Keepers Surprise

30 03 2009

I didn’t want to retype this one out, so I am copy/pasting from a pet message board I belong to.

Yesterday was Keepers first instinct test. The ranch was awesome! She didn’t take to the grown sheep but as soon as she was in the lamb pen, super herding came out.

OK so she wasn’t perfect and tended to corner a little black lamb, but she gathered really well and seemed to love it!

Since it was a bit pricey to do the test we decided to wait on Fred since he is a bit more ADD and we figured Keeper would take to it naturally with her soccer background (pics to come).

After the herding test we went to the park for an hour or so, so Fred could run around and chase things. We played ball with Keeper and Fetch (stick) with Fred. Dropped them off at home and went grocery shopping.

We got home a few hours later and it looked like Keeper had slipped the comforter off and burrowed on the bed. We thought it was adorable… But Fred was acting strange… hidding in corners and slinking around. I thought he had to go potty bad so I ran outside with him quickly while Ape brought our bags in….

And as Im coming back he comes running yelling for me…he said something crazy happened and I jokingly said… what, did keeper have a puppy or something.

UHHH YEA! I get upstairs and there is a single puppy and a huge wet spot on the bed… we freaked for half a second before callin a friend who had delivered kittens once and started prepping a nest, researching dog labor, looking around for other puppies, etc. As soon as our friend got to the house we rushed over to the e-clinic (we figured it had to have been close to 2 hours and no new pup). They did an xray and there were no other puppies, so on top of our dog SUDDENLY giving birth, there was only one!

We’re going to keep her. We named her Layla and mom is being really good.

So that is where we are now. Layla is two days old today.

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30 03 2009
janey

OMG.! that is crazyyy.!
but the puppu looks adorable and
im glad keeper is ok. did the people from where
you got her even know that she was preggo?

30 03 2009
Clo

lol, that’s so awesome. We used to get pregnant gerbils all the time, but that’s a little different. So cute. And congrats on the other info as well! I’ll talk to you on myspace.

30 03 2009
monkeyspeaks

nope! no one knew she was pregs. but yea, everyone is diong well.

although my stress levels are shooting up because now we have the puppy and im STILL late (8 days today). BUT im hoping the two negatives were correct and im just not getting it because of stress/screwing up my BC last month.

Normally I keep it in for three weeks (im on the ring) and then take it out the fourth and AF visits. BUT my doc in florida told me I could skip my cycles if i wanted to and so i kept it in an extra week before getting frustrated with the worlds longest cycle (i thikn after the seventh day i said screw it) and took it out so my cycle LAST month (end of Feb) lasted almost two weeks if not two weeks.

I dont know…. i pray this is just stress.

Ive been on BC since i was 13 also (i didnt have it in last month though because i had screwed up and didnt want to throw my body of fmore) and i always haerd it could take up to 6 months for you to get preg after going off.

man guys. im really worried

30 03 2009
janey

itll be fine.
just relax. i know its easier said than done but if u
stop thinking about it u might get it. if u still hjavent gotten it in
say three days u should consider what clo said and go get a blood test

30 03 2009
lara21167

First Congrats on the pup, that’s weird she only had the one. Maybe she had previously misscarried and no one knew. This is gross but my old neighbor had a pure bred pug she wanted to bread. She got preggers had the pups, and before they could stop her, she ate every last one. They have no idea why.

About your other problem. Do as Cloey said, get the blood test, shouldn’t cost that much and you’ll know for sure, they are very acurate.

And the pup is adorable.

30 03 2009
lara21167

Oh and Rowdy I saw Fred’s twin yesterday, I think it was. There was a couple walking a dog, and I thought, that dog looks just like Rowdy’s Fred. lol

30 03 2009
janey

ok so ive been out of the loop since wednesday.
whts been goin on on BB? i went on today and witchy’s comments were only showin up one at a time and it was really funny. but im completely lost cause i couldnt see the first page of comments. but anyways i g2g cause my boo is comin over and i need to spritz and sizzle.

o0o0o0o and i put pics on myspace finally if anyone wants to see

31 03 2009
lara21167

Janey just the normal bitchers complaining about our “chatting” on there!! Nothing new…

31 03 2009
lara21167

Oh and witchy is having problems commenting and now I am too. I’ve been trying to post Witchy’s update of the “Joey Chronicles” I got about have of it to post, now it won’t. Witchy I think they do have a thing against the “Joey Chronicles”!!

31 03 2009
lara21167

Janey you 2 look soooo happy together, I wish you both the best. And give us updates, It’ always fun to read about new love. (yes I’m a sappy romantic lol). Anyway I finally got my daughters Cheerleading Video on my myspace. I think I have dance and level 4 Cheer, Idk, check it out when you got time.

31 03 2009
WItchypoo

Goldie…yeah, I’d go get a blood test if I were in your position; if anything, just to set your mind at ease, you know?

Take care.

31 03 2009
janey

lol Lara
i will. he’s really sweet

1 04 2009
Clo

So Cayden’s been sleeping super crappy lately. We’ve regressed. We FINALLY got him in his crib, in his own room. The first week was OK, and then in all went to hell. So, last night, exhausted, I crashed at 6:30.

I woke up this morning early and feeling like I actually wanted to get up. Cayden got up, I fed him, got him dressed, and decided to take him for a walk (which is what I’ve been planning to do forever) Well, I decided I’d take our two dogs with me. So out we all go. Our complex isn’t really made for walking, it’s all parking lot, which didn’t really make me feel super safe with two dogs and a stroller, so I headed out into the neighborhood. Now, this is my first time walking the neighborhood. Whenever we’ve walked Cayden before we’ve taken him to a nearby park. And the dogs are little dogs, so they usually get their exercise in the front yard, or they go with us to the park.

So I get out there, only to realize that in order to get to the neighborhood, I have to walk in the street- there are no sidewalks. I decided no way jose, not with two dogs and a baby. I didn’t feel like I could control the dogs and the watch for cars and push the stroller. So I head home, and am bummed, because I actually made an attempt to exercise and it was thwarted. We sit out back for a little bit, I go to go inside. I let the dogs in first, then turn around to get the stroller. While I’m doing this, one of our cats run out. I go to grab her, forgetting to tell the dogs “stay”. They bolt out the door. Usually when they do this, they chase each other in the yard for a minute, and then come back in the house. Nope, not this time. They took off. And when I called for them? Made NO signs of coming back.

I started after them, but then remembered I had the baby, and that hubby was at work and there was no one to leave the baby with. So I screamed for the dogs and then called my husband (I couldn’t take the baby in the stroller as the ground around our complex is pretty uneven.) He says just to go inside, that they’ll be back. So I do. Five minutes later, I hear scratching on the door. I open it up, and there’s Tater, but no Louie. Now I’m worried, they usually stick together, and I know without Tater, Louie isn’t going to come back (he’s probably not going to know where to come back too). So I take the baby out, and trudge around, calling him name and looking EVERYWHERE. Half an hour later, I find him clear across the complex, next to some dog someone left tied up on their back porch. I call him, he runs over, I pick him up and start carrying him, but I can’t carry him and Cayden at the same time. So, I drop him, and he starts to follow me back home. We’re right by our place when he runs around another building. I figured he’d come back the other side. No such luck. So I run in the house, grab the leash, and go back out. I walk around for another 1/2 hour, lugging Cayden with me. Finally, about to give up, I spot him, clear on the end of the complex again. I grab him, leash him up, bring him home.

1 04 2009
janey

awww i would have been soooo scared, clo.!

so i got into a huge fight with my best friends and now
i think we r not friends anymore. so i basically cried until
i fell asleep. I called Stephon but he was sleepin nd he turns his phone off.
so ive been sleeping all day and i just woke up

1 04 2009
lara21167

Cloey, well you got your exercise lol. Ginger slipped out of her collar the other day and ran into the parking lot and stopped. I just said “Ginger get back here” and she ran right back to me. I like to take her walks through our neighborhood outside our apartment complex, but there are sidwalks all through there, she’s been pulling so damn hard, I mean she’ll be next to me, and just take off running till she gets to the end of the leash and gets hanked back, about pulling my arm out of socket. and she pulls hard while walking to the point of getting choked. I didn’t want to get a harness, because I wanted her to learn to walk with me properly, well hell, I think she’d choke herself to death first, so I looked for a harness this weekend, but didn’t find any reasonably priced, so Walmart bound I guess. I also need a leash, as hers is chewed up so bad. I’m a cat person btw, I love dogs but cats are sooo much easier πŸ™‚ Except when they run out the door and start all kinds of comotion lol.

Janey, fighting with friends is like fighting with boyfriends, just let things go, until you are both ready to talk.

