I’m not sure

27 07 2009

I had what you would call your average life growing up. At least, what I would call an average life growing up. Because, growing up, it was my life, and it was all I knew. I wouldn’t call my life sheltered. My parents took no great pains to keep me from the outside world; nor did they force any other way of life down my throat. Life just was. I guess you could say I took things for granted. Saying I was spoiled would be going too far. I was provided the essentials, I wanted for little, but there were limits and I certainly did not get everything I asked for – unless it was Sunday. Sunday’s were for Pop-Pop, the Toy Store and Denny’s Brunch. There was a 15 dollar limit; but at the time that was still big bones, but isn’t it the grandparents job to spoil the grandkids. And on really lucky weekends we spent the night, which meant “Everything Chicken” and ginger-ale in a sippy-cup instead of water on the night-stand. But that’s for later. There’s plenty of time to tell you about my grandparents. Things, growing up, just, were. And that was fine by me.

I know we started in a one-bedroom in a lesser part of South Florida. It wasn’t the hood, but it wasn’t anything grand. It was duplex and rental city. It was what my dad could afford on his start-up salary; especially when, a short year into marriage, my parents were surprised with me. My Mom was 25, Dad was 26. I don’t remember much of that time of life. I know two and a half years later my parents gave me a brother. I doubt I asked for one but they gave me him anyway. Growing up Z used to tease me that Mom and Dad were so disappointed with me that they tried for another kid. Mom told Z they were so happy with me they wanted another, but he exhausted them so much they stopped. Z always needed a lot of attention. I know that. I don’t really remember it, although I became aware of it, growing up. Dad worked his way up the ladder. He got us a house in a nicer part of town. Right near my childhood best friend, J. That’s my first memory. Walking down the hall into a room with clowns boarding the ceiling. I’m pretty sure it was Z’s because I hate clowns. Or maybe that’s why I hate clowns. But we were going to change him, so I think it was his room. And I remember the lawn outside of J’s house. Vaguely. To be honest I don’t know which memory is first. I wasn’t more than 4. But I remember.

Dad got depressed around the time Z was born. He was 29. I didn’t know that at the time. But that’s the next memory I have.  Mom said Dad had a surgery. At least I remember being told Dad had a surgery. And maybe he really did. Maybe he really did have his appendix taken out. He has the scar. But I remember Mom telling me dad was sick; I remember walking through the hospital, the whole sterile bright lights and that smell that is indigenous to hospitals and doctors offices (although I’ve learned psychiatrists and psychologists officers are excluded from this phenomenon). We had chocolate chip cookies. And we shared them with the old lady sharing the room. I was no more than 3 and a half. Like I said, first memories get jumbled around, and even as an adult I have issues with chronology, so who knows if this was before the clowns. But I remember the light being almost blue.

Sometimes, I wonder how much of my childhood I’ve made up. How many memories were dreams that I morphed into reality, and what the difference was. For years I believed that a trip to see Sesame Street live was just a dream until I found pictures capturing the moment, proving the reality. And yet, I remember being told we never went. So, did I dream that?

Shortly after the hospital stint I know we moved in with my grandparents. My Mom’s parents. Not because Dad fell so hard he could no longer support us, and Mom didn’t leave him. She stuck by him. And he worked hard; and pulled out of his depression. This would become a major impact on me in my later years, although I had no way of knowing that at 3 and a half. No, we stayed with them while we waited for the new house to be finished.

At four years old my parents gave me what every quintessential history book and American novel – what every Manifest Destiny type would tell you an American should half. We had a two story house on a tree-lined street, My parents had two kids, spaced two and a half years apart. We had a yard with a jungle gym. My parents had outrageously large sunglasses (this was the 80s, although the look came back in 2000 when I proudly boasted my own pair). We never had the picket fence – ours was concrete – but we did live in art deco Miami Beach and, really, a white picket fence was just too middle America for us. Oh, and we got the dog. That was another memory. I don’t remember picking her out. But I remember one Hanukah afternoon, or night, (did I mention we were Jewish?), we were told there would be no present. We would be picking out a dog. And I remember driving home with her sleeping on Mom’s lap with her head on mine. Mom remembers her throwing up. I don’t remember that part.

