screwed him over? Then the creepy guy from halloween (who called my sister repeatedly, after I told him not to do that, then tried to blame my sister) IMed me, asking if my sister was still single and looking. I’m like dude, you’re hella creepy, leave. us. alone.

Finally, a little update on my friend (the one I asked you guys if I should be friends with?) I was honest with her, told her I wasn’t into the drama anymore, and that my family and especially my son came before everyone else. She said she understood and wanted to still be friends, as long as we really stayed friends this time. I was like, whatever OK. So far it’s been me contacting her all the time. Yesterday she was supposed to come over, I told her to call before she came because Sunday when we made plans Cayden was acting sick, and I wasn’t sure if we’d have to take him to the ped. Anyway, I waited all day, and she didn’t call. So I go to her myspace to send her a message like, why didn’t you call? And saw she wrote a blog talking about how she went Christmas shopping. So I sent the message like “why didn’t you call?” and she wrote me back saying she got stuck at work, she was headed to a christmas party and would text me when she was done. Well, first she didn’t get stuck at work, she went Christmas shopping. Which is fine, you gotta do what you gotta do, but the least she could have done was called and let me know that she had to do something else, and she most certainly shouldn’t have lied to me, ESPECIALLY after she posted a blog about it (if there’s one thing I hate more than a liar, it’s a bad liar.) And on top of that, she never texted me after the party. I’m like whatever, if I can make the effort when I have a newborn (which, technically he’ll only be a newborn for another week, and then he’s an infant, awww so sad!) then you should too.

And that’s my petty drama for today, lol. 🙂 How are you guys?

16 12 2008
lara21167

Cloey tread carefully with this friend, sounds like she’s still a bit selfish. In fact if I were you I wouldn’t even bother at this point. It’s up to her to contact you. We must be getting your weather. It was 60 degrees yesterday, now it’s snowing!! It’s not sticking yet but if it gets any colder… Tonight is our Christmas Party at Cheerleading so it sucks that it’s snowing. My car sucks in the snow. I look forward to the cheerleading Christmas Party, we all bring a covered dish, the girls already exchanged names and do a secret Santa and they play games and us parents can talk… What is up with that guy, he must be desperate. Maybe you should tell him your sister met her soulmate and they ran off and got married. Either that or she took a trip to the moon and you don’t know when she’ll be back lol. Your brothers ex has some nerve. Probably wants to get back with him and is tring to use you to do it.

How is everyone else. Rowdy how are you feeling?

16 12 2008
Clo

Oh, I’m not contacting her again. And if she says something about me not getting in touch with her I’m just going to tell her I was still waiting on that text. Plus she made me kinda mad cause when she said she was coming over she said “I’m coming to see you and MY baby” and I’m like… WTF? I know it’s such a small thing, but she’s never even seen him before… My own mother wouldn’t call him her child, and he’s much closer to being hers than Cindy’s…

I want to go to a Christmas party. Jeremy’s work canceled his. We’re supposed to get some huge snow storm, but it was supposed to hit last night, so now they’re saying tonight… Who knows? It is hella cold though.

16 12 2008
lara21167

It’s not too cold here. The snow is starting to stick to the cars though. Getting worried… Just checked out your Santa Pics. Soooo cute and he is getting sooo big. Just have to tell you this. It’s funny since both our names are Laura. And you have a flakey friend named Cindy. I have a flakey friend named Cindy!! Well in High School. I did see her in October, we exchanged numbers. I decided not to make the first move and call her. But I feel bad because when I saw her her husband obvoiusly beat her up, she had black eyes and bruices on her arms. But she is alot of work as a friend and she hasn’t contacted me. So I don’t know.

16 12 2008
Clo

Laura we’re twins! Maybe my next baby will be a girl like yours! And yes, Cayden is a monster. He’s my little beefcake. It’s hard to believe he’s almost 3 months old!

16 12 2008
lara21167

And our weather seems to be copying each other. Of course Maryland and Ohio aren’t that far apart. Yes they grow soooo fast. And once they get to school, well time just zooms….

16 12 2008
Clo

Time is already zooming. I think he’s hitting another growth spurt cause he’s sleeping a ton today, and he woke to eat more last night than he normally does (he was down to 1-2 times a night, now he’s back up to 3-4) He’s almost 3 months and I hear that’s when he’s due for another one, but… I hope it’s a mental growth spurt and not a physical one! I just can’t imagine him getting any bigger. He’s already in 3-6 stuff, and we have NO 6-9 stuff, cause luckily I listened to my Mom and didn’t buy too far ahead, cause she said we didn’t know what season he’d be in when he was that size. I wish he could just talk and play but stay this size…

What do you do when you can’t hold your babies anymore?

And Witchy, I forget, did you say that you co-sleep? We’re thinking about trying that… Cayden HAS to be in our bed to fall asleep, and then it’s a crap shoot or not whether we can move him into the bassinet without him waking up. So we’re looking into getting a co-sleeper. Cause I’m terrified to sleep in the bed with him and no protection.

I’m part of another forum (yes, I’m cheating on you guys!) for new moms and stuff… And I’m part of a “birthdate club” (September 08 babies…) And a few of the women in there are already pregnant again! I just can’t believe giving birth and turning around and doing it all over again. I mean, as much as I want another baby, now is not the time, and while I would have it, I would cry!

16 12 2008
Witchypoo

Holy Shit, Ladies…you sure have some interesting events going on in your lives. First, (and I know that “interesting” is NOT the word for your situation, Goldie), I want to tell you, Sweetie, how sorry I am that you have to go through this loss right now. I mean, the timing is really bad…during the holidays, right before you make a major move to the other side of the country…damn. Not good. Like Cloey already pointed out, there’s nothing we can tell you right now that’s going to actually help, or change anything. All I can say is that you know we are thinking about you – hoping that you won’t go through an extended period of feeling crappy. About the only positive I can think of regarding your situation is what Lara mentioned: California, single, free & easy, etc. But, that only applies if you’re able to ENJOY your single status. What do you want to bet that your ex will have a hard time seeing you meeting and dating other guys? The way he flipped out about the unanswered phone calls a couple of weeks ago?…it’ll be interesting to see how he handles the real deal, (you on the loose, I mean). That’s assuming you decide to stay friends with him initially, though; sometimes, still having strong feelings for someone makes it really hard to transition right away to “friends” status. Just remember…we’re here to listen, Goldie.

Cloey, the stupid ex of your brother’s sounds like a complete idiot. Yeah, she sure does have a lot of NERVE to think you’d be interested in befriending HER. Like Lara mentioned, she probably just wants to get to your brother through you. Could she be any more trasparent? Ridiculous. And the obsessive, eager-beaver who’s desperately seeking your sister?…what a weirdo. Do people like this not realize how strange they appear to others? Yeah, maybe just lying to him about your sister being with some new guy who she’ll probably marry might be the best way to handle this disturbing person. Some people will only back off if they figure there’s absolutely NO hope; being subtle or polite with them doesn’t always work. A situation like that is one that a lie is actually useful and advisable…otherwise, you might be hearing from this guy for a long time. Not good.

Janey, glad to hear that you and Ezi are getting along, and things are a little smoother. You don’t want to be fighting during the holidays…yuck.