Ok, I’m going to quit smoking, seriously, they are up to close to $7.00/pack and I’m out of coupons. Forget it, I’m not paying that much. don’t know what hubby’s going to do, I’m not buying them for him either. Plus I need to, I just know I will feel a lot better physically if I do. Soooo wish me luck. No helpful drugs or anything, just doing it. Well except for xanax, which I take anyway lol

1 04 2009
janey

she is bein stupid.
we r fighting because i asked her not to start drinking.
she just wants to do it to piss off her mom and i dnt think
tht is very healthy for her physically or mentally.
and she doesnt see why i think so. then she said tht i wasnt really her best friend cause i wasnt supportin her. im not going to support her with something that is going to end u hurting her.

1 04 2009
lara21167

Sounds like you are supporting her Janey, I’m sure she’ll come around.

2 04 2009
monkeyspeaks

Janey – Fights are inevitable. Especially at your age. I know that can come off as condescending but you guys are at an age where hormones are tapering off and you are still learning to control emotions and everything so they tend to be a bit more exaggerated than normal. Not that you didn’t stand up for something great, but the way you handle yourself after a fight worries me. You said you spent the whole night crying and the whole day sleeping. Thats REALLy unhealthy behaviour, especially for just a fight. Fights are going to happen for the rest of your life – between your friends, your family and probably even stephen. Locking yourself up only stresses you out nore and solves NOTHING. I suggest after a fight taking a deep breath, walking away from the situation and just go about your life. When you are calm and she is calm you will come back together and work it out. But honestly this whole “we were best friends but now we arent because we had a fight” is a bit juevenile on both of your parts. You dont just stop being someones friend because of a disagreement. Write down your concerns, tell her you aren’t opposed to her making a decision for herself but you can only support if for the right reasons. And stop locking yoursel fup in your room and crying. Its harmful to you.

Clorida – That is hilarious. I mean not IN the moment. In the moment its absolutely HORRIFYING. Fred used to run away all the time. Hed escape from the house (its a BC tendency) and take off into the woods which I was terrified uf because of snakes and spiders and Id have to go through thick parts of forest and swamp and hed wait till i was JUST close to him and then TAKE OFF. It drove me nuts… now i look back and it and laugh… but I think you were a rockstar the way you handled the situation.

Lara – Harnesses aren’t bad! They basically help you control the dog while you are training them… so using it as a training tool is just fine. Don’t worry it doesn’t mean you’ll be using it forever…. and even if you do its not so bad… she’ll learn to walk near you.

Here is some training advice if you want. Use the harness OR look into a muzzle lead. Its not a full muzzle but fits over her snout… you use it WITH a normal leash. When she pulls her head will pull up with the muzzle lead and she wont be able to see so she’ll stop pulling until she CAN see. It teaches her that if she pulls, she cant go anywhere but if she walks normally she can go bout where she wants.

ALSO… carry a small bag of treats (I personally prefer bits of chicken off the bone or dehydrated chicken liver… but the mr. and I are generally nuerotic about what we feed the dogs and have them on an all raw diet… no kibble… just raw chicken on bone with some innards… chicken on bone is ok for dogs ONLY WHEN it is UNCOOKED… and yes dogs can eat raw food… they were designed to… they have the same stomache as wolves, even little ones). ANyway bck to training. Carry a small bag of treats with you…TINY treats. I want you to hold Ginger on a short lease (wind it around your hand so her head cant go farther than YOU) and treat her while you walk (keep feeding her treats). Basically create an invisible box and keep her there. Do this for like 5 minutes… just walking and treating and say your “command” word as you go. Like “heel” or “Here” or “Chill” whatever word you want but chose one and stick with it. Slowly release tension but ONLY treat her when she walks in the “box.” The basic idea behind this is the dog learns when it walks where you want it to walk it is rewarded. If she pulls “BARK” at her (a shar AHHH AHH!) and give her a little yank. If you have to pull in the leash again and start over. Just keep u pwith this cycle… eventually she’ll walk next to you.

You can do this with a whistle too. Start off in the house and Whistle and the treat the dog after every whistle. KEEP DOING TIHS until she associates the sound of the whistle with a treat. Start walking around the house and use the whistle (when she isn’t near you) and treat her everytime she responds to the whistle by coming to you. When you have this down take the whistle on a walk with you. Whistle and treat her when she is in “her box” next to you. Do what I suggested up there but with the whistle intead of the command word. Eventually you’ll be able to just use the whistle and she’ll heel the way you want her to. It takes work… lots of it.. but this trick works really well because it becomes more of a game for her.

2 04 2009
monkeyspeaks

http://www.premier.com/

There is a link to what I am talking about. Its called a Gentle Leader I think because it GENTLY stops the dog from pulling πŸ™‚ haha.

Also a harness the straps under the belly and around the chest CAN help with control…. it basically helps you control the force beacuse its easier to hold them around their chest than their neck… but id say go for the gentle lead.

They range from 10-30 I think.

2 04 2009
monkeyspeaks

AND its not a muzzle… if you see in the picture ginger will be able to do whatever she wants in it…except pull you lol

2 04 2009
WItchypoo

Goldie…wow, you really know a lot about training dogs. Btw…very good advice for Janey; Sweetie, (Janey), a true friendship will weather a lot more than a fight, or disagreement. Don’t be too upset, or cry your poor eyes out, hunny; things will work out. Try to keep situations in perspective, and spend your time, (and emotions), on people who tend to stay on an even keel.

Take care

P.S…Cloey, I know you had a terrible day, but reading about it reminds me of a comedy of errors; you’re a good sport.

2 04 2009
Clo

And Janey, like I said before, as hard as it is, sometimes you have to let people make their own mistakes. I know it’s hard. I had a friend who drank and took a bunch of pills. They were hanging out in a park. His heart stopped, and everyone with him was too scared to call 911. So, instead they called someone’s mom who was a nurse, and let her come get him, even though it cost him a lot of time. Luckily he was OK. However, a couple weeks later, he was hanging out with the same friend that was in the park (she swore up and down that she was totally sorry for what happened, how it was a mistake, she was just fucked up and all this other crap.) Yet that night she once again gave him alcohol to drink, and pills. Now, I’m a big fan of people are gonna do what they do, however I had to go off on her. If she was so sorry the first time it all went down, why would she make it readily available the second time? Anyway, she’s not the point of the story. He called me, crying, to come get him because he was scared he was going to die again. I did, took him to the hospital, where he then got really pissed at me for taking him there and was just mean in general. I tried for awhile to get him to go into rehab, but dealing with as many alcoholics as I have (my mom and uncle are two recovering alcoholics, my aunt is still drinking, and I have two uncles that died from it, one commited suicide, one died from… I don’t know how to spell it but it’s where your liver gets really hard.) I just let him go. Point blank: you can’t make anyone do anything. Sometimes they have to learn for themselves, other times they just don’t care enough to learn. I know it’s hard, but the only thing you can control is whether or not you want to be around it, if you don’t, then leave her alone. And if you do, then you pretty much just have to let her make her own choices. You can say “I don’t think that’s a good idea” but it’s pretty much up to her whether she decides to go through with it.

Anyway, my day just got worse, lol. We went out to dinner with my in laws. And while my MIL HAD been behaving herself, not so much anymore.

My FIL went to leave the tip on the table. She said “No George, hand it to the guy!” And then looked very obviously at a black woman sitting near us, as if to infer she’d steal it. Yeah, I bet she would. She looks like she really wants that 8 dollars.

Then, she’s giving Cayden an Easter basket. Which just ticks me off. Because I don’t think she’s doing it because she WANTS to do it. She made NO mention of Easter or a basket until she saw mine. Then a day later she calls and asks me what kind of baby food Cayden’s eating. When I asked her why she said “I’m putting it in his easter basket”

Ugh. But OK, at least she’s buying us things we need, like baby food. Nope, she tells us today that she got him something from toys r us, and that it has to stay at her house because it’s “Really big”

This ticks me off for a couple of reasons. One: She’s bought a lot of toys to keep at her house. Which I think is dumb because he’s been over at their house maybe twice since he’s been born. They’re going to waste, he’s never going to play with them. And two: why does she need to buy him this huge easter present? I feel like she’s honestly just trying to one up me, and it ticks me off.

Then they want us to go to Babies r us with them. They want to buy a car seat and a high chair. OK, whatever, I kinda get it. They’ve been talking about having a cookout, so they want something for him to sit in while he’s there. The car seat? Is a stretch. But maybe they want it in case of an emergency, if I have an issue and need to go to the hospital and can’t get ahold of Jeremy or whatever.

So I suggest this cheap model. All car seats are the same safety-wise. They all go through the same tests. Some are easier to install, easier to use, or have more padding. But all in all, they’re the same. Nope, they want the same model we have. Ours is a 200 dollar car seat. Why the HELL do they need to spend that much? “Well, we want to take a trip with you guys down to Uncle Bills” still, that’s an hour away, and I bet we’ll go like once, if that. Buy the 30 dollar seat, spend some extra money in padding, and let it go.