I was close with my parents. And as I grew up I had the normal teen-angst. And as I write I’ll get into that. But I was oddly close with my parents. Some of my friends were like that too, but my family – we had this weird bond. Much different than any other family I ever knew. I told my mom everything. So much so that a lot of my friends wouldn’t tell me things because they feared I would tell my mom. 99% of the time they were right.

The point of all this isn’t some Augusten-esque peek into some crazy family who plays electro-shock therapy with each other and has a masterbatorium. Really, my family probably isn’t that crazy. We’ve done stupid things and made mistakes. Some of which I can write about, some of which I won’t. But really, we’re pretty normal. At least when you compare us to those obese mothers who whore their kids out on stage in glitter and tiaras, living vicariously through their five-year olds – I believe TLC already has a documentary about them called Stage Parents. There is no insect or excessive abuse. Perhaps a touch of alcoholism and addiction but, the craziest sexual escape you’ll read about is in the back of a Ford Taurus with no A/C on the side of a dirt road in the middle of a Florida summer with a guy named Bishop with faded tattoos.

And It’s not supposed to just be some laundry-list of memories. But I will warn you. I’m just going to be writing. I’m not looking back. I’m not fixing things. If I do, I’ll stop. I know I will. It’s always what happens. I’ve already made a mistake because I went back to add this in. Maybe additions are ok. And maybe deleting things to protect others are ok. And whether this is all fact, or all fiction, or a mix of both, well I don’t know. Like I said, I’ve always had trouble telling memory from dream. And I’ve always had trouble remembering order. So if someone I know reads this. Don’t be offended. Don’t say “Hey that didn’t happen” or “It didn’t happen like that” or “That happened, but not then.” Think of this as a steam of consciousness. Just let this happen. We’ll call it an experiment. We can edit this when I get to 100,000 words. You keep count though, because I’m not going to. And don’t judge. I have no problem turning off comments if someone comes on here and judges. This is taking strength. People make a lot of enemies writing. And if that happens so be it. But I’m not strong enough to take on judgment yet. So I guess that’s my “blog” warning. Because I will post these as I write them. When I write them. When I feel strong enough to write them.  And remember. I’m not looking back. So I have no idea what I wrote.

I’m not writing this to turn into the next best seller. If it works out like that? Fantastic. What English major doesn’t dream of writing the next big seller. Well, not including those who take the BA to just get through school and have no idea what they want to do. Or those who fly through it to become teachers or lawyers. Or journalists. I guess there are a few who don’t dream of writing. But really, this is for me. To try and figure out where I went wrong and ended up the way I did. Or maybe not to figure out where I went wrong, because maybe nothing went wrong. Maybe this is just may way of healing. My way of being ok with where life took me. And my way of letting go to move forward. But whatever it is, it is. This is my therapy. OK, and if it turns into a novel, I will be fucking thrilled.

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27 07 2009
Clo

Rowdy- I like it. It interests me, and I want to read more. I think it’s honest, and I think it’ll be good for you.

28 07 2009
lara21167

Rowdy, I think I can speak for all of us (the 3 that are left lol) that we all love you and we enjoy reading whatever you feel like writing and never will you be judged.

28 07 2009
Witchypoo33

Yup…(or, nope), no judging. Don’t even worry about it, Kiddo. We love ya…nothing but friends here.

Take care, Goldie.

28 07 2009
Clo

OK, so I started it. I dunno if I’ll keep up with it or not. But, here’s the link:
http://nothingmorethanapathy.blogspot.com/

It’s driving me nuts right now though because I really suck at HTML stuff and I can’t figure out how to get it to indent, so I think it looks weird, but oh well.

28 07 2009
Witchypoo33

Wow, Laura…I’m really impressed. I had no idea you could write such interesting, absorbing fiction. I loved it! Really. I think I know where you got the “inspiration” for this particular post – but I don’t know how much you want said here…a semi-public spot. That was REALLY good…you have nothing to be shy about. I’ll happily read anything you put up.

Nightie-night.

28 07 2009
Witchypoo33

Oh…and the name you picked for your blog? So original…and yet very easy to relate to. Again…just really good. That’s all I can think of to say…plain-spoken is my specialty when words don’t quite do the sentiment justice.

28 07 2009
Witchypoo33

Hmmm…between Goldie and Cloey writing their pieces, I don’t know how much enthusiastic interest I’m going to be able to sustain in the Bedroom Blog. You two are very talented writers.