The subject of clothes and being picky about choices…I can definitely relate. Certain items are easy for Jerry to pick, (like coats, bras, etc.), but tops, pants, dresses – I just prefer to pick out a bunch of things that he can choose from. I don’t like my clothes to bag around my waist, (for some reason, that drives me crazy), and baggy clothes in general just don’t feel natural to me, for the most part. I also don’t usually care for turtlenecks, or any neckline that makes me feel like I’m being strangled…I’m always pulling at it and messing with the material. Jerry pointed out an otherwise really cute top to me on – yes, you guessed it – Victoria’s Secret website. It’s short-sleeved, (I usually prefer that), form-fitting, (he’s thinking he’ll have an excellent view of my boobs), with fabric-covered buttons going all the way up the neckline. It’s cute and I’d get it…except it’s a turtleneck, and I know it’d drive me crazy. Also, while my skin isn’t particularly overly-sensitive, I don’t like material that feels “scratchy” on it…like acrylic/wool blends, for instance. Anyhoo, so far, I picked out and tried on a really cute little waist-coat, (very warm for all the outdoor sports we’re at for the spawn), two Victoria’s Secret bras, two pairs of jeans from their website, (they’re already here, and Jerry has to wrap them, still…but I’m cheating and wearing one pair to his company Christmas party before he does…heeheehee), and a glittery sweater/top from the same place. I’m supposed to pick out the rest of my things online from Vicky’s today, (they’re having a 25% off deal that ends today, plus it’s getting pretty close to Christmas and I better hurry up or I won’t have the rest of my stuff in time)…but they have these types of sales practically every week or so. For some reason, I feel kind of listless about picking out my things lately…I don’t know why, since I LOVE to shop for clothes, (especially if I can just do it over the phone and have it come to me…rather than drag Heath all over, trying on clothes and pulling my hair out while he’s being his usual rambunctious self). I don’t know…I’ve just been dragging my feet about it, but I’ll have to decide soon. Jerry also keeps asking me if I want this pair of earrings I’ve been looking at; I do like them…but again – I can’t seem to focus in on a decision, you know? As if it’s some really important thing, anyway – it’s not. I just don’t like to spend money on myself unless I’m sure that I’ll get enough use out of an item.

Lara, you friend, Cindy, from high school…that’s terrible about her husband beating her up. I seriously don’t get women who stick with assholes who put their hands on them in anger. Do they think it will get better? It almost always only gets worse…with an escalation of the violence over time. Does it surprise you that she’d wind up with an abusive guy? You said she’s kind of flaky…it might be hard to be friends with someone who’s being abused, and not doing anything about it, (like dumping the bully, for instance). I know I’d only be able to stand being a close friend with someone in that situation for so long before I’d become exasperated with her for putting up with it. A really close friend of mine was in that kind of relationship years ago…it drove me, (and her parents), crazy. She wound up living with the guy for years, lying to her parents about it, (they thought she’d broken off contact with him). This was a trickier situation than you’d think, (hiding him from her parents, I mean), since they lived close to her…and their family was pretty close with each other, anyway. I still don’t know why she did it, (she also followed up that crappy relationship with several other abusive – verbally and emotionally – ones, also). I finally learned that trying to talk sense into her was only going to work if she was ready to listen – and willing to change her patterns. Frustrating.

Well, on that happy note, Ladies…take care.

16 12 2008
Janey

i got Ezi these jordans that are completely black and then have white in the front. they are totally hot and now i want a pair for my self. i hope he likes them!

question: do any of you get migranes? i get them and it soooo bad i feel like someone is hitting me in the head with and i ce pick and a hammer.

16 12 2008
lara21167

Hello Witchy go for the earrings lol. I love jewelery!! My flakey friend Cindy, when I saw her she was with her mother. She had thrown the bum out, restraining order the whole nine yards. And mentioned she had to try to sell her house because she couldn’t afford it without him. I would bet they are back together now. I think money is the main reason women stay with abusive men. Another is that abuser makes the victim feel worthless. That she can’t make it on her own, cuts her off from friends and family that sort of thing.

16 12 2008
Witchypoo

Our comments must have crossed, Cloey…I didn’t see your latest until after I posted. No, it wasn’t me who mentioned a “co-sleeper”…I’m not familiar with that term. I did say that our kids all slept with us for a LONG time; we just got Heath into his own little toddler bed the end of August. He loves his little bed, but if he’s not feeling very well, he’ll still ask to climb in our bed, occasionally. Also, we’re also having some really cold weather…it’s been in the 20’s for several days now; a couple of days ago, we got snow, and it’s still around because of the low temperatures. The schools were closed on Monday, and today there was a 2 hour delay. The spawn are loving it, naturally. Tomorrow and Thursday are also predicted for snow…Jerry’s company Christmas party is tomorrow night; we’ll have to see how that works out with the weather, (also, Chance’s advanced pitching class, which is somewhat of a drive from here). Hmmm…kind of cool getting snow right before Christmas.

Take care.

16 12 2008
Witchypoo

Oh, yeah…forgot: the nursing/period issue you mentioned, Cloey. I didn’t get my period again after having my guys for a good 7 months or so…and then it was on/off…not regular. I nursed for a long time, though, so no period is normal in those circumstances. I’m not sure about your case…though, if I’ve been sick or something, once-in-awhile I’ll skip my period, or it will be really late; my system just does that every now and then. With everything you’ve been through physically over the last several months, it’s pretty understandable that your cycle is screwy…especially considering that you only had Cayden the end of September, and you pumped for a while; hormones do strange things, sometimes. Maybe just give it another month or so.

Take care.

16 12 2008
Clo

Witchy- co sleeping is just sleeping in the bed with your baby. And I know what you mean about dragging your feet on shopping… I dunno, I hate spending money on myself, even when it’s things I need. Mom said to wait on my period too, so I guess I will. Like I said, I’m not worried about being preggo, cause Jeremy and I haven’t had sex very much, and he’s used Condoms, and now I’m on birth control, and there are just so many other things that could mess it up, such as the surgeries, breast feeding, birth control…

Laura, I could totally see my Cindy ending up with an abusive guy. She just wants to be in a relationship SO badly. I’m like, I didn’t find my husband until I stopped looking for one… So cliche, but so true.

Cayden took a suppppper long nap, so I got tons of stuff done. I started working out on the wii fit today, and really that’s going to work out quite nicely. Cayden only let me get 10 minutes done before he decided to wake up (from his like 5 hour nap, no joke. He went down at 10:30, woke briefly at 11:00 and was pretty much down from then till now. I think it’s a growth spurt, did I already mention that?) but anyway, I figure 10 minutes here and there is better than none at all.

Eventually I’ll go to a real gym… But… I feel so paranoid going when I’m big. I mean I just feel like people will judge me. And I know there are gyms out there for bigger woman, only we have a free membership to a gym here (our health insurance pays for it, how cool is that?) so right now I like being in my own home. Plus, I think Cayden is too young to put in the gyms daycare.

Anyway, he’s awake now, and just gave me a poop (I know it’s gross but it’s so funny when he poops, he gets this serious look on his face and grunts. Lol) soooo yeah better go fix that.

16 12 2008
lara21167

Hello Janey, yes I get migranes. And I take excedrine the only thing that helps. But yea, they are bad. Mine are getting progressively worse. Light used to not bother me, now I can’t stand light when I have one. And I get really sick and weak.