Then the high chair. Jeremy points out this 40 dollar model. The only thing it doesn’t have that they want is wheels. But no, they want to buy the 150 dollar version. He hasn’t eaten over there EVER, and I don’t know how often he will! Then I found a 60 dollar wooden hair chair, which is ALL my MIL could talk about wanting at first. But no, they’re still stuck on this 150 dollar high chair.

I know, it’s their money, but it just irritates the FUCK out of me. They know we’re struggling right now money wise, with Jeremy just starting his new job. Yet they don’t want to spend money on things we actually need, like diapers or formula. Oh, no, they want to spend 350 dollars on a highchair and car seat. When they could just spend 70 dollars and have pretty much the same thing! And then the toys they buy they keep at their house. Why? I don’t know. I mean we don’t go over there, and I can’t remember the last time they invited me over.

And the whole Easter Basket thing? I was going to let it go. Just give him my basket first, so I could at LEAST say I gave him his first basket. But now they want us to come over next week so they can give it to him. Because my FIL isn’t off for easter.

I know maybe I sound like a big baby and you guys are just like “so what?” but Cayden’s my first. And I feel like I went through an awful lot to bring him here. And I’m the one who gets up with him at night, and then takes care of him all day long, I feed him, I bathe him, I change blow out poopy diapers. I’ve been peed on, pooped on, spit up on, drooled on. And I KNOW that’s a part of being a parent. But I think the other part of being a parent is to be rewarded with being able to know that you were involved in a lot of your childs firsts. Before we know it he’s going to be all grown up, and there are many firsts that I’m NOT going to be involved in. First kiss, first time falling in love, his OWN first baby (well, I may be a little involved in that, as a grandparent, but not in the same way, and certainly not in the making of that child.) I think as of now I should be able to give him all his firsts.

And I’m hesitant to let her give him the firsts that I don’t really care about. Because I have a feeling she’ll just rub it in my face. She already does it with everything else. I hear over and over again how his middle name is Howard and how it’s after her Dad, and I dunno. She doesn’t say it in a proud, thankful way. It’s almost in a “I own him” kinda way. And she always follows that up with “He looks just like Jeremy, exactly like him, he’s an Erwin through and through.” And with all that together it just really sounds like she’s trying to say he’s not a part of me. I know I sound paranoid, but my sister heard it and even she asked me if it bothered me because of HOW she said it.

I dunno. I’m being really vindictive and immature too, lol. I’ve already picked out a name if we have a little girl, and it’s middle name is going to be after my Mom, just to see what she has to saw about that.

2 04 2009
janey

okay. so i called my friend we talked it out she said she was sorry she ddint mean it and tht she just wanted to get back at her mom. she said she should always listen to me anyways. and i cried because i was frustrated with her and she did say some hurtful things but, its hard to care about someone tht much and for them not realize tht youre not just birching to bitch but because you care. she said she cried too and she was mad tht she couldnt call me because i was mad at her it was funny in a way cause i was thinkin the same thing. and i should explain why was sleepin all day. ive been im my depression pill fr about a month and some change and i never really had a side effect to it cause it gave me a lot of energy and i was out late all time so i ddint really think wasnt sleepin well. but since friday ive been stayin in and trying to go to bed but i just cant sleep. i fall alseep around 4 or 5 in the morning and i have to be up by 7 to do things. so i told my doctor yesterday and she prescribed some sleeping pills that i could take. i have to pick them up tomorrow. so basically it just all caught up with me today plus i was stressed out cause of the argument so i slept.

2 04 2009
janey

oh and i forgot to mention. there is this site called fmylife.com
its totally hilarious.! its has some crazy stories about ppl who do
stupid things and its just. really funny. check it out and let me kno
if you guys like it. Stephon told me to go on it today and i spent like
two hours on my computer just laghin until my tummy hurt :]

2 04 2009
lara21167

Thanks Rowdy, I may try that muzzle lead thing, will she be able to sniff if she stays in the “box” she likes to sniff, being a beagle. It’s funny when she picks up a scent, she’ll be following it and suddenly turn completely around trying to head back the other way. The other thing she’s been doing is “attacking” my daughter and me, mostly my daughter, and I mean she’s playing but too aggressively. Now I can calm her easier than my daughter can. I’ve found if I stand still and tell her to sit very sternly, she’ll sit, just for a few seconds, but she’ll calm down. So I told my daughter when she gets home from school to work with her with doing tricks. We’ve been working on “shake” and “stay”. That should help with the hyperness. I’ve also been suggesting to my hubby that he take her out into the woods behind our apartment and let her sniff out “game” they’d both enjoy that. My hubby is reminding me more and more of Andy Capp, the comic strip, can’t get him to do much of anything anymore. I know he’s suffering depression. I don’t have insurance on him because I’d have to pay for him and it’s too much. But we have a free clinic I’m trying to get him to go to. Except for doing odd jobs here and there, he’s been out of work for over 2 years now. That will get to you after a while.

Janey glad to hear you and your friend made up.

Cloey, I think if I were you I’d tell my MIL you guys are busy and can’t make it over before Easter, whatever to put off her giving Cayden her basket before you do. I know exactly what you mean that you want to give him his first Easter Basket. My MIL can be like that with toys and/or clothes. Even with Kristy but Kristy always spent time there and her youngest son’s babies, she keeps them alot. Even though sometimes I think she says something stays at her house just to be spiteful. The stuff will get used. Unlike your MIL. Who just wants things to have them. And spend too much on stuff that’s not going to be used. Bet she has freinds come over and shows off her baby “stuff” like she has him alot. Btw, I think you handle her like a Rock Star, (like witchy said about the dogs getting out)

2 04 2009
Clo

It’s hard to handle her like a rock star cuz I have all these things in my head that I want to say.
The thing that really gets me is that she admits that she had NO idea about babies or how to take care of them, and then constantly questions what I’m doing. And then if I say something like “Oh, well the pedi told me to do it” she says “well are you sure she’s a good pedi?”

Nope. I just found her on the street. I mean, she was talking to herself and shooting up, but she SAID she was a doctor, so it must be true, right? Like c’mon lady.

And then she goes on to try to big me into giving him real food. We were at a buffet yesterday, and she was like “Can’t he have a little dessert?” and I was like “Nope.” “Oh, c’mon, just a little ice cream?” Um, one: Babies are not supposed to have cows milk till they’re a year, so I’m not sure about anything with milk even in it. Secondly, I’m overweight. Jeremy is overweight. My Mother was overweight, his parents? Both severely overweight with diabetes. Do I REALLY need to start my 6 month old on ice cream?

Then there’s the “He’s cold” argument, which I SWEAR would happen in 90 degree weather. “He’s cold. I think he’s cold. Do you think he’s cold?” “He’s fine.” “I dunno, he feels awfully cold.” “Mary Anne, his hands are ALWAYS cold. Just like Jeremy’s hands. It’s a circulation thing, plus he sticks his fingers in his mouth all the time. I can’t do anything about that.” “Well I think he’s cold.” “He’s fine.” Repeat this 20 times. Seriously.

Then I told you guys how not too long ago she said I “needed” to have another baby and “soon” because they weren’t going to be around forever so “Get on it. And make sure it’s a girl.”

I could go on and on. I would feel so much better if I just got to punch her in her face. Just one time. I promise.

I’m also highly frustrated today because Cayden is sleeping horribly again, and I’m just so done with it. It’s like we get enough regular sleep to get used to it, and then he starts back up again, throwing me off completely.

Last week we got him in his room, in his bed. He was waking up 3 times a night. Which, is actually semi normal. We were looking to cut one time out, because when he woke the first and last time, he wanted to eat, but the middle time he just wanted to be awake. However, last week he was also being super clingy in the evenings, and just wanted to be held all day, which isn’t really like him. He cried when Jeremy’s parents came over (which, who can blame him?) but I chalked it up to either teething, growth spurt, stranger aniexty, or maybe a little of all three.

Well, he’s not sleeping anymore. Monday we moved him into our bed, because he woke up every hour and I got tired of it. When he fell deeply asleep, I moved him back to his bed. He woke up again at four, and we were so tired back into our bed he went. Tuesday, after he showed the same pattern (he went down at 10, got up at 11, then again at midnight) we moved him into our bed.I was too tired to fight him. Last night I was determined not to move him into our bed. He woke up at 11, after going to bed at 9:30. He was crying, but the book I was trying said just to pat him and comfort him without picking him up. So I did. Still crying. We gave him tylenol, and while I know it can’t work that fast, no joke, the SECOND it hit his tongue he was out. One AM rolls around. He wakes up again. I go in, do the same thing. Only he starts crying REALLY really hard. The book says when he does this, to pick him up and rock him to a drowsy state. So, I go to do that. He starts SCREAMING. And the mothers on here know, there’s different crying for everything. And this was a “I’m in pain” cry. He continued crying even in our room, and it was so bad I called my mom because I was scared. He didn’t want to chew my finger like he normally does when his mouth hurts, we couldn’t give him more tylenol yet, his tummy wasn’t hard, and his gas drops didn’t work so I don’t think it was gas. He finally calmed down and went back to sleep, but I had to hold him all night. We tried switching to Daddy and it didn’t work. He slept pretty fitfully as well. Normally when he’s in our bed, he sleeps all night. Now today he’s fussy and clingy all over again. I went into the kitchen to get his breakfast and he freaked.