28 07 2009
Clo

Thanks Witchy, and I’m not sure what you mean by the inspiration thing? It’s actually a semi true story… I was in love with my best friend Jason. He lived in Illinois, not Indiana though. And when he got married, I really went through hell trying to grasp why it wasn’t me. It’s hard, because I loved him so much that I just wanted him to be happy, and I knew he was happy with his wife, but I still had issues coming to terms with the fact that she wasn’t me.

As far as the title, Nothing more than apathy, is a line from a song, which I’m SURE you’ve heard, so I can’t take credit for it (Over my head, by The Fray? The first verse is: I never knew
I never knew that everything was falling through
That everyone I knew was waiting on a cue
To turn and run when all I needed was the truth
But that’s how it’s got to be
*It’s coming down to nothing more than apathy*
I’d rather run the other way than stay and see
The smoke and who’s still standing when it clears) Anyway, the whole songs kinda reminds me of me and Jason. Who, I no longer talk too. We tried to keep up the friendship after he got married. Or at least, I tried, and it all just fell to hell.

But, I always thought it was an easy and relatable situation. So I thank you, for your kudos.

28 07 2009
lara21167

It’ll take me awhile to figure out how to post on your blog Cloey, so meanwhile i’ll post over here. That was very good, grabbed my interest right away. Much much better than Diary of J 🙂

28 07 2009
lara21167

Rowdy discussing first memories and such, made me think of my first memory and I couldn’t have been more than 2. It was apparently my brother’s first day at school, I’m assuming Kindergarden, he’s 3 years older than me. Anyhoo, my oldest sister (who is 16 years olders than me) walked him to the bus stop, taking me with them. What I remember is my brother getting on the bus and I put my foot on the step trying to follow him. The bus driver telling me “no, no you can’t come” my sister tugging my hand saying “no, no” and my brother looking at me meanly and feeling confused as to why I couldn’t go with him and why he was bad at me. Funny how memories are…

28 07 2009
lara21167

Supposed to say “mad” at me.

28 07 2009
Witchypoo33

Hi, Ladies. Cloey, yeah, that’s what I meant by “inspiration” – that it’s basically about you and your former best friend – but that you changed minor details. I wasn’t sure how much you wanted about it, (if any), discussed on this blog, since it’s semi-public. The two of you don’t talk at all anymore? How come? Is that hard on you, or is it just something you’ve accepted and moved on from? Did he know definitively about your feelings when he got married?

Lara, your memory brings up universal themes of abandonment that most small children go through when someone in their lives leaves them for whatever reason. I mean, “abandonment” isn’t really abandonment in most cases, (like your older brother leaving on the bus without you)…but to a small child, it’s the same. The early experiences make a lasting impression hence, the lasting memory. I have one that goes back to before I turned 2…my mom says I was about 18 months. My early memories start really young, and my mom used to listen to my details to confirm whether or not I really remembered what I thought I did. I guess the memories are legit. She and I lived in Seattle then, and my mom was divorcing my biological father. We lived in an apartment, and I had a wandering habit. My mom was a pretty heavy sleeper in the am, (even before she started all the pills and drinking heavily), so I’d get up around 5:00 am and slip out of the apartment to go wandering. I remember this one time how she came up behind me in her car while our huge Collie dog, Germike, and I were hiking up a big hill, (Seattle is FULL of big hills). I knew as soon as I glanced in at her how mad she was, (probably also panic-stricken…but being so young I didn’t understand about parental worry – she just looked pissed as hell to me), so I didn’t really want to get in the car with her. She finally had to have my Grandpa install high locks on all the outgoing doors, and even then I managed to move light pieces of furniture to stand on and undo the locks.

Did you mention at some other time being close with that brother, Lara…or am I not remembering right?

28 07 2009
Witchypoo33

I’m probably asking too many questions…but that’s my natural inclination when people tell me personal things, (which is often). I like to get an accurate picture in my mind…rather than guessing or making assumptions that could be way off. Anyhoo, if anyone ever feels like something I ask is crossing into an invasion of privacy, just don’t answer, or say so, or whatever else. I hardly ever get into really personal things about myself with others, so I completely understand the tendency to keep things private. I’ve probably told you ladies more than I’ve told anyone, (with the exception of Jerry, and Beau when he asks me questions…Chance will ask things about my growing-up years once-in-awhile, also).