16 12 2008
Clo

Oh yeah, the migraine thing, I knew there was something I forgot. I get wicked bad migraines when I’m sleep deprived or usually when I get the flu or flu symptoms… It feels like someone is using an ice cream scoop and scraping the sides of my skull (kinda like you scrape a pumpkin to get rid of the goop?) and like someone stabs the back of my eyeballs and temples with an ice pick. Sleep is the ONLY thing that gets rid of them for me, and if I get one cause I’m sleep deprived I have no issues falling asleep with one, but if I’m sick you can forget it.

16 12 2008
Janey

i hate Ezi. he’s the best boyfriend ever!!! if you did a double take to make sure thats what i said, yes, thts what i said. =]

heres why:
he calls me. asks if he can come over because he thinks that we need to talk.
im thinking he did something wrong. or i did something he didnt like.
so he comes over. i open the door for him. we go to my room where we usually fight. so i sit down and idk he looked really nervous.
he looked at me and i guess he thought i was sad because he said “you look that way a lot lately.” so i asked like waht? cause frankly i was more than a little confused. he said “you havent been very happy lately. you always look sad. i dont know whats wrong cause you wont tell me. whatever it is that bothering you is making it very hard for us to get along.” at this point i was SURE he was about to end things, so i asked him “are you breaking up with me?” and he asked me to let him finish. so i was like whatever, dude. so he was like “i’ve been trying to cheer you up, but i dont know how and everytime i ask whats wrong you say nothing and walk away. so i give up. i cant cheer you up. but i think you need something or someone to distract you for a while. i miss your smile. thankfully i know someone who can bring it back.”

so im like dude! what the fuck is he talking about!!! so takes my hand makes me go to his car with him and told me to close my eyes. then he put something heavy in my arms. when i opened my eyes i screamed. he got me the cutest puppy i have ever laid eyes on!!!!im so excited i cant believe he got me a puppy. i had the bigest smile on my face when the puppy licked me. he was like i knew he could bring your smile back. i LOVE him soooo much. he’s the best. now we have to decide on a name. and since my mom cant have dogs in the house cause of he asthma we’re going to keep him at Ezi’s which means im going to be spending a lot of time at his house. he’sa balck and white and black papillon puppy. and he’s only three months olD.

now, what to name him???

16 12 2008
Janey

okay, i named my puppy. His name is Oreo.
although it might not make much sense cause he’s more white than black but i like it. i think its cute and Ezi agreed. so thts my babys name.

17 12 2008
lara21167

Ahhh Janey that’s sweet. Oreo sounds like the perfect name.

17 12 2008
Janey

i have a pic on my myspace.
i tried to take more but he just wont stay still!!

17 12 2008
lara21167

OMG Janey he is precious!! And Oreo soo fits.

17 12 2008
Janey

thanks. he’s soooo cute and has the tiniest bark!
He peed in the house this morning.
thank god it was after Ezi left lol

17 12 2008
lara21167

It takes awhile for puppies to actually be able to control their pee and poo. Ezi will have to be patient.

17 12 2008
Clo

So… I’m really kinda sad this morning. I told you guys about my other forum, the ones for moms? Well… Someone posted a thing about a little girl named Kayleigh… Who was born so early… Well, for awhile she was doing REALLY well… And now not so much. They don’t think she’s going to make it. And it just makes me so super sad…. So, I was wondering once again if you guys could pray for the family. For a miracle, that Kayleigh will make it. And, if for some reason she can’t, for her family to find stregnth and comfort. Here’s the link, if you guys want to read her story:

17 12 2008
17 12 2008
Janey

clo- i will pray for that little girl and her family.
its not easy to lose a child.

17 12 2008
lara21167

Oh Cloey, I couldn’t read it. Saw the Picture of the tiny tiny hand and arm. Read the first couple sentences. That’s all I can take. I will pray for them.

17 12 2008
Witchypoo

Hey, Cloey…I read the info. from the link you provided; that sweet baby’s father seems like such a nice man. Of course I’ll say prayers for the tiny little girl and her family…I’ve already started.

Take care.

17 12 2008
Witchypoo

Janey…I don’t have the url for your page anymore. If you feel like giving it to me again…I can look at the pictures of your little Oreo. That was really sweet of Ezi to rack his brain trying to come up with a way to cheer you up. Guys are so funny sometimes; they can be jerks, fighting with us about nothing…but when they think we’re sad – they can’t take it and think its THEIR responsibility to “fix” things for us. That’s one way to guage if your guy loves you deeply…he can’t stand to see you sad. Enjoy your puppy, Sweetie.

Take care.

17 12 2008
Witchypoo

Oh, and Lara…that’s so cool about you getting the computer for your home; now you can spend hours-upon-hours visiting with us on the weekends. Hahaha.

Goldie…are you there? How are you, Sweetie?

Take care.

17 12 2008
Janey

witchy, its myspace.com/oxricanlovexo

18 12 2008
lara21167

Hello, how is everyone today?

Rowdy please check in and let us know how you are doing. And remember this is a good place to just vent if you need to.

18 12 2008
Gabberjazz

Clo:
I was reading about that baby girl.. Todays post has a bit of hope for her….
Kinda makes me think hard about everything now!

18 12 2008
lara21167

I hope the poor little tiny tiny baby makes it. I feel sooo bad for her parents. But it sounds like they are doing everything in their power for her.

18 12 2008
Clo

Stupid firefox keeps not freaking working and then I don’t have access to my favorites. Ugh, but I finally remembered the addy to this site, so HERE I AM!

Gabber- The story just makes me crazy sad. I meanthe family seems to have such a good attitude, even when things are bad, and I don’t think I could maintain that. And, losing a baby is hard at ANY stage, but she’s almost 6 months old! But yes, todays posting looks like maybe so… I’ve been praying hardcore, and being less frustrated with Cayden, because reading their story just makes me so happy that he’s around to get frustrated at.

However, I am frustrated. We were doing OK on the sleep deal, once or twice a night, which was good. Now it’s back to every 2-3 hours. I think he’s going through a growth spurt (which I may have said already before, I’m too tired to go look at the other entries) but he’s eating a ton (still only four ounces at a time though, that’s killing me!) and then going right back to sleep and sleeping a ton, so… My baby is growing up! 😦

Say my mother in law last night… Ugh. She was a little less annoying than usual… They were supposed to come over here, but canceled, which I don’t really blame them for… It was kinda icy, and I mean it was fine for us, but they’re older and I really didn’t want them to fall or anything. But they were kinda mad cause he wouldn’t smile, laugh, or “talk” to them, but I’m like, he hasn’t seen you in over a month… He doesn’t know who you are. She did get on my nerves cause she just kept second guessing EVERYTHING (I took off his pants cause they’re these stiff jeans and he can’t really move in them. Every two seconds ‘is he too cold?’ ‘I think he’s too cold’ ‘it’s kinda breezy in here, shouldn’t you put his pants on?’ and I’m like, really, it’s fine, he’s fine. Then the same with his socks, only she was convinced his socks were too small, and they weren’t.) but the thing that KILLED me and REALLY mad me mad was… We were talking about food network shows and she was saying who she liked and didn’t, and She goes “I don’t like the Neelys, they’re always talking about the mommas and the poppas and whatever. It’s that black talk, too much black talk, it’s sickening!” and I’m like WHAT? I mean, I’ve always known she’s racist, but this is the first time she’s sad anything when Caydens been around. And I know he can’t understand now, but… There will be a time when he can. And I don’t want him to be around like that. I mean my husband had her for a mom and he’s not racist, but… I remember the first time I heard the n word, I didn’t know what it meant so I went around saying it until someone got really offended and yelled at me… And what if Cayden does that? I mean total accident but still…

18 12 2008
Witchypoo

Hey, Cloey…you know, I’d just put my foot down about how your mother-in-law speaks around the baby…and around you, also, (why should you have to listen to bullshit, racist garbage spewing out of her ignorant mouth? Your beliefs count, and she shouldn’t be so damn inflammatory, anyway). She sounds like a real sweetheart; you’re probably better off only seeing her every few weeks. It sounds like Cayden has plenty of family visiting him on a regular basis; I doubt he’ll miss out too much if he only sees that woman every couple of weeks or so. It must be a real effort to be continually pleasant around her.