I don’t have a clue what’s wrong. I thought about calling the doctor but Jeremy says the only symptom we have is crying. There’s no fever or anything. I don’t think it’s an ear infection cause he’s eating normally, not pulling on his ears, and no fever.

2 04 2009
WItchypoo

Hi, Ladies. Hey, Cloey…I know that usually, an ear infection will produce a fever, but there’s times when it doesn’t, (especially if it’s not a full-blown infection, yet, and the eardrum is still inflamed and tender). Beau & Chance have both had that happen…and since I’ve always gone off to the pediatrician sooner rather than later, (especially with their asthma/allergy complications), we’ve caught ear “inflammations” in the earlier stages that haven’t produced fevers yet, but were still painful. Plus, the doctor told me that even a full-blown infection doesn’t always have to be accompanied by a fever. I don’t think any of my guys have really pulled on their ears as a symptom, either; appetite loss? Sometimes, sometimes not. Just having fluid buildup and inflammation can be really painful, though. I’m not implying that he has one – obviously I’d have no idea…just that traditional symptoms don’t always apply. Also, some babies just become REALLY frustrated and unsettled over teething pain, and being aware that crying produces comforting from responsive parents…they just react by persistent crying for periods of time. It’s VERY disturbing to have your baby go on & on though…obviously beside him/herself, with no way to really communicate clearly what’s wrong. Guessing and considering possible causes can be frustrating for mommies & daddies, also; you want to be able to settle on a DEFINITE root cause, so it can be dealt with. Maybe even just the timing of still getting really used to sleeping alone WHILE the fun of teething is in full swing is instigating the crying/clinging. Parenting…always a guessing game with so many issues. I’m a worrier where my loved ones are concerned…always have been. It drives me inwardly crazy sometimes trying to discern if there’s a problem present, what the possible solution could be, etc. I worry about health issues, (physical, emotional, and mental), social concerns, goal-oriented subjects, (grades, sports, future happiness, etc.), safety issues…you name it. I try to not dwell in the negative, since it doesn’t accomplish anything constructive, and only makes me fret. It can be very challenging at times, though…as I think you know. Sigh…ok, time for a subject change.

Janey, so you’re being treated for depression? That’s very good, since depression can be so destructive. It sounds like you’re trying to keep yourself on track; sleep is definitely important for keeping your emotional/mental health in balence. I’m not as happy as usual if my sleep patterns are disturbed for too long at a time; serious lack of quality sleep throws off everything. Try hard to stay in touch, (with us, as well as other people in your life), so that you don’t allow yourself to become too isolated. Being cut-off from the world too much can mess up your whole perspective. Tiring of my advice/instructions? Ok…just remember to keep reaching out to make contact, Sweetie.

Oh, yeah, Cloey…your MIL would seriously annoy the hell out of me. She really does sound like she’s “competing” for a central place in Cayden’s life, without having all the time and work invested that’s required to make that a reality. You seem very patient. Like Lara mentioned, I would DEFINITELY make up some excuse why you can bring Cayden over AFTER you’ve given him his basket, rather than before. You’re the mommie…you put in the time & worry…YOU fully deserve all the “firsts” you’re referring to. Don’t give in just because you feel awkward about coming up with a viable excuse; you don’t really need one. Hey, if nothing else works…you could just tell her plainly and truthfully: “We’re giving our son his first Easter basket FIRST, since it’s a very special event to us. Thank you for your thoughtful gesture/gifts for Cayden…what day after Easter would be good for us to bring him over?” What can she say that won’t make her sound like a complete horse’s ass if she argues about the timing? These petty annoyances are HER problem; let her deal with it. You’re not obligated to structure Cayden’s experiences around her selfish wishes.

Lara…it must be draining to watch your husband drift in a sustained depression. Does he have any prospects for a permanent job any time in the forseeable future? Is he able to talk to you about his problems at all? Men can feel defensive & helpless when they don’t have a “fix” for a situation…as I’m sure you’re well aware of. You probably feel pretty frustrated with the situation…maybe even a little trapped. I’m just making suppositions; I don’t really know how you feel about it. You don’t blow off much steam about it, though. If it helps you to “think out loud”, or whatever…by all means, flap your mouth, Girl. We’ll be happy to listen, (you know that, already, hugh?).

Goldie…how’s the darling puppy, (is her name Layla?), Keeper, and Frad, (is that his name?) doing? Does Frad seem to show any paternal/nurturing instincts toward the pup? Or, is he just baffled by it all?

Take care, Girls.

2 04 2009
Clo

I’ve heard that often times when they have an ear infection they’ll stop eating, because sucking on a bottle hurts (the whole change in pressure) My Mom’s convinced that he’s just teething/growing pains. But I asked for help on my baby center birth board, and a woman said her son was doing the same thing mine was, and it was always worst at night, and she chalked it up to teething. And when they took him into the pedi, he had a double ear infection, but no signs other than the crying.

I’m just at a loss at what to do. We don’t have insurance, and we’re scraping to pay this visit on Monday. So, I’m torn. Do I just wait till Monday and have the doctor look while we’re there? I mean, if it’s nothing, I’ll be glad I waited. But if it’s something? I’ll hate myself for having him be in pain for so long. It’s also hard because I don’t know if last night was a one time deal, or if it’ll happen again tonight. I mean the other nights he woke up, but last night was a screaming “something hurts” cry. And he didn’t sleep very well the rest of the nights. I mean, I guess I’m just going to wait till tonight. If something happens, I’ll try to get in tomorrow. If it doesn’t, then maybe it was just a one time thing.

I did, however, solve the easter basket dilemma. Jeremy starts his new work schedule next week…. Well, kinda. He’ll normally have Thursday and Sundays off. My FIL has Wednesday and Thursday off. But next week Jeremy’s just switching to the hours he normally works. Not the days. So he’ll be working Monday-Friday 1-10, and we won’t be able to see them πŸ™‚

2 04 2009
lara21167

Witchy, from Rowdy had said, sounds like Fred was scared to death by the whole thing lol.

Cloey, I think I’d call the Pedi, i mean it’s probably the teething, and you can try baby ambesol (sp?) that sometimes helps. But like Withcy said sometimes an ear infection has no noticible symptoms. I’ve heard of people whose babies temperatures just shot up suddenly to scary points, or even making them have fever seisures because of an ear infection the parent had no clue the baby had. And it never hurts just to call.

One more thing about depression Janey, and you may already have this covered. When we first got to “know” each other, you had all these plans and goals. And I know things happened and everything has changed. Now is the time to start making new plans and goals. I think that is one of the best cures for depression, I really do. You always hear this people saying “oh I can’t work, I have depression” The best thing they can do is get out and work. If you haven’t already, make the decision on what you want to do and plan on how to go about it. I think you said you’d decided to go to a local Community Colllege?? Still interested in Culunary (god knows I spelled that wrong)? Or whatever else you are interested in.

Yes Witchy I do feel trapped I’ve got to stop being such an enabler. I mean her has a cell phone, that I pay for. Me and Kristy don’t have one. He made enough money this week to pay it and chose not to. And I am not going to pay it. I pay the house phone, that’s all we really need. And if I manage to quit smoking as I’m trying to do in my own way lol. I’m not buying his cigerettes or his beer or gas for his truck. I bought him the truck and he can use it to earn a little money. I still provide him a roof over his head and food. That’s enough. Oh and clothes when he needs them.

2 04 2009
WItchypoo

Sweetlara…there’s a lot to admire and appreciate about you. I don’t know if you look at yourself like this…but a woman who keeps her family together and cared for like you do is a very capable, strong one. I also get the distinct impression that you’re a loving, kind & gentle person, also…all such terrific traits. It seems like you’re able to take the set of circumstances you’re given, making the most positive situation possible out of them. That’s really all we can do, don’t you think? So…keep doing what you’re doing, Sweetie.

Take care.

2 04 2009
lara21167

Witchy, I’m a strong believer in positive thinking. And to appreciate what we have. In these trying economic times, that is really important and a lot of people are starting to realize that.