Just thought I’d throw that clarification out there so nobody feels put-out from being asked to elaborate in certain instances.

28 07 2009
lara21167

Witchy you can ask me anything, if it’s something I don’t want to answer I will politly say so. Yes me and my brother were pretty close growing up. Not so much anymore, he lives about 1hr and 1/2 away. None of my family lives close to me, except my step mother who I haven’t kept in touch with like I should have. she just has like a million and 1 problems and is the most depressing person in the world to talk to. No excuse to lose touch though…

28 07 2009
Clo

My first memories are Rowdys in the sense that I have a couple and I’m not sure which ones came first. I swear I remember witnessing a child across the street getting kidnapped, either that or snatched up by someone, but maybe it was a dream. I remember going out for one of my first birthday parties, I think it was 3 or 4, and seeing a pin-the-tail on the donkey game. I also remember using scissors to cut play-dough and cutting myself and wrapping the playdough around my finger as a bandage.

Jason and I don’t talk anymore at all. We used to be myspace friends, but when I checked recently he must have deleted me. We had been growing apart for awhile. He’d started changing. He used to be reliable, and whatever he told me I would believe, not because I was naive but just because he never lied to me. It started with a couple of huge blow out fights and us not talking for awhile, and then we kinda re-connected right before he went to boot camp, and then once he became a marine, he just… Changed. And I tried for a long while to hold onto things, but they just weren’t going back to how they were.

It still hurts, but it’s something that I know isn’t going to change so I’ve kinda accepted it. Everyone grows and changes. Sometimes they grow together, but me and Jay, we grew apart.

30 07 2009
lara21167

Good morning how is everyone today??

30 07 2009
Clo

I’m really really tired and sore, and all around cranky. I had my last day at camp today, and it was just a mess. For one, I usually come on Wednesdays, but switched to today so we could go to opening day at the state fair yesterday (which was fun, I took one of my old campers. But we walked around for HOURS and now I’m crazy sore.) But the schedule was all messed up, and I didn’t get to see one group, and had another “class” with 3 cabins at once, so… I didn’t get the one on one time I’m used too. So then on top of that, I had the youngest kids (the two groups I saw on their own.) do a different writing prompt than the oldest kids, because I figured the writing prompt I wanted to do with the oldest was a little too much for the youngest. So the oldest (which were the last 3 groups that I had together. I had MAYBE 30 kids, but I doubt it was that much.) and the writing prompt was “If you found out you had a week to live, what would you do? Who would you spend your time with? What would you say to your loved ones?” and I had FOUR, count them FOUR boys, who I had to pull aside and have them change their writings because they wrote about how they’d shoot people. And I mean, I totally hate to censor the kids, but… In this day and age, they just CAN’T write that stuff, you know? And it just made me sad, because two of them mentioned they’d just shoot random people. And then a couple more boys said they’d beat up anyone who had made them mad, and it’s just like. Really? That’s how you want to go out?

I dunno, bummed me out. How is everyone else?