Take care.

18 12 2008
Witchypoo

Oh, yeah…forgot: we are getting a lot of snow, and it’s topping a sheet of ice. The driving is terrible, (plus, Washingtonians aren’t exactly practiced at driving in snow/ice. Rain, yeah, but not snow so much. Naturally, my two older spawn don’t have any school; no way are the bus drivers going to risk driving in this. My guys are having a blast.

Take care.

18 12 2008
lara21167

Cloey maybe say something to your MIL about saying things in front of Cayden. She may as well get used to it. When I was a kid in the 70’s in Montgomery County Maryland rasicm was everywhere. Whites didn’t associate with Blacks and Blacks didn’t associate with whites. I look back on that now and think how stupid it is. I got my feelings hurt when my “black” friend form elementry school would not talk to me when we went to Junior HIgh. I didn’t care about the black/white issues and would talk to anyone, but she snubbed me because I was white. Sooo dumb!! You probably can’t protect Cayden from racism completely, but you can teach him to be above it.

18 12 2008
lara21167

Me and Witchy crossed. She’s right, I’m used to being around racist people and I ignore it, but Witchy is right you shouldn’t have to listen to the bullshit.

18 12 2008
Janey

yea we are supposed to be getting a foot of snow
tomorrow. =[

guys, i dunno what to do. my migrane wont go away. i cslled my doctor and they did this head scan thing but they cant find anything wrong. its getting worse. and now Oreo is always barking at everything. i had the tv on and we has barking at it. i turned it off and he stopped. he’s so cute. but its not helping my stupid migrane.

speaking of Oreo. i took him out today so he could go potty and it was so cold the poor thing was just shaking. so after 10 minutes outside and no pee i took him back in. right after i took of his leash, guess what he did. yup. he peed. ON MY SHOES.

18 12 2008
Clo

Janey- It’s probably too cold for the poor little guy, you may want to paper train him, you can either use newspapers or “potty pads” but if you use potty pads you may want to buy bed pads for adults… They’re the same thing, but usually cheaper. They’re over in the section by the adult diapers.

As far as the migraines go, when’s the last time you had your eyes checked? I’m getting headaches frequently now, even after I get some sleep, and I think it’s cause I’m supposed to wear glasses and I don’t (I lost them a long time ago and glasses are freaking expensive!) I know you wear glasses, but if you haven’t had your prescription checked you may need to change it. Just a thought.

18 12 2008
Janey

Clo-i got them checked last year when i got my glasses. and yes they are expensive. i paid $435 for my frame only. the lenses were another $75. do you think i should get them checked again? cause i really suck at pain tolerence. i know it sound like such a girly thing to do but when i think that the pain is too much i cry and i dont like crying. i HATE to cry.

19 12 2008
Clo

I think you’re supposed to do a yearly eye exam, so I’d give it a shot. Like I said I know I’ve been having headaches lately so that’s what I’m going to do after the new year (my husband has a FSA card, which for those of you who don’t know what that is, cause I didn’t, is like, they take out money out of his paycheck and give him a credit card and he can use that card to pay doctors co-payments, medication, and other things that are this list, and eye exams and eye wear are on that list, we’re out of money this year, so I have to wait till next year) So yeah, I know that may be a reason. I mean there are a bunch of other reasons, like stress or sickness or whatever, but hey, it’s worth a shot.

19 12 2008
Janey

well i call my eye doctor tomorrow. although idk if ill be able to drive tomorrow. my car isnt exactly built for snow. and were getting a foot. =[
but yes im gonna get my eyes checked cause i cant take these headaches anymore. im constantly taking care of kids too so i cant afford to have a headache around them!

19 12 2008
lara21167

Good morning. Anyone else getting snow or ice off of this storm. We are just getting rain, it is soooo dreary out.

Janey have you tried excedrine? I swear it is the only thing that helps my headaches. Somthing about the asprin, asetimetiphin (sp?) and caffine combo just does the trick.

I need to vent a bit. Remember how I was bragging about my daughter’s hip hop dance team getting 1st place and their was no competitors in that catagory. Well they did an excellant job they really did. Last night at Cheer practice the coach showed us the judges results from the comp. They tore those poor girls up!! The point score was 128 out of 300. And they didn’t say one positive thing in their comments!! They said things like “need more format changes” These girls are up then down rolling on the floor and everything what more do they want!! Then “not uniform” They were perfectly together!! “More attitude” and right after that “smile more” Does that even make sense!! Yea it’s easy for the judges to sit on their fat asses and judge little girls working their butts off to perform for them!! Now I really appreciate the movie “Stick It” when they controlled who won what.

19 12 2008
monkeyspeaks

Hey guys. I’ll try and write a new post soon. As you can probably tell I’ve been a bit down in the dumps. Im getting better though. A lot of things are confusing. I get that he has committment issues and that is not necessarily something I want to be a part of, which I told him alst night. “I don’t want to be in a relationship with someone who has committment issues”

But we talked for the first time. I mean we’ve spoken but last night we TALKED. Im just confused. Should I be his friends, shouldn’t I. My family all says hell no. They hated watching me go through what I just did. I cried for two days straight and then fought back tears for a few days following. Today is the first day I havent cried yet. Then last night I call him to tell him how scared I am of moving. And we finally get everything out. His issues, how I feel it was bullshit that he blamed the pressure on me when i think he put it on himself, how I shouldnt be scared because just bc we aren’t together doesn’t mean he wont be there for me. That its not that the past 10 months meant nothing and it snot that he doesnt have feelings for me, they just arent the same as mine. But what does that mean. What feelings does he have then? Because I dont tell my friends I have feelings for them when I just want to be buddies. When someone says I have feelings for you, to ME that just means, I do like you as more than a friend. But he just wants to be friends right now without any pressure for something he doesn’t want.

So its a lot of back and forth on his part. I told him all I ever really wanted was to go out there and see what would happen. No expectations, just enjoy each others company and let whatever would grow from there grow – whether it was friendship or more.

He said everything I said made sense. But idont think that means he wants to see what can happen. He says he sees me as a friend right now and thats it.

He also is gonna try to help me out my frist day there. I wont have anyone – no friends or family since everyone is out of town or working or far away and so he said he would even try and take off a few hours to come get me at the airport and help me run an errand. I told him I would just take a taxi from the airport but he said if he could get off he would try to come pick me up. Why though. I mean why go above and beyond and inconvenience himself like that just to make my life easier when he should be pulling away from me???? Im very confused.