2 04 2009
monkeyspeaks

Witchy – layla is doing great so far. We’re paranoid about parvo now though so we are going overboard with disinfectant. We spray our shoes before coming into the house and we spray the dogs feet everytime they come in. I keep a lysol disinfectant spray near the door so its always on hand. Frad (or Fred… either or…) was a bit nervous in the beginning. He creeps around sometimes and it took him a few days before he was willing to go near keeper or the baby since Keeper is very protective. Im thikning she snapped at him pretty hard and he was probably frightened when she was giving birth.
Now he’ll sniff the puppy if we hold it up to him and he’ll play with Keeper when shes not watching the baby

Lara – Yes, training her will calm her down a LITTLE but only in the sense that they are going to help work her mind. Also be careful about OVER training because you can turn a dog off to training if they become over stimulated. I suggest working with her in 30 minute incriments (although you may be able to go a bit longer while walking). As far as her energy, she needs to get 40 minutes of good exercise twice a day (so a 40 minute walk or 40 minutes of hard play outside). That will help. ALSO, she likes to sniff things out… go buy a few kongs (sadly these are a bit pricey but you can probably get away with buying the smaller ones) and hide them around the house with a bit of peanut butter or a treat inside them (Kongs are designed for this…some come with a goey treat to put inside but I dont realy trust it…and if you just use PB then I thikn the kong is a bit cheaper to buy on its own rather than kong/treat combo). What this will do is help satisfy her urge to roam around and sniff and will help work her mind, also calming her down. It will also discourage her from chewing on anything else if she’s too busy hunting down treats and toys. You can also hide other toys around the house for her to find and even spray them with something tasty. (you can pribably find that at any pet store).

The box walking will not let her sniff around (although yes she will be able to even with the muzzle on). The idea behind the box is to keep her next to you without pulling. Its good that she wants to use her insticts but it actually makes walking her really ineffective (like she wont get the full 40 minutes of energy release if shes stopping to smell everything AND it can become a bad habit and will making walking her in the future tougher). What you want to do with the box is show her when you tell her to get beside you, she better be there and she better stay until she’s told otherwise. You can let her run off and sniff and that is where the whistle comes in. Take her for her walk and keep her in her box. When you get to a certain destination let her leash slack so she can mosey around and smell all those yummy smells. Then blow the whistle so she knows when to come RIGHT back. The beauty of the whistle is if she is well behaved enough and the trick takes to her strongly enough, you will be able to let her off lease in safe (LOW TRAFFIC!) areas (like a off leash park) and she can do her thing and you know she’ll come right back when you need her to. She’ll still be smelling everythig in the air so don’t worry, keeping her in her box won’t take away the smells but it will help train her nto to be OBSESSIVE about them (which is what can happen if she’s allowed to smell everything and anything. you want to make sure you can catch her focus immediately when you need to and if she becomes more into smelling than listening to you her attention will always be on the smells rather than obedience).

The biting thing. Since she was taken from her litter, she only learned SO MUCH about play and limitations. Whenever she bites you giver her a sharp NO and then ignore her. Just walk away. dont give her a toy or treat. She’ll have to learn when she plays too rough then she gets ignored. If she wants to continue playing she’ll realize she has to calm down. Its also due in part to teething. She’s going to start REALLY nibbling on a lot of stuff as her puppy teeth begin to fall out. I suggest taking away any “cloth” toys (stuff toys, blankets, etc) that she could chew on because its VERY easy for fibers to get stuck in babys belly and can clog her intestines. You can give her cloth toys when she gets closer to a year and learns to not eat them. If you ever see her tearing them apart, take them away immediately (this includes tug ropes). Keep plastic toys around (like plastic bones or kongs that have strong resistance to wear and tear that i suggested above).

Right now you are her new litter and soon pack so it’s up to you guys to teach her what is right and what is wrong. Whats play and whats too much. Maybe use the word GENTLE when she bites to hard. When fred gets over excited he bites me still (not aggressive… its just his herding instinct taking over and he nips me to keep me in place) and now if i say GENTLE he backs off (for the most part). Definitely get on top of the biting and tugging thing as soon as you can though because if she thinks she can get away with it she’ll put herself at the top of the back which is YOUR place.

Witchy – Yea, Boo and I are obsessive when it comes to training techniques and are ALAWYS watching Its Me or the Dog and researching training ideas online. We also work with herding trainers and learn from them.

lara – if you can watch It’s me or the dog. She gives FANTASTIC advice and she started off as your everyday dog walker so her techniques are simple and realistic.

2 04 2009
WItchypoo

P.S…sometimes I think it would be so nice if we all lived within a closer proximity to each other, so we could actually see each other “in living color”, you know? It’s still nice to visit with you all through this venue, though.

Take care.

2 04 2009
WItchypoo

Right you are, Sweetlara.

2 04 2009
lara21167

Yes Witchy that would be great.

Rowdy, thanks for all the training tips. I will try them out. I think the major thing is more exercise. On the weekends no prob, thru the week though it can be hard. And if we go to my MIL, she has a fensed yard. Ginger won’t run around the yard by herself, she’ll lay by the door looking sad. And she scares my MIL’s great big Yellow Lab, so he won’t go out and play with her. Big baby he is lol. But there’s a park close to my apartment complex. I don’t know if your really allowed to have dogs there, but there is usually no one there and it is a good distance away from the road, so it’s a good place to go to play “fetch” and stuff. Also the apartment complex next to the one I live, has a “dog run” which is a nice fensed area. I’ve thought about letting her run in there, who would really know we didn’t live there??

2 04 2009
Clo

Ugh, Rowdy, Parvo. Horrrrrrible. HORRIBLE.

3 04 2009
Clo

Baby in the bed with us. Again. Something must be done.

3 04 2009
lara21167

Cloey I don’t know what to tell you, my son was like that until probably 2yrs old, and then still I had to put him in bed with me sometimes. Witchy you said you did the “family Bed” thing with all your boys and didn’t have problems. My only question on that is how you go about having a little fun with the hubby πŸ˜‰

3 04 2009
WItchypoo

Oh, Sweetlara…there are so many, (interesting), ways to have “a little fun with the hubby”. Really, though, sex doesn’t have to be a strictly bedtime activity. We just made time before turning in…and still often do. There’s also car rides, (a nice change of scenery), outdoor gymnastics…you name it. We like adding a little novelty to the routine, you know? Hey, when nature calls, there are so many ways to be creative. Often, though, we just indulge before bedtime. TMI? Heeheehee.

Take care.

3 04 2009
Clo

Don’t tell me 2 years old. Please, please don’t tell me that. I can’t take that. It will kill me.

It wouldn’t be so bad. I mean the fun time with hubby could come when Cayden will be in his crib for the 2 hours before he demands to be moved in with us. But the kid won’t sleep unless one of us is holding him. I can’t hold him while on my stomach, therefore I sleep like crap, and my back and arms are killing me.

If there’s not a reason for this (teething, growth spurt, earinfection) then we’re going to cry it out. I hate to do it, but something must be done.

3 04 2009
lara21167

Clo did you call the pedi yet, they may be able to give you some advise. My son always slept next to me and I’d put my arm around him and hold him, sleeping on my side. No problem. I could never snuggle like that with Kristy. She even today hates to feel confined by anything, including clothes or shoes. WE had a big spat at Walmart over a little pair of black flats she needed for chorous. She hated them I liked them. She said they squished her toes, I told her to get used to it. That’s just the way they make womens shoes!!

3 04 2009
WItchypoo

Cloey…don’t fret, Sweetie; sometimes ya just gotta let the inmates take over the asylum, (in other words, children very often do the exact opposite of what you’d currently prefer). Things have a way of eventually working out, though. In the meantime, do yourself a favor: find a new, kinky spot to get some with your lover-boy. It’ll put a smile on your face…no matter how tired you are.

Take care.

3 04 2009
Clo

Don’t want to have sex. Want sleep.

4 04 2009
janey

hey guys. so i was reading the comments and they made me spit out my drink. i was like, well…when did we get on this subject?? lol
i just got home. i went out with stephon and my bestie. her name is Maeanna. and the three of us tigether is dangerous. one of us [me] is EXTREMELY random, the other [Stephie] is just funny in a way only we understand and the last of us [mae] is just soooooo sarcastic u cant help but laugh. and we r all kinda mean and rude but not on purpose. none of us really think before we speak and we almost never apologize for wht comes out of our mouths. its funny.

4 04 2009
lara21167

Janey glad your getting out and about and having a good time. Cloey and Witchy you made me laugh too. And sex does relieve all sorts of stress Cloe lol

4 04 2009
janey

im on my way to the movies with Stephon.
but. one of my friends ran away yesterday. they found her this morning
about a half hour away from home. i was tryin to fall asleep when a mutual friend rang the doorbell. it was almost one in the morning. but shes fine. im sooooo glad. the crazy part is tht we were just with her two hours before. like we were all chillin. nd then she just decided to leave. she packed up. waited til her parents fell asleep nd then left.