31 07 2009
Witchypoo33

Hi, Ladies. Long time, no talk, hugh? Sigh…that’s so corny. Oh well. I’m just winding down from a busy, very hot week, and trying to get some energy back. It’s been in the high-90’s here, and very humid, and I’m still trying to get my asthma/allergies on track, (as is the rest of my family). That virus we’ve been fighting off really set off the more chronic symptoms, so I’ve been forcing myself to muscle through my running and workouts. Mind-control works to an extent; Beau has been working his butt off at speed/agility training, weight-training, and football camp. In these high temperatures, and with his breathing being somewhat difficult right now, it’s been challenging for him. He still runs all over guys who are a couple of years older than him, though. His coaches are telling him he’ll probably be able to suit up for varsity during the Friday night highschool games, even though they’ll only let a sophmore run a few series when things are looking good and chances are good that he won’t get hurt. It’s mostly for the experience of being with the varsity team, and a reward for working hard and achieving. Sophomores normally play on the jr. varsity football team; the difference in a year or two at these ages means a lot in size and strength, (nobody wants to see a 10th grade boy get seriously injured running up against guys older and more physically mature than him). Anyhoo, Beau is faster and stronger than a lot of the starting jr’s and seniors, but there’s the other teams to consider. Some of those guys look like mammoth wrestlers or something, they’re so huge. His coaches are moving Beau between fullback and tailback, with an emphasis on tail this year, since he’s gained so much speed in the last year. The runningbacks get tackled pretty hard by the opposing teams’ linebackers and whatnot; I’m just sending lots of positve strength/protection vibes Beau’s way. Chance is HUGE for his age…he’s almost as tall as Beau, and he just turned 13. The kid is going to be really tall, (I’m starting to have to look up at him already when we’re talking…it’s weird…overnight development, practically). Heath is really moving forward in his martial arts class, also; his instructor says that his strength and coordination are really good for a 4 yr-old; most of the kids in his class are a year or more older than him. Next week we’ll start storytime/crafts/get-to-know-you times at the preschool I registered him for last February. He’ll start in mid-September, and these weekly activity hours help the children to get used to the teachers and environment gradually, over the month of August. It’s also a good way for mommie to get “used to” the idea of her baby being out of her protective clutches for 3 hours a day, 3 days a week. I’m forcing myself to not get panicky or reluctant about it; it’s a positive thing for him, after all. Plus, I’ll be volunteering at least once a week there anyway…maybe more. I’m just a little weird when my boys start something new, (like school), for the first time. I mean, I hide it from them…I don’t want to make my guys hesitant or nervous. I was SO relieved when both Beau and Chance were thrilled to start kindergarten, and didn’t cry or hang onto me or anything. It would have been more-than-hard for me to disengage myself from a crying, clinging little guy…I don’t know if I could do it. I felt sorry for the mommies who had kids who were crying and leary, begging them to stay. I shudder just to think of it.

What a tangent I’ve gone on. Lately we’ve been hanging out at the river, (an area with no real current, and shallow spots for Heath), during the hot days. The boys have fun splashing and dunking each other, and checking out all the bikini-clad females. Everybody seems to bring their dogs, also, (Heath LOVES the dogs). I’ve met some really friendly people there…lots of nice ladies there with kids. The teenagers hanging out there are really nice, also.

Cloey…your kids that you teach: wow. I can’t imagine feeling as much anger as those poor boys you’re describing; that must really hurt them inside. I can understand why that would bumm you out. Just the fact that someone is there, (in this case, you), trying to show them something different though…that’s a very good thing. Sometimes our influence over another person’s life doesn’t manifest itself for many years, but it’s very valuable, nevertheless.

More later, Girls, and take care.

31 07 2009
Clo

Witchy, you must be so proud of your kids, I would be. They sound like they’re doing awesome, I’m actually really kinda excited for school to start again so I can see what your kids (and Laura’s) get into. Speaking of kids, Laura, hows your son doing?

I’m just really down about leaving camp this year for some reason. Part of it is that I feel like I didn’t get a proper goodbye, and part of it is I’m afraid I won’t see these kids again. Things are up in the air with the Settlement house that I work for. We usually go to an end of camp year staff dinner, and the Settlement pays. Kinda a way to unwind, recap, and say goodbye to the counselors. This year we can’t afford it. And there’s other things, my boss is talking about leaving, Sandra, our social worker is talking about leaving, and… If they do, I doubt I’ll be hired back. And I don’t know if I would WANT to get hired back. We changed directors of Feb. this year, and this new director… Well, I’m not around her so I can’t say anything, but it seems a lot of people have their doubts. I dunno if it’s because we had our old director, Mari for SO long, and it’s just issues with a new person… Or if she really just sucks. I kinda think it’s the latter. Mari used to come visit camp once a week to watch the skits the put on Fridays. Marsha, the new director, has come once.

I mean it compounds too, because I saw one of my old campers yesterday (the one we took to the fair.) And she’s having issues. She’s having the start of an eating disorder, she’s finally revealed that she got molested at age 7 by a cousin, her Dad’s doing Coke again… And in instances like this, it’s SO hard for me not to step in and just… Take her home. I want too, so so SO badly. I worry about my kids so deeply, and this year, I’m just really scared and it really almost hurts to leave them. I see so many amazing, wonderful, talented, smart people, and I just. I don’t want to see them lose that, ever. I don’t want to see them pick a life that’s not so great just because it’s the easy road, or because the doubt for a second that they’re not capable of more. They’re amazing kids, truly amazing, and while some people may look at them and see a bunch of ghetto hood rats… They’re wrong. And those kids need to prove them wrong.