I have this weird inkling that when I am out there – and there is no pressure – and he stops making assumptions about how I feel and what I want, (and i think he is STARTING to get that i dont just want a relationship), and we just take it one day at a time like we should then who knows. He’s very back and forth. Which I dont like but. I dont know. You just dont do what he is offering to do to someone you dont want to be with…. or do you? But, OH i dont know. Can ya tell im confused?!?!

19 12 2008
lara21167

Rowdy, I’m confused too. Sometimes I hate men lol, don’t really mean that but they just don’t make sense sometimes. I did ask Joe Hottie to answer your question, he said he reads our comments, we will see. It would be nice to hear from a man why they act this way. I think your boo is confused himself. I think he wants to be with you, but now that you are moving there he is feeling constricted or whatever. After you’re there awhile he may come around. Kind of like prewedding jitters. I say let him help you out if that’s what he wants to do, but be a bit indifferent with him. Like you could care less either way, and just see where it goes.

19 12 2008
Witchypoo

Wow, Goldie…it sounds like you’re getting yanked all over the place. I’ve had some close girlfriends in similar situations as your’s; basically, it always came down to the fact that, while the guy in question “cared” about her”, it wasn’t enough to make a firm decision about being in a committed relationship with her or not. This could go on indefinitely for you; you have to decide if you’re willing to keep going through trauma after each time he pulls back. I’m guessing that he’s offering to do all these things for you out of guilt; he doesn’t want you to see him as the “bad guy”…he probably doesn’t want to think of himself in that light, either. Guys will do A LOT out of guilt, if they’re feeling bad about how things are going with a girl. When he says he wants to be “friends”, he probably means every word he’s telling you. It’s just that, normally, men will avoid womens’ tears at almost ANY cost…if he’s telling you that he doesn’t want a “relationship”, knowing that you are going to cry, get emotional, etc…he probably means it. You’re probably feeling confused because he’s being so nice, and still wants to have contact with you. I’m just worried that you’ll be reading more into it than he means, getting your hopes up for something that might not happen. Even if you did get back into a relationship with him…he might be someone you’re always going to be jumping back & forth with: committed relationship – just friends, and back to committed…until the next time. That kind of arrangement is depleting and exhausting – it can wind up making you feel resentful and bitter if things don’t turn out in the end. Maybe this is just something you need to see through until the bitter end…I get that. I just hope you don’t let other opportunities, (i.e…great guys who will be very happy to “get serious” with you, and will be capable of giving to, and receiving from, you). Your family is probably just worried about you getting hurt even worse; I’d be pretty upset if you were my daughter, sister, whatever, also. I’d probably want to wring his indecisive neck. I know, I know…he’s a nice guy. Still.

Take care.
P.S….you’re probably pissed that I said all this – since you didn’t ask. I thought I’d take that chance, Sweetie.

19 12 2008
janelyse829

LAra- yes. we’re getting at least 3 inches per hour and it supposed to snow all weekend long!!!! im tired i was out shoveling the driveway and when i finished there was another inch of snow on the floor so i gave up and came inside cause it was cold!!!

19 12 2008
janelyse829

o0o0o forgot to mention that i went to the eye doctor my eyes are fine. sooo im thinkin, what the hell is wrong with my head?

19 12 2008
lara21167

Janey you have been under alot of stress the past few weeks. That probably triggered your headache, try the excedrine. Stress is the main problem for my headaches. Get Ezi to rub your neck and shoulders that may help too.

Rowdy, Witchy has a very good point, guys do hate to make a girl cry. Just tread carefully and protect your heart.

Everyone have a great weekend!! Btw, got my modem but service won’t be hooked up until the 26th, guess they want to stick with my billing cycle.

20 12 2008
Clo

Rowdy- He may feel obligated to help you out. And guys don’t always take things the way girls do, so him saying he has feelings for you, may mean just friendship feelings. All in all, it sounds like he just got spooked when you decided to move out there. And while he may change his mind after you’ve been out there, don’t count on it, cause then it’ll only hurt that much more if he doesn’t. And the problem too, if he does want you after you’ve been there awhile, is does he want you because you seem like you don’t want him? I dated a guy who honestly only wanted to be with me when I ignored him. If I ignored texts, phone calls, blew off dates, he was in love with me. But if I responded to calls, texts, and got mad when he stood me up, he’d break it off cause I was too clingy. The issue for me was, we worked together, so I would go into work, acting like I was fine and didn’t care about him. And then he’d want me back. Anyway, the point is, I called my cousin crying one day, because I didn’t know what to do. This merry go round bullshit was killing me. And she told me to just stop pretending I was over him when I wasn’t, because then when I was really was over him, he’d come crawling back and I’d really not want anything to do with him.

I dunno if this fits in your situation. But, if I were you, I’d stay away for a little while. Maybe eventually you can be friends but… It seems like you guys have had this kinda romantic friendship, and it’s easy to slip back into it cause it’s comfortable. I see you going out there and slipping into it, him going along with it for awhile cause he likes it, then getting spooked, running away, hurting you, and then doing it all over again. You’re amazing, and you deserve someone who sees that.

20 12 2008
Janey

its been snowing nonstop for two days now.
who wants some snow?

we’re supposed to be gettin a HUGE storm tomorrow but
we already have 20 inches on the floor.

21 12 2008
Janey

im going sledding!!!
theres over two feet now so me and my cousin nd her hubby and kids are going sledding in central park. will post pix on myspace when i get back =]

22 12 2008
Witchypoo

Hi, Ladies…how’s it going? It’s about 10:30 pm here in the old homestead of our fair Evergreen state, (Washington)…however, nothing much is green right now, since it’s all completely covered in snow, snow snow. Wow! We’ve been getting snow on and off all this past week, but yesterday and today it’s just been dumping; there are also high winds, so you feel like you’re in a huge blizzard. Friday, I attempted to take the car Jerry normally drives, (he took our 4-wheel drive truck to work, since I don’t HAVE to go anywhere, and he feels like he should be at work – even when their guys are calling in due to weather conditions), late in the afternoon because I thought maybe the roads were a little more manageable by then. WRONG. I only attempted it because Heathness has his marshall arts class, (Little Dragons), on Wednesdays and Fridays…and he REALLY didn’t want to miss it. So, I load up all three spawn and we gingerly back out of the driveway, slowly slipping our way out of the ice/snow covered culdesac. Well, in our neighborhood, there are a lot of hills, and the first one I get to and attempt, we start to slide sideways, can’t get traction, etc…I can’t get up the hill, and I couldn’t turn around, either. So, I had to slowly retrace my route – backward – down what little part of the hill I’d managed to cover, practically peeing my panties the whole way. There was the little old lady who lives around the corner from us taking her daily walk, and I had all the windows down so that we could see better the route we were retracing…she could hear the commotion in the car, (me semi-screeching about how we’re not going to make it without slipping all over, Beau, Chance, and Heath all chattering their own overly-excited, semi-hysterical comments. I can just imagine what we sounded like. The sweet old lady was like, “Hunny…are you ok in there? Do you want me to help direct you down the hill? You’re ALMOST to that little bare spot on the pavement where there’s no ice; maybe you’ll be able to get some traction there.” My hair was probably standing on end; we eventually were able to turn enough so that I could turn off the hill, making it back into our culdesac and driveway. I was pretty damn relieved to walk back into the house. We explained to Heath that there was NO WAY we could get to Little Dragons this time; he understood the situation perfectly, after experiencing the scenic, highly entertaining jaunt we took trying to get there. Anyhoo, it’s a lot worse now; it really is a “Winter Wonderland” out there now…just like where you live, Janey. Did you have fun sledding at Central Park? My kids go through about 3-4 changes of clothes a day when we get snow; predictable, hugh?