5 04 2009
Clo

I was just thinking the other day about all the crazy stupid dangerous things when I was younger, and it actually scared the crap outta me, lol. But back then it was a lot of fun.

I’m too tired for sex. Actually though I probably need to make myself have it here soon. Both Jeremy and I are so tired and frustrated that we’re pretty much at each others throats. Maybe sex will solve that.

5 04 2009
janey

so the movie was extremely funny.
and Stephon got me this cute purple bear
with a hoodie tht has green hearts on it. my two fave colors.
he is soooo sweet. next weekend, a group of us are goin to
rock-n-bowl. should be tons of fun.

Clo- maybe it will. maybe you and jeremy need to go out
by yourselves and just spend time together. maybe have a date night
like every week or every other week.

5 04 2009
lara21167

Cloey maybe a night at Grandma’s for Cayden, and you and Jeremy maybe go and just enjoy some time together, and of course catch up on some sleep. We all need that once in a while.

5 04 2009
lara21167

Janey Stephon sounds like a keeper. Glad they found your friend alright. yea Cloey I know some of the things I did when I was young, I know someone up above was watching over me lol.

5 04 2009
Clo

Cayden spends a night at Grandma’s once a week. We usually try to do something, but I’m so crazy tired. It’s just stress.

5 04 2009
WItchypoo

Hey, ladies. Stupid things while too young to care? Hmmm…usually I was really responsible & aware of possible consequences; every now & then, though, I’d throw caution to the winds & do something pretty crazy, and possibly dangerous. I had a couple of close girlfriends that I used to get kind of “carefree” with. We had a lot of fun, though.

Cloey, it’s hard to be exhausted for sustained periods of time; I definitely can relate to that. Maybe Cayden’s sleeping patterns will even out sooner rather than later. That would be a huge relief right now, hugh?

Janey, things sound great with Stephon; I’m really happy that you’re enjoying yourself, Sweetie. Keep looking ahead.

How’s it going, Lara? Any cheer activities for Kristy this weekend? How about you, Goldie? What are you and the guy, (and the canine “children” ), up to this weekend?

My boys are on spring break this coming week; I’m going to have to come up with things to keep them busy, (or they’ll drive me crazy!).

Speaking of sleep, I feel like taking a nap; I haven’t done much this am and afternoon, so I don’t know why I’m feeling so lazy, (other than the fact that we ran from one sports activity to another all day yesterday; didn’t get home last night until close to 10:00).

Take care, and I’ll talk to everyone later.

5 04 2009
Clo

We’re doing cry it out. Which is super hard, and from what I heard it’s pretty sleepless the first couple days, but they catch on quick. He’s super exhausted right now but won’t take a nap in his crip. So he’s still up. I know if he gets tired enough he will sleep, so I’m hoping he just passes out tonight.

6 04 2009
lara21167

The crying out thing is hard. All you do is listen to him cry and worry. But if you can hang in there maybe that will work.

Witchy, just normal cheer practice Sat. The big Nationals event was at Ocean City, Maryland this weekend, we didn’t go since we made Finals. But our coach said all kinds of drama was going on down there. With our local teams. There’s actually 2 teams fighting with each other, stupid stuff.

Otherwise a pretty quiet weekend. Except Saturday police everywhere around our apartment complex. saw a guy in handcuffs, then up the road cops had a car pulled over. Must have been a drug bust.

6 04 2009
Clo

It was hard the first night, and yesterday during the day. He pretty much refused to nap, but then went down at 9 and was asleep till 4:45 AM! I’m hoping the cry it out thing is working, and it’s not just because he refused to nap yesterday.

He went to the pedi today. Got his shots 😦 but the next time we go at 9 months he doesn’t have to get any, so YAY for that. He’s 20 lbs 14 oz, and 27 3/4 inches. So he’s up almost 3 lbs and a little over 2 inches since last time.

6 04 2009
lara21167

Good, and he’ll prob feel bad from the shots and sleep good for you, maybe that’ll help.

6 04 2009
lara21167

Did you have the doc check his ears just to make sure there was no problem?

6 04 2009
Clo

Yeah, I’m really really anal about his ear and throat, because my sister had HUGE issues with her ears when she was younger. Got ear infection at the drop of the hat, and had tubes put in and taken out SEVERAL times, and has significant hearing loss (she’s supposed to wear a hearing aid, she doesn’t, she’s too vain.) And I have issues with my tonsils (They’re called kissing tonsils, they used to touch, I got strep and every other kinda throat thing all the time. When I had mono my tonsils got so swollen you could see them on the outside of my neck and they were worried that I’d stop breathing. I eventually got them out.) So I like to have her check those. She said him screaming the other night was probably either due to an unknown pain (could have been many things she said) or maybe a night terror.

7 04 2009
janey

This weather is crazyy. Tell me y its snowin and freakin freezin outside but its been really nice out these last couple of days

7 04 2009
lara21167

Old man winter is not done with you yet Janey lol. It’s a bit cold here too, and a little snow in the mountains.

cloey, I was thinking about you when my boss was telling me how her grandson who is 2 has been waking in the night, and he’ll start screaming if his parents don’t pick him up. They think he’s teething, but you know it could be nightmares. You never think of babies having bad dreams but they sure can. My one nephew his parents said used to talk about a spider in his room all the time. There was no spider. Then he kept talking about a man. Then the man had a spider, and something about a ball and the stairs and “man fell” “man gone”. Is what he said. They thought their apartment was haunted, but Brian hasn’t talked about the man and the spider for a while, so maybe it was a dream.

7 04 2009
Clo

Yeah we had like 70 degree weather on Sunday, and then this snow /rain crap yesterday. I haven’t been outside today.

7 04 2009
Clo

Oooh, forgot to tell you guys about the cry it out SUCCESS! I am now doing a happy dance, I just pray this all lasts.

Yesterday he took 2 1/2 naps in his crib (I say half because the first nap he fell asleep coming home from the pedi’s office and we moved him up to the crib.) 2 of those he fell asleep in his crib, by himself. The first one he fell asleep by himself he cried for 20 minutes. The second one, less than ten. Last night for bed I did our schedule (every other night he has a bath, this wasn’t bath night) which is PJ’s/clean diaper, book, lullabye, sleep sack, crib, bottle in crib (he won’t eat his bottle while we’re holding him at night, I’m not sure why.) He passed right out with no crying, slept till 4, drank a bottle, went right back down until 8:30 (he fussed a little in his sleep but was not awake) Then for his first nap of the morning (it’s a little late, Jeremy has a different schedule, and now he’s wrecking MY schedule, lol.) he played with his crib toy for a minute and passed out. I’m so excited!

7 04 2009
lara21167

Sometimes the “old” ways work best. Hopefully he’ll keep it up!!

7 04 2009
janey

you guys.
im sooooo tired.
i dnt even kno why.
im just. exhausted.

8 04 2009
WItchypoo

Janey…are you depressed? Extreme or persistent tiredness is one symptom. What about iron…are you possibly deficient? Are you eating right?

8 04 2009
janey

ive been having trouble sleeping lately
[i think i mentioned b4]
and then i got the sleeping pills and they are working fine.
i dunno whts wrong. one of my friends has been having a hard time
lately ad ive been out and about with her, trying to make sure shes ok.
so im wondering if the stress from all tht is just catching up with me??
and my glasses broke nd ive been straining my eyes so i have a headache.
[reminder to stop putting my glasses on the floor b4 i fall asleep lol]

as far as eating.
i dnt really have breakfast. i usually have a cup of coffee around 7.30 am
nd have a light lunch around 12.30 pm nd dinner at 6. i dnt really eat much. food doesnt really appeal to me much anymore. in fact if my mom doesnt ask me if ate i prolly wouldnt eat.

8 04 2009
WItchypoo

Woahhhh, Janey…no interest in eating is another common symptom of depression. Are you sure your frame of mind is reasonably stable? You’re beginning to concern me, Girl.

8 04 2009
Clo

I’m so bored. My Mom randomly took Cayden for the night, Jeremy’s due home soon, but I’ve been here alone pretty much all night. I attempted to clean out the closet but that got old, so I just threw everything back in. Needless to say it looks worse than before I started. I should pick up the living room before Jeremy comes home so it looks like I did something besides sit on my butt on the internet for hours.