I guess it’s kinda like you, Witchy, talking about how nervous you feel when your boys start something new. All the other years, I knew I’d be back to camp in some way, shape, or form, and this year I’m just iffy.

31 07 2009
Witchypoo33

I know, Sweetie…it’s a very heavy emotion to heft on your shoulders when uncertainty about someone else is weighing you down. Change itself is a condition that we’re told is the only “constant” in Life – and that’s true. But, it’s still unsettling…and sadness creeps in when we’re worried about the future of people we care for. Also, with this camp, and the kids in it, being such a significant part of your life all these past years…it’s no wonder you’re feeling at loose ends about not knowing what’s going to happen in the near future. So many great programs are being cut; sometimes it seems like the recession is a scapegoat for anything that’s difficult to finance – no matter how worthy these activities are for people in need. Also, I don’t understand how someone winds up in the position of “Director” of a kids’ program, who isn’t interested enough to show up and witness what he/she is “Directing”. It’s weird; you’d think someone in that kind of position would have priorities that relate to the actual kids he/she is ultimately in charge of. I guess so many things come down to bureaucracy…a dismal reality. Still, people like you DO make the difference; kids look back to adults they’ve had in their lives who helped them in various ways – and they always remember. Showing a kid you care about him/her also models for them how to show concern for someone else…how to extend a helping hand and reach out. I had a 3rd grade teacher like that, and I’ll always consider her a really special person. She really did make a difference in my life, in various ways.

31 07 2009
Clo

Well, she’s the director of the whole settlement house… Not a lot of people know about Settlement Houses, and if you’re interested in donating or volunteering, I would actually look into your area to see if you have any. I mean, I guess they’re kinda community centers. They were started WAY back in the day by Jane Addams, (they’re may only be on d in her name, I can’t remember.) Anyway, they had them over in Europe I think, but she started one when immigrants started coming here, because she saw there was a need to teach people how to read and write and do other skills, so they wouldn’t get ripped off. Settlement houses usually have several different programs. And, it seems to me, that each settlement house may “major” in one area (at least that’s how it is here) While all Settlements (again, all settlements here) tend to have basic similarities (childcare, after school programs, senior programs, a place to hold AA meetings, food pantryect.) Some tend to specialize in other areas. Like we have a Settlement here, the Godman Guild, that tends to focus a lot on education, especially GED programs. We have another settlement, the Neighborhood House, who owns several businesses, and give back by giving jobs to the community, and teaching them how to run businesses. Our Settlement House DOES tend to focus a lot on children – or at least, our old director, Mari did. I mean we have other programs, the food pantry, senior programs, ect. But… I dunno, as long as I’ve been there, the majority of the staff is childcare workers. She may be trying to change that, I don’t know. Technically my boss, Tommy, is the Camp Director, but he still answers to Marsha as the executive director.

31 07 2009
Witchypoo33

Oh, and thank you, Cloey…yes, I’m happy about my kids’ accomplishments and
strengths. Still, it would be easy to continually find something to worry about, if I let myself dwell in that direction; I try not to. What we really try to do more than anything else is talk to our guys about pretty much everything. One thing my kids know is that if they ask, we’ll usually tell them the truth about how things really are. Of course, that’s within reason; too much information that they’re not ready for isn’t good. That situation hardly ever happens, though; usually, if they ask, they’re ready for at least SOME sort of explanation.

Speaking of kids, how’s Cayden doing? I remember you saying recently that he was still trying to fight off a bug. Is that better?

Lara, Cloey already asked about Richie, but I”ll ask also: how’s he doing? Did you say that he might come to live closer and go to school around where you live? That would be great for you, hugh? Are he and Kristy close?

Hi, Goldie…I’ve been thinking about you. Anything new?

Yawn-yawn…it’s late. Nightie-night Girls, and take care.

31 07 2009
Witchypoo33

I don’t know what happened to the format in my last comment…I must have hit the space bar or something.