Everyone ready for Christmas? We’ve been busy doing things around the house…moving furniture, getting Beau settled in his new room, (Jerry brought him home a really nice entertainment center from his work, (the customers didn’t like how the black stain turned out, or something; it’s really nice, though). Jerry, Beau, and Chance pulled up the carpeting in the room and laid hardwood flooring down to replace it; Chance’s room, (eventually, Heath will share the room with Chance, also), is getting a new wood floor over the Christmas break. We got him a little 5-foot Christmas tree from the tree farm when we got our family tree a couple of weeks ago. It’s really cute, and Chance and Heath love it, (Heath already considers Chance’s room HIS room also…since Chance has been telling him that they’ll be sharing it soon). Heath takes turns hanging out in both Chance’s room and Beau’s; he has his own little chair in each room. Last night, Heath decided to wrap presants for Jerry and I, from him. He found a football and a soccer ball in his toybox; Jerry gets the football, and the soccer ball is mine. Chance and Beau helped him wrap; then Heath showed us our gifts as he found a spot under the tree. Our generous little man…hahaha. I talked to my sister-in-law this morning about what she and her daughters will be bringing for Christmas Day dinner, (we always bring dishes to each other’s holiday dinners). When it’s our turn to have Christmas Day, like this year, we always serve a huge prime rib roast; it’s so good, (I’m getting hungry right now just thinking about it…plus, I didn’t have much dinner, so my stomach is growling, anyway). I need to stop thinking about this subject, (I’d go eat something now, but I don’t like eating right before going to bed; I don’t usually sleep well right after eating).

Well, I better sign off for now, before I fascinate all of you too much…hahaha. (Goldie…how are you doing, Sweetie? Much better, I hope). Nightie-night, Girls, and take care.

22 12 2008
Janey

we went out and bought the sleds, got all my 5 of my cousins kids snows suits and boots. then we went to her houe and made dinner and the temp dropped to ten below zero and the wind was making it look like it was a blizzard just like you said, witchy and neither she nor i could drive in that. so we didnt go but we might today. and it was just too cold to take the kids out. i did get some beutiful shots of the snow and snow-covered cars lol i’ll put them on myspace later on today.

22 12 2008
Janey

madddd typos. im balmming the time =] its 7:15am

22 12 2008
lara21167

Well looks like Janey and Witchy will have a white Christmas, I’m jealous. We were supposed to get some snow and/or ice Saturday. Nothing. Now it is soooo cold well not as bad as Janey. We are at a whole 11 degrees, but the wind is blowing so of course the wind chill is worse. I’m sure Rowdy is laughing at us as she enjoys the sun in Florida!! Cloey did you get any snow?

Well I think I am ready for Christmas. I still need stocking stuffers but thats about it. No matter what I do, I always run out Christmas Eve for something last minute. But that’s just Christmas for me!!

22 12 2008
Janey

Lara- although i love the concept of a white xmas, i dont want one lol so youre jaelous of me and witchy and im jealous of Rowdy. and my brother! he called the other day and told me it was 85 in FL. i was soooo madd lol

yea im ready for christmas too. im getting a new phone from a certain someone that had to ask my BFF what to get me lol

22 12 2008
Clo

Last night we got down to 1 degree, but apparently with the windchill it’s 20 below. I’m with Lara, if it’s going to be this flipping cold, the least they could give us is snow! We get just enough to make the roads crappy and then it quits. It’s been icing here and there too.

This weekend was crazy busy. I talked my husband out of going to work on Friday (sometimes I think you just need a mental health day. I remember when I was in school my mom would randomly come and pick me up for an “appointment” and we’d go to the zoo, or shopping, or to COSI {this really fun science museum we have here.} it was really nice) Anyway, we went to the mall, finished most of our shopping (we had to go to a few other places to get some stuff, like wal-mart to get pictures developed…) Jeremy bought me new Nikes for Christmas (Well, Jeremy bought them, but they’re from Cayden, myspace picture of his little shopping spree, lol.) He got Daddy some shoes and a tee shirt… We got new cell phones!!!! I’m so excited. We were on Jeremy’s parent’s plan, and all of a sudden they wanted us off their plan, which doesn’t make sense because we’ve never paid late and Jeremy’s actually covered his Dads bill a whole bunch… Anyway, so we switched and therefore got new phones, which is exciting, but then Jeremy’s parents got mad at us because we didn’t get on their provider so now it costs them minutes to call us. Which I’m like, then why’d you want us off you’re plan? They’re ridiculous. Anyway, we got my Mom a digital picture frame (If you need a good gift from someone, radio shack has them on sale for really cheap! At least up here…) which she’s going to LOVE, we put ALL of Cayden’s pictures on it. We bought my sister a new cell phone for Christmas (we joined her plan, it’s waaaay cheaper.) She cried she was so happy (we gave it to her already, couldn’t wait for Christmas.) She and my Mom have just been such a big help and we wanted to try to thank them. My brother got a movie, the only expensive thing he wants is an xbox 360 and we can’t afford that. Plus my brothers so cute, he told us not to spend Money on him and to buy Cayden something nice…. Cayden got a light up bear, this laugh and learn puppy that kinda creeps me out, a rattle, a car seat toy, a pack of diapers, bottles, nipples, a teether, and a bib. Jeremy also got this stupid fake gun, it’s a shot gun that shoots nerf darts, he’s obsessed with “shooting” our animals when they’re doing something they’re not supposed to be doing. When you open it up to reload, it pops the “shells” back out at you. (I dunno if you guys have a KB toys where you are, but they’re going out of business, so we got some deals.) We got his Mom this necklace cause she loves jewelry, his Dad a movie…. Then we made everyone ornaments. They’re so cute, their reindeers made of of Caydens hand tracing and foot tracing. We also found his first ornament, there’s a pic of that on myspace, I love it. Friday after the mall we dropped Cayden off at my Moms, Saturday we picked him up and went out to see my friend Natalie and her new baby (also pics on myspace, Brice is tiiiiiiny.) Sunday we went out with my friend Courtney to thrift stores. We were looking for clothes for Cayden… He’s outgrown a few of his 3-6 things and we don’t have ANY 6-9 stuff, and I’m tired of spending tons of money on new clothes for him and then he’s out of them in a week, so we got a bag full of clothes for like 20 bucks. The rest of the weekend was spent me putting together his ornaments, or grocery shopping for Christmas dinner (witchy, we eat this amazing ham, it’s sooooo good.) or wra[[ing presents. I have 2 more to wrap and I am done.

Oooh, I also figured out what my next tattoo will be. I need to find out how much it’s going to cost, we may do it for my birthday.

22 12 2008
lara21167

Guess I shouldn’t complain about the cold here we are getting to the low 20’s today, not sure what the wind chill is, but it wouldn’t be below zero. My son is home for Christmas so I’m happy 🙂

22 12 2008
Janey

Lara-im so happy for you!

clo-you sound like you had tons of fun this weekend!!

sooo i have to go pick Ezi up. he was pulling out of his drivway and his car got stuck in the snow. lol lets just hope that mine doesnt

22 12 2008
Janey

ok im back. stupid snow!!!! its not so cold out now.
the sun came out and now its like 15 degrees. its just the snow.
i just gotta stay in side

22 12 2008
Clo

Mom says with the windchill we’re still below zero. It’s freezing. Like, insanely cold. Our cold water in the kitchen is frozen and we can’t turn it on. Again, I hate the fact that it’s so freaking cold and we still have no snow! And I did have tons of fun this weekend, only now I’m tired.