8 04 2009
WItchypoo

Bored, hugh, Cloey? I’m trying to motivate myself to get some evening chores done. I’m kind of worn out from an afternoon of spring cleaning/deep cleaning. After eating dinner, Jerry left with Chance to go to his weekly league game, (besides the weekend tournaments, Chance’s baseball team is part of a league that plays one game every Tuesday). It’s quite a distance away, (for a weeknight), and I have to get Beau to and from lacrosse practice…so I can’t go; the timing wouldn’t work out. Tonight, though, Beau came downstairs to tell me that he’d been throwing up and felt awful. His voice has been gone all day, too, and he doesn’t look very well. So, we’re just hanging out here tonight. I dislike cleaning out closets, for the simple reason that I have a hard time deciding what to keep, what to throw/give away…and how it should all be organized. I tend to hang onto things too long, usually for “sentimental” reasons. The problem with that line of thinking is that I rarely ever look at the “special” things I can’t seem to part with. I’m trying to make myself let go of things, and be more realistic/practical about what we should hang onto. I mean, I give a lot of clothes away to Goodwill and all that, (except, I have a really hard time letting go of baby clothes)…but, anything the boys have made, brought home from school, made me, scribbled on a piece of paper…or whatever – I feel reluctant to part with. I’m finally realizing, though, that I can’t hang onto everything. Plus, keeping EVERYTHING kind of diminishes the “specialness” of everything as a whole. Does that make any sense? I’m pretty much just rambling here, Cloey.

Take care.

8 04 2009
Clo

I know what you mean. I’m kinda like that with pictures of Cayden. Even the bad ones I just feel horrible about deleting.

I hate cleaning out this closet cause it’s the crap closet. Whenever we’ve had to do the quick clean ups, we’ve jammed everything into that closet. So now it’s just SO much stuff. Plus it’s such a little space, and by the time I end up dragging it all out, I don’t feel like dealing with it anymore. And it’s not really a chore I can do with Cayden here. Things like dishes I can start when he naps or plays by himself and then stop anytime. I can’t just leave all this crap in the middle of the room.

I went through a bunch of his baby clothes today. We’re keeping some for sentimental value (outfit he wore home, first halloween outfit, first Christmas outfit), some stuff that could be considered unisex (I’m hoping for a girl next time, lol), and just cute stuff. My Mom says I should keep it all but… I mean it seems like the majority of gifts given are clothes, and we don’t really have the storage to keep them. I thought you weren’t supposed to have a baby shower with your second child, but my friend Courtney said that was bullshit and she didn’t care and was going to throw one for me (the subject came up cause she had just come over to our house after a shower, and it was actually the womans second baby.) and I figure since we’ve already gotten all the “big stuff” and are saving it (it’s going into my Mom’s or Jeremy’s parents basements, they both have HUGE basements.) then people will be even more likely to give us clothes. Do I sound really selfish when I say that? I mean, people don’t HAVE to give us anything.

Sorry, I have babies on the brain again.

But anyway, I’m worried that when Cayden’s actually making stuff? I won’t be able to throw it away either.

I also don’t have a lot of pictures of me or any stuff I made really when I was younger. I was the youngest of three to basically a single mom, so not a ton of pictures. Then in a cleaning fit, my Mom told us to pick out the stuff we wanted to keep… We were all really young when she did this, and didn’t realize how meaningful some of those pictures/projects we made would mean to us when we were older. All we knew is we’d rather play, so my Mom ended up throwing out a lot of stuff. I know it may make her sound heartless or something, but honestly she was probably just desperate to organize and was hoping we’d help out.

Ah, now I’m rambling too.

8 04 2009
WItchypoo

No, of course your Mom doesn’t sound heartless for trying to get the homefront organized. I really admire single mothers like her; she deserves a lot of credit, and some slack, also.

About showers: People are having them with each baby these days. Things are just too damn expensive to be doing everything yourself with each bundle-of-joy, you know? I wouldn’t give it a second thought, Cloey…let your friend give you that shower when the time comes. Every little bit helps.

I don’t have a lot from my childhood, either; I think my Mom was pretty good at keeping things organized and all that. She probably got rid of a lot of things. I don’t know…some things I just can’t let go of. My boys still make me cards for various occasions, especially Beau, (at 15, he’s still very sweet in certain respects…a softie like me).

We can ramble if we want to, right?

Take care, Sweetie.

8 04 2009
lara21167

Clutter clutter clutter, my hubby, who really needs a job was watching Dr. Phil the other day, and there was a man on there who’d come home from work everyday and just throw any clutter he found away. His kids’ homework included. Dr Phil decided the man was just stressed. My dad kept everything imaginable. When we went through his basement after he died it was unbelievable what he’d kept. I have a diary of my mother’s. Not filled in too well but interesting. I have their first budget book. Their house payment was only a couple hundred dollars!! And although it’s neat to look at that kind of stuff years later, it’s just not very practical to keep it all. Hell he had a file with every damn report card I every had in it. I’m just like him, but I’ve gotten better. I used to keep everything my son made, he was my first. One time I tried to throw away a picture he gave me, and I know it was on the fridge forever. He pulled it out of the trash and actually yelled at me for “not wanting his picture he made”. So don’t always let your kids know what you throw out. Now I just keep certain things. Or something for a while then throw it away. My hubby hates clutter and his mother is one of those people who throw out everything and always buy new stuff. My dad kept things including furniture, until it fell apart literally. Like I said, I’m just like him. But getting better. So my hubby and I clash on that all the time.

I don’t see anything wrong with having a baby shower for your 2nd or later baby. No one threw me one with my daughter and it was 5 1/2 yrs after my son and she was a girl, so I really did need one. Talking about being pregnant and babies. My hubby’s brother’s son’s girlfriend is pregnant and my hubby’s nephew called my hubby the other day because his girlfriend will start crying uncontrollably for no reason and he didn’t know what to do. I laughed, and said “did you tell him she’s just pregnant” my hubby said yea that’s what he told him. He’s a good boy and I adore his girlfriend. They are having a girl, Cloey Winter.

Janey stress will wear you out. just take it easy, and make sure you eat properly. Lots of fresh fruits and veggies, if you can afford them. I am soooo frustrated with the price of food. And why is it that fresh fruits and veggies cost more than canned, when canned food is more processed. Just doesn’t make any sense to me at all.

One more little rant. I am sooo tired of republicans (sorry to any of you that are republicians) bashing what Obama is doing. I don’t know about the rest of you but I think that man is doing a fantastic job as President. I have never had a president impress me the way Obama is.

Ok I’ll stop rambling and get to work now…

8 04 2009
janey

witchy- im fine. i promise.
im just a little tired. i woke up bout a half hour ago
nd i feel a little better. im going to see about getting
some cleaning done nd then maybe going out tonight.

8 04 2009
janey

did i tell you guys that i got birds???
i thnk i forgot. i got them sunday.
they are yellow and grey love birds.
their names are baby nd sunshine.
i will post pics on myspace whn i find mu usb cord lol

8 04 2009
lara21167

Love birds, that’s sweet. I don’t think I could do birds, they get too noisey lol

Btw Rowdy, Ginger is doing better with walking. So long as I have her. She still pulls bad for my daughter. I haven’t gotten the harness yet, short of money at the moment, and I want to get a good one. And I was soooo proud of her, she likes to “bury” her bones. And the other night she “buried” one in my daughter’s blankets she had on the floor, and for the heck of it I said “Find Bone” She looked at me and I said it several more times and damned if she didn’t go sniff out her bone and bring it to me!! I’ve got to work more with her on that. Maybe she can help me find things I’ve missplaced lol.

Rowdy how is the new puppy doing? And mamma and adopted dad?

8 04 2009
Clo

I’m sorry, I have a hatred for birds. They seriously freak me out, lol. I saw Alfred Hitchcock’s the birds, and it made perfect sense to me. All the birds I’ve encountered are mean as fuck. They’re dirty and mean, and just little assholes.

It’s hard for some people to believe, cause where I used to work we had animals brought in all the time. All sorts of snakes (which aren’t my favorite, but I will hold them) spiders, bugs, lizards, all sorts of crap. And I never had a problem holding, touching, catching any of those “scary” things. But bring in a bird and I got ghost.

Jeremy really wants a bird, an African Gray, but they’re super expensive, and so is their set up. So I don’t think he’ll ever get that dream. He also wants a huge tortiose, and if we ever move to AZ like he wants, we’re going to get one. Those I can do. Birds? No thank you.

8 04 2009
janey

Clo- hehe. thts funny.

i have a hatred for spiders and snakes
i cant even think about them lol
im scared to death of them

8 04 2009
lara21167

Snakes I can do. Spiders oh hell no!! I had a cousin who kept pet snakes, so I got used to them.