31 07 2009
lara21167

I just wrote a whole bunch and I don’t know if it is my work computer or the internet access. But I keep getting “page cannot be displayed” so I wrote a whole bunch and hit submit and got “page cannot be displayed” and my comment didn’t post.

Anyhoo. In short, Haven’t talked to Richie in a while. His 18th birthday is in one week. And he has to stay with his grandmother to finish school (still trying to help him figure out what he wants to do) Oh and first day of kindergarden with Richie, who was such a mamma’s boy, I took off work to see him off, he ran to the bus, was the first one on and didn;t even tell him goodbye. But that’s good anyway.

cloey it’s great how much you care for the kids at camp. You never know how by just caring you may make a big difference in a child’s life. I never heard of the settlement house. I don’t know if we have one or not. We have a Boys and Girls Club and a Girls Inc.

31 07 2009
lara21167

supposed to say he didn’t tell me goodbye…

31 07 2009
lara21167

Hey I wanted to tell you guys that I have applied to Kaplan College’s on line program. I’ve been accepted and will have $3,300.00 in Pell Grant the rest in subsidized and unsubsidized loans. And with my credits the admissions advisor said she will start me in the accelorated Bachelors Degree Program and I can finish in as little as 9 months!! I’m so excited!!

31 07 2009
Clo

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, I’m so excited for you Laura! I’m so glad you “took the plunge” so to speak and went back. And 9 months really isn’t that long! Congrats!

31 07 2009
lara21167

No it’s not long at all, I thought a good 2 years. I have an Associate Degree and actually have most of my credits for my Bachelors, but had to quit. Kristy was little, my niece started living with us and life was just too hectic. So this has been nagging me for a long time…

31 07 2009
Clo

I’m just insanely excited for you, I think it’s about time you did something for you, you always seem to be helping someone else or running around with your kids. Which, isn’t a bad thing at all, but sometimes we all need me time, ya know? Plus, I know it was a big, probably kinda scary decision to make. You’re taking on a lot, with a job and kids, and husband and school. But there’s no doubt in my mind that you’ll do well. I’m so proud! LoL.

1 08 2009
Witchypoo33

I second Cloey’s sentiment regarding your decision to finish your bachelor’s Sweetlara. That’s exactly what you deserve for yourself; congratulations, Sweetie! Isn’t it great to find out how close your goal actually is? 9 months…even a year – that will just seem like no time at all. I know it’s a significant step for you, with your family, job, etc; the really hard part is getting started, and you’ve done that. I’m proud of you, too. *eyes tearing up*…seriously, that’s better-than-awesome, mi-lady.

Take care.

1 08 2009
lara21167

Thank you very much, it’s funny my enrollment advisor asked who my support system was and I said my husband and daughter. I was on the phone with them for probably 2 hours and hung up and the hubby and daughter bothed bitched at me for being on the phone so long. I thought great support system lol. But I have you guys and I really appreciate it. My first class will start on August 26th. So I’ll keep you updated on how it goes.

1 08 2009
lara21167

Cloey I can’t comment on your blog I click on “post a comment” and it doesn’t do anything. Maybe something is blocked which is why no one is commenting??

1 08 2009
lara21167

By the way i really enjoy it. And did that guy really dump you 2 days before prom?? Friend date or not that was so wrong!! I didn’t go to prom. My senior prom, I had just started dating my first husband and he was 6 years older than me so I didn’t feel right asking him to take me and he didn’t think about prom being older so I missed out.

2 08 2009
Clo

Yeah Laura, you already mentioned that you were confused on how to comment, which is fine. I just sometimes start to feel dumb and self consious. I know I spelled that wrong, but i am super tired and don’t care. Bloggers weird, and you either have to sign up and in to leave a comment, or click something else. I’ll explain it in a little more detail later, but as I said, wicked tired.

No, he didn’t dump me two days before prom. A lot of what Jason does in the blog, Jason has done, but some of it is just made up for entertainment. Senior/Junior prom in my school was held together, and I got invited Sophomore year to go by a girl friend of mine (there was MAJOR drama around that involving a senior I had crushed on my freshman year who was accompanying a girl who was now a senior, but that’s a WHOLE different story.) Junior year I didn’t go, and Senior year I went with another girl friend.

2 08 2009
Clo

Sorry about last night, I wanted to comment but my brain just wasn’t working right. I had gotten up at 8 to go down to southside to say goodbye to my kids and go out to breakfast with the staff, but I hadn’t gone to bed till like 4 or 5. And then I was running around all day with some of the counselors and on top of that I was so emotionally drained it was crap, lol.

2 08 2009
lara21167

I know I can’t go off a little sleep, I need my 8 hours to function lol. Luckily I sleep well. Hubby doesn’t though and tends to keep me awake when he can’t sleep. Of course he says I’ve been grinding my teeth at night and keeping him awake. I think I need to call my doc and get him to up my paxil. It was working great, now not so much…

3 08 2009
lara21167

Ya’ll think something’s wrong with the author of 15 miles?? I noticed she didn’t post this morning. And when I read the comments realized she didn’t post Friday either. The one up is actually Thurs. And normally I wouldn’t worry about someone not posting, but Valerie has been like clockwork with her posts. So it seems strange…

3 08 2009
Clo

I was thinking the same thing, but I wouldn’t get worried until she doesn’t post for a day or two more. I mean she has a ten month old at home (I emailed her, she said her daughter is a week older than Cayden) so I know how that gets. Plus, it was the weekend, and I know I get strangly busy on the weekend.

3 08 2009
lara21167

She gave a brief update, “illness in the house” guess the little one is sick.

4 08 2009
Clo

I saw that, I can’t figure out if Cayden’s sick or teething. He feels a little warm at times, but it’s so slight that I don’t think it would be anything majors, he’s kinda sleepy but has trouble sleeping (he’s been waking a lot.) he gets kinda cranky and has a runny nose, so we go back and forth between a summer cold and teething. He’s supposed to be getting his uppers, so… Who knows?

Witchy I see you and your best friend are sending out love messages on the cosmo blog, lol.

It’s my sisters birthday today, so happy birthday to her. We’re getting ready to head out for lunch so I better go!

4 08 2009
lara21167

Yea, that sounds like teething, Clo. And Happy Birthday to your sister!!

Witchy I’m sorry I was laughing at the little exchange between you and your best bud NY. She does seem to pick apart everything you write in your comments, then acts so innocent. I think she wants to be “leader of the pack”!!

4 08 2009
Witchypoo33

Hee-Hee, yes Ladies…laugh it up at Witchy’s expense – I can take it. I find something about that person to be SO irritating…maybe it’s just the way she pokes at anything I happen to say. I also think she’s, (I’m assuming this person is a “she” by her personal stories…though, you never know who could be fabricating stories and facts), incredibly biased and one-sided – to the point of being rigid. It’s like she can only relate or give credence to theories with great similarity to her own, personal experience. I guess “narrow” would be the way I read her comments. She’d be easy to ignore if she’d just keep her yap shut about what I say. And yes, Lara…she sounds like a total douche with her innocent, “Who ME?” act whenever I figuratively blow her off. Nice attitude I’ve got going on about her, hugh? I told you she annoys me, and I don’t feel like working to cover it up. Snicker-snicker.

Tell Sissy “HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!” from Witchy, Cloey. Hope your lunch with her is fun. Yup…sounds like your little man is teething. Give him an extra smooch from me. Speaking of little men, my bouncing dynamo, Heath had his first storytime/craft/playground time at preschool today. It’s the getting-to-know-you August Tuesdays I mentioned before. Both of our older boys came also; they took pictures of Heath singing and doing the little dances in circle-time, and also of him making his craft and on the playground. It was really cute. One thing though: when Beau had him pose for a picture on the jungle gym, Heath got the cutest smile on his sweet face to pose… then lifted both his hands up to flip-the-bird at the camera. Yup!!!!! Talk about distracting and embarrassing. We were self-consciously giggling and looking around to see if anyone had caugh it, and nobody noticed. I know-I know…you’re thinking how terrible it was for a little 4 yr-old to do that…especially at a church-based preschool function. Well, he’d seen Beau do it a couple of times, (Beau was screwing around, looking for a humorous reaction from me, of course)…it only takes once for the little guys to parrott right back to you what they see. Anyhoo, after giggling and performing routine surveillance, we took little-man aside and explained why he can’t do that, etc. He already knew it was a no-no…he just wanted to elicit some chuckles and raised eyebrows from us. Mission accomplished