Question: When did you Mom’s start your kids on rice cereal? My ped. said we’d talk about it at our next appointment, and he’ll be a little over 4 months then, and he just hit 3 months yesterday… Normally I’d just wait, but…

He’s holding his head up on his own, can sit supported. He shows interest in my food when I eat, and he takes medicine really well, like doesn’t try to push it out of his mouth… And he’s killing me with this sleep thing. He won’t eat more than 4 ounces at a time, and sleeps for 3 hours, 4 hours max, and that’s if I’m lucky. I’m so tired. My Mom says that she started feeing us solid food at 3 months, and I know it was different then, and I know it can cause constipation, but his poop is really runny anyway and Mom says it might firm it up a little. I dunno, I’m torn, on one hand I’m like let’s try it and if he gets stopped up we’ll just stop, and on the other I’m like what’s another month?

My friends newborn is sleeping 3 hours at a time, and I’m like, ugh that’s where Cayden’s at, it’s not fair!

22 12 2008
lara21167

Clo I started my son on cerial about 4 months. He wouldn’t take it by spoon. So other mothers I knew told me to make it runny and put it in a bottle, take a knife and cut the hole in the bottle a bit bigger. Worked great. The doc didn’t recommend doing this said gas could get in his belly. But I didn’t have any problems. And I know I started Kristy on it sooner. It does help them sleep better.

Witchy/Gabber what do you think?

22 12 2008
Witchypoo

Hi, Ladies. I didn’t start my guys on any type of solid until about 4 1/2 months. Heath was even a little later, since he didn’t have any interest for a while, (he nursed A LOT, though). My pediatrician told me that they don’t encourage introducing solids until at least 4 months or so because sometimes the baby’s digestive systems aren’t quite ready for it, yet. So, I just followed that advice. My older spawn are driving me crazy because they’re bickering over everything, and Beau is acting like a big baby right now, (yes, I know, males are all just overgrown boys, anyway…but it’s still getting on my nerves right now). Mini-spawn got caught perched up on the second floor banister, happily swinging his legs out over a HUGE drop. He thinks he’s related to Curious George, or something…able to swing from high places. So, we spent a few minutes explaining why he could get badly hurt if he fell; I still get the impression that he thinks he’s related to George the monkey, though. Grrrrr…..

Take care.

P.S….Lara, that’s GREAT about your pussycat of a son being home for the holidays; you deserve to be really happy, Sweetie. Enjoy!

22 12 2008
Clo

Guess who just rolled over from his tummy to his back all by himself!

22 12 2008
Janey

Clo-you must be sooooo excited!!! lol

sooo i just had the best dinner ever made by my incredible boyfriend who thought food was the only to say sorry for his behavior.
we went for a stroll in central park cause its super pretty when it snows. and the were walkig and talkin and holding hands and some guys walked by us and said something about my ass and Ezi got real mad and said something to the guy and the started arguing and i just walked back to the car and waited for him to be done. then he got back to the car and was like sorry babe. and i refused to speak to him until we got home. the we fought i told him he was acting childish. he said how i mention that not everyone that looks at me wants to get into my pants he said yes they do i and i said it doesnt mean that i want them to and you need to stop acting like i do. then he made me this incredible dinner hoping i would forget it buuut i didnt and we’re not done arguing. =[

22 12 2008
Janey

if that doesnt make sense im sorry =[

22 12 2008
Janey

madd typos and i just realized that what i got from this was
“Why am i always cooking if he can cook this good?”

23 12 2008
Witchypoo

Yup, Janey…don’t feel like you’re the only one who has to put up with that type of jealous behavior; it’s actually pretty typical. Men have that biological urge to be possessive of what’s “their’s”; it really is partly ingrained in them – an instinct. The good news is that the older they get, generally the more civilized they behave. Once guys get beyond their mid – late 20’s, the ones with reasonable intelligence start to behave with a little more social savvy – a little more subtlety. In other words, they don’t go around practically pounding their chests chanting, “ME TARZAN, YOU JANE!”….at least, not out loud. I don’t believe they ever REALLY get over that primal urge to drag you off by the hair, (figuratively, of course), away from all the other “apes” who might try to steal you away. But, as long as you don’t have to put up with all the posturing and aggression, it doesn’t really matter what they’re thinking, right? Hahaha…like I said, men are just boys underneath; try to cut him a break, Sweetie.

23 12 2008
Janey

Witchy, i get what you’re saying but what i got out of that
was that it wasnt really about the guy. i took as the fact that
i dont think he trusts me. if he trusted me-really, truely trusted me, he wouldnt care about what the guy said becase he would know that i would pay attention to him. he knows that even after what happen with that girl, i would never cheat on him. i would never even think about it. in fact i should be the one not trusting here and i do. i do trust him. but whatever. im taking Oreo and goin home tonight. he can keep himself warm.

23 12 2008
Clo

Janey, like I just told you on myspace, it most likely has nothing to do with you. It’s like a toddler with their toy. Someone else even LOOKS at it, and instantly they snatch it up and yell “MINE”. They just want everyone to know that it’s theirs, that’s all. It’s annoying and childish, yes, but he’s not saying “my girlfriends a slut, I gotta watch her every second or she’ll cheat.” He trusts you, just not other guys. And I know that doesn’t really make sense, but, most of what guys do doesn’t make sense. But, I mean, if I knew another girl was talking about how sexy and hot Jeremy was and how she wanted to bang him and stuff, I’d get kinda upset too. Plus, it’s kinda disrespectful when you see a couple out together and choose to make a comment about one of them.

23 12 2008
Witchypoo

That’s right, Cloey…you phrased it EXACTLY how I was thinking it while trying to talk to Janey. It’s not that he doesn’t trust you; he just feels the need to let the other guy know that you and he are a couple. Also, it IS very disrespectful to flirt with/come-on-to someone who is clearly with someone, already; Ezi was probably pissed about that. It’s good that you still trust him, and don’t worry about/dwell on what happened with that desperate girl who was making herself so available to your boyfriend. Becoming suspicious and/or insecure about your partner is not exactly the way to keep your relationship happy and healthy; plus, it’s just not good for YOU, more than anything else. Good for you, Sweetie.

Cloey, so Cayden turned over all on his own, hugh? Pretty exciting…I remember when Heathness did that for the first time: we were all walking back and forth through the family room where he was on a blanket on the carpet, under his baby gym. Each of us thought that one of the others had turned him over. We were like, “No, I didn’t turn him over…I thought YOU did.” It was funny. Once they start, they love to keep doing it – a little taste of independence. Pretty amazing.

So, my smartass husband gleefully informed me that I spelled MARSHALL ARTS wrong…it’s supposed to be MARTIAL ARTS, (I used to know that, too…somehow I “forgot”). Anyway, he thinks it’s funny, since I’m always correcting his spelling/grammar. He occasionally reads what we say here, I guess…not that I mind either way.