8 04 2009
monkeyspeaks

clorida- ape wants an african gray too. we watch pet star every morning together (its kind of become our thing. unless i have to leave when its on, we stay in bed together and watch it) and there is this african gray named einstein that is really smart and he keeps telling me he wants it but im a walking Alfred Hitchcock movie and birds love to attack me so im not really down. Id rather have super smart dogs! lol

Clutter – OHHH you are talkin to a bonified pack rat here. I get it from my grandpa I think, not my mom, who goes through the house twice a year and gets rid of EVERYTHING she doesnt need. I can’t tell you how many fights over my books we’ve had.
mom – You’ve already read it! 5 times! and you havent touched this one in years, its got dust
me – but its a BOOK. you dont get rid of BOOKS mom
mom – You have a stacks of books two deep that reach your waist! NOT including the ones in the library. GO THRUOGH THEM
me: NEVA!!!!!!!!!!!
mom: im throwing them out when you move
me: i hate you
mom: love you too

She’s right though. I have school books (as in novels i had to read in college) and there really did used to be stacks and stacks of books everywhere. It took me 5 boxes just to pack up the books I wanted to take with me. And there are still books at home but i couldnt afford the move with all of them lol (im bein 100 percent serious).

We also found papers from when I was in high school and college, folders, clothing i forgot i even owned.

It took me DAYS to go through my clothes and got rid of about half of them and i still need to get rid of more. I look at it and im like oh well i’ll wear it again i know il regret getting rid of it, and then i never wear them. I heard if you dont wear something within a year to just get rid of it. Its hard for me to do though.

I still have my baby clothes but I think mom is just saving those for my future lot. Cause the early 80s will be back one day… errr right? Nothing like a baby in parachute pants. or bedazzled pink tye dye puff paint matching shorts and shirts with dinasaurs on them. The pink makes it girl friendly and the dinasaurs make it ok for a young boy…. (omg the poor kids…)

My grandpa is the same. He and my grandma used to manage the building they live in now so he has this storage closet that he converted into an “office.” its the funniest thing. There are newspaper articles pinned up that were written about me (ya know, those silly little clips… “monkey participates in clown troupe!” stuff like that). And just piles of stuff and files. Hes very organized about it but that room is PACKED. there is JUST enough room for him with everything in there. My grandma says one day we’ll go through it and i’ll get whatever is in there hahaha. Cause I dont have enough crap of my own. Of course. My bro Z gets the wwii sword and i get a bunch of papers.

Although i DO get the harry winston bling bling (although its going to my mom first and THEN me). but whatever. I can wait another 30 yaers for that 4Ct bit of yumminess. I drool when i think about it.

8 04 2009
monkeyspeaks

WHICH, btw, that bling bling – total family DRAMA! its funny.

My Aunt says she should get it because she is the oldest, but she isn’t married and doesnt have kids so my grandma said nope because she wants it to stay in the family

My Uncle wants it because he’s the oldest child with a kid but he is estranged from her and shes a spoiled bitch and my grandma doesn’t want it falling into her hands

SO my mom is the candidate (and the favotire child lol) since shes married, has kids, and they know i’ll reproduce one day and keep it in the family. Id love to pass it onto my daughter as an engagement ring one day.

BTW… no kids for me in the naer future. Everything came up negative (blood and doc) and today it became “official’ hahaha. WOOOOO THANK YOUUUUUUUUUU. All I wanna do is zooma zoom zoom zoom!

8 04 2009
monkeyspeaks

Laura – its a confidence thing. beacuse you are the one primarily working with the dog she views you as the alpha, not your daughter. Right now she may view your daughter as lower than her. That can be changed. Just teach your daughter the techniques you are using and remind her to ALWAYS use a firm voice and to always remain calm and collected around the dog. I know it gets frustrating and I often lose my own cool

Its the same between ape and i believei t or not. They walk lovely for him but as soon as I take the leash im dragged along. Its taking time and work to get them to listen. I figure Im gonna work fred first and then keeper. It all takes lots of time, so patience is key! Thats great shes walking well for you though.

And Clorida – HELLL yea, have another baby shower. Every little bit helps. I don’t thikn people are doing the only one shower per baby anymore. I think any reason for a party is great though.

Ugly sweater? PARTY! new baby? PARTY! new apartment? PARTY!

life is too short not to celebrate all the great things in life sometimes

8 04 2009
monkeyspeaks

OH and yes that is a great trick laura! WORK WITH IT!. Find ways to constantly stimulate the dog. Ex. When you get ready for a walk, ask ginger to get her leash for you. Put names to things and let her learn them and respond to it. And the kongs are going to be the perfect toy for Ginger if she likes hunting. It will put that instict to use and allow her to do it in a healthy way.

The thing is yuo can’t tell a dog no and not give them an alternative. Like you cant tell her not to dig in the backyard aand say no and expect her to understand. Shes just doing waht shes programed to do. So instead of saying NO! and trying to get her to understand that what she is doing is bad, you hae to find an alternative for her. Like putting a sandbox up and burrying her bones in THAT. She’ll learn that she can use her instict in a helpfuk way. You have a working dog so she will honestly just want to work and please. Its just finding ways to do that. The kong, the sand box, having her retrieve things like her bone and her leash. All of these will stimulate her mind which will calm her down and help her grow into a smart and helpful dog!

8 04 2009
Clo

I don’t like snakes and spiders in the real world, but if you bring it in and tell me it’s been bred as a pet? I’ll pet it, touch it, hold it, whatever. However, at camp, if we saw a snake in the wild? I was also ghost. Forget about the kids, you’ve never SEEN a fat chick run so fast.

Spiders too. I remember at camp I was on break, laying on my bed talking on the phone. My co-counselor took the kids to get in the shower. I looked up at the ceiling and there’s this HUGE spider up there. So when my co-counselor comes back I’m like, there’s a spider above my bed. She thought I was talking about the daddy long legs (which are HUGE but totally harmless and aren’t even technically spiders, and I’ll pick up those and play with them) and so she was like “Oh, I’ll get it.” Then she saw it and was like “Um, we better get one of the guys.” So we got a male counselor and his bright idea was to use a broom to sweep it into a bucket (yeah right) all the while our whole cabin is screaming “Kill it!” (I’m big on removing bugs and setting them free on the outside, but this was one scary looking mofo) So of course when he sweeps it off it doesn’t fall into the bucket, but lands on the floor with a thud (that’s how big this sucker was) And is gone. He looked EVERYWHERE. Couldn’t find it. I said, please, look under my mattress. They were like, no way he’s not under there. But I was convinced and knew I’d NEVER sleep unless they checked, and sure enough the lift up my mattress and this little bastard comes scurrying out. So they carry him out and release him (I TOLD them to KILL him) and the next day? I woke up with a HUGE spider bite on my leg. I’m covinced the little sucker came back for revenge.
I do want a tarantula after the “bug guy” as we call him did a presentation at camp, and let us hold one. They feel so cool walking on your hand. My sister though is TERRIFIED of spiders, and said she will never come over again if we get one. And I believe her.

Rowdizzle, birds hate me as well. Jeremy likes to take me into bird houses. We visted the lorakeets and even though I had no food they still flocked on me. I knew they just wanted to peck my eyes out. Then at the conservatory, one CHASED me out of the bird room, and the same when we went to the Memphis zoo. They had an aviary and as soon as I walked in, this bird came flew to a tree next to me, and mean mugged me, and then hopped down and started walking towards me. I was like, OH no you didn’t, and Cayden and I got out of there.

9 04 2009
lara21167

Cloey, the spider thing is funny. I think I’d have a heart attack and die just knowing the thing got close enough to me to bite me ewww. We lived 1 year in a basement apartment, cute apartment, but being a basement meant spiders. I had one come down from the ceiling and land on me as me and my hubby were getting busy on the couch. About had a heart attack then.

Rowdy, you mean my daughter shouldn’t scream and hide under the covers when Ginger “attacks” and I mean plays with her lol. She tries that with me jumping up and snaping at me but I do like you and Cloe suggested and ignore her. I just stand still for probably not even a minute and she’ll stop and go do something else. Getting Kristy to that is a different story. And Congrats on NOT being pregnant!! πŸ™‚

9 04 2009
Clo

Speaking of evil animals, cat almost died last night. Apparently one of our cats, Kahlua, doesn’t like it when there are high pitched noises coming through speakers. The other day I was watching a video on my phone, of Cayden, and he was laughing and squealing. Kahlua came over and bit me! I was pissed. Then last night she was on the bed with us, and Cayden woke up crying. Jeremy got up to feed him and I went back to sleep, but Cayden kept crying (I assume Jeremy was fixing a bottle and hadn’t given it to him yet, Caydens VERY impatient.) and Kahlua bit me on my face! I have a big scratch on it. Then she ran so I couldn’t smack her like I wanted too. So I waited until she was asleep on the stairs and then pushed her.

9 04 2009
lara21167

Cloey!! Poor kitty, lol. Make sure you keep a watch on where she bit you, you can develop cellunitus (sp?) Skin infection real easy from cat bites. My brother and my step mother wound up going to the hospital from cat bites, different cats. Also when I had my son, I had 2 cats that were my babies before my baby, and my favorite one, she couldn’t stand for my son to cry, She’d hiss and run away. But she didn’t take it out on me anyway πŸ™‚

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