Hey, Lara…what’s your myspace url again? My oldest spawn, Beau, is going to help me put some pictures in the spot you made. Hey, maybe you can post some pictures of you and your son, now that he’s home for the holidays, (and Kristy and your hubby, also, of course, if you want).

My mini-spawn is hounding me for a “snack”…nevermind that we ate dinner, then he had a bowl of ice cream on top of that – he’s hungry again.

Nightie-night, and take care.

23 12 2008
Janey

witchy, yea i still trust him. i didnt for a while but then i was like whtever if he messes up again he knows that he isnt gettng another chance so whtever. let him be. lol i told him i was going home and taking Oreo and he was sad. he didnt want Oreo to go with me. lol but i stayed its all good now.
thanks girls

ps. i was just telling Clo that i put some pix of Ezi on my myspace that would prolly get me killed if he found out they were on there lol but he hates myspace and doesnt have one so0o0o that takes care of that

23 12 2008
lara21167

You know that really gets me when guys are that disrespectful to say something about a girls rear end when she’s clearing with someone. Some guys, and Janey Cloey and Witchy are right it’s not about trusting you, it’s the possession thing. I remember once when my husband and I were dating, we went to a bar. I went to the jukebox and was bent over looking for what I wanted to hear. Some guy came up behind me and made a rude jesture. I didn’t even know, I just heard my husband yell across the bar at the guy and then the poor guy came running up to me scared to death saying “tell him I didn’t touch you, tell him I didn’t touch you!!” It was funny.

Congrats Cloey on Cayden rolling over, next thing you know he’ll be rolling all over the place lol.

Witchy it is myspace.com/lara21167

23 12 2008
Janey

Lara the situation you described sounds quite hilarious.
and i guess Clo was right its how they act but its annoying.
and i also get it i mean im not a big fan of the comments made by other
girls when he chooses to walk around without a shirt on but i dont really mind it cause i know he’s coming home with me no matter how appealing/available they make themselves to him, you know?

anyways last night we were having dinner and Ezi got up to get something to drink and guss who jumped on his chair and almost took a bite out of his plate? yup. it was quite a scene. but idk whats wrong with Oreo he doesnt really like to eat his food. sometmes we mix it with table food and then he might eat it but other than that he just picks at it. i have to take him to the vet on the 5th. he’s got a check up and he’s getting his rabbies[sp?] shot =[

23 12 2008
lara21167

They say not to give dogs any table scraps at all. Poor dogs… But I know what you are going through with Oreo. The little dog we had that we had to give away 😦 my daughter and I had her soooo spoiled she wouldn’t touch her dog food. I finally had to make her go with no table scraps just her dog food. She went almost a week before she finally started eating the dog food. But I was afraid she wasnt’ getting enough nutrition. We had her so spoiled she wouldn’t drink milk unless it had sugar in it, because we’d give her left over cerial we didn’t eat, you know the sweetened kind and she was a sugar freak. Like she needed that, she was sooo hyper as it was lol

23 12 2008
Janey

i LOVE the Oxygen channel!!!
all day Bad Girls Club Marathon!!!

23 12 2008
lara21167

Sounds like you are haveing fun being snowed in Janey!! Wish I was snowed in 😦

23 12 2008
Janey

i am having fun lol

23 12 2008
lara21167

I have a question, my son always looks like a little lost puppy dog when he’s home. He watches me with nothing short of adoration in his eyes. Why is that? I know he regrets his choice to go and live with his dad, now grandmother. I know he misses the family setting my home has compared with his grandmother’s. Oh I wish I’d put my foot down and said NO when he and his father talked to me about him moving in with him. He was 10 and I think he felt more “grown up” with his father. And I thought he was old enough to make that choice. Oh well can’t change the past.

23 12 2008
Clo

Janey- They sell this stuff at pet stores called “dog gravy” or something that you pour over their food. My dogs seemed to like it. What kinda food do you have him on? It may just been too hard for his teeth, or too big. I know when we were fostering the puppy (we were going to keep him, but then I found out I was pregnant and thought a puppy and a baby was too much at once.) Anyway he was REALLY little, and so we had to feed him this stuff that came from the frozen food case at kroger (grocery store up here). It was dog food, but it was really soft.

Lara- Maybe it’s kinda good that he realizes his mistake… I mean I know it must be hard for you, and you both miss each other, and it must be really sad for you to see him like that when he’s there… But maybe now he has an appreciation for family/his Mom that a lot of kids don’t learn until much later. If that makes any sense. Doesn’t he graduate soon?

Cayden rolling over- I’m pretty sure was an accident, lol. But, i’m still really proud, and they say that’s how it starts. They do it a couple times accidentally, and then they figure out how to do it on their own. He also only flipped from his belly to his back, but again, they say that’s how it starts as well. So, I’m proud. We did start him on cereal…. I know all the things that CAN happen, but… I mea he was showing all the signs of being ready… He showed an interest in my food, he’s a bigger guy, he can sit supported and has excellent head control… And he even ate it from a spoon and didn’t do that tongue reflex that babies are supposed to have. He pooped this morning too, so it hasn’t seemed to affect his digestion… Yet at least.

And an update on my friend Cindy, the one who called me selfish? She was supposed to come over last Monday, and nada. She said she got stuck at work when I emailed her later, but her blog said she was shopping. Then she claimed she was shopping online, but I’m like… So you got stuck at work but still had time to shop online? And, I mean, even if all that’s true, she didn’t let me know that she was stuck at work… So then she apologized for that, and I figured anyone can make a mistake so I let it go. She told me she had to go to a Christmas party and would text me when she was done. Didn’t get a text. So I called her the next day, and I hear that she’s at a store but she says she’s at her sisters and would call me when she’s done… Annnnnd she didn’t call. So, then I text her Friday with my new number, and still don’t hear anything back. So I wrote her an email telling her I was done, and I didn’t have time for people to keep blowing me off, and I understood that things come up, but it’s rude to make plans and break them without so much as a text message… Especially since everyone wants to see Cayden right now. We’re always busy with someone these days. So then she emails me that she’s so sorry and wants to make it up to me, and can we hang out that night? Only like I said, we’re crazy busy and we were headed over to see Natalie and Brice. So I tell her this, and she says OK, I’m off Tuesday, can I come over about 2? I say OK, but that we have plans for dinner with Jeremy’s parents (we don’t, but I like having a cut off time, you know?) Well, I got a text about 1/2 hour ago saying she has to go to the doctor, and she’ll call me when she’s done. How much you want to bet she doesn’t call, or if she does, it’ll be after the time I told her it was “too late” to hang out?

I’m so done.

23 12 2008
Witchypoo

Hi, SweetLara…how’s it going? You know, Sweetie, it’s never too late to make changes. Why don’t you ask your son if he wants to come back and live with you again while attending whatever type of program he enrolls in after college? Maybe he just needs the extra reassurance that it won’t be an imposition for you, or anyone else in your household. Even if you think he already knows this…he still might require a little extra reassurance, you know? I doubt he gets the kind of motherly attention wherever he is currently living that he receives from you – you can’t replace a mother’s love, (especially if she’s sweet and loving…which I have the impression you are). An affectionate, warm-hearted young man will adore a mother who dotes on him a little; it’s no wonder your son looks at you with “adoring puppy-dog eyes”.

24 12 2008
Janey

oh God!
im sooooo TiRED!!!!
i couldnt sleep last night and now im tired,
cranky, sleep deprived =[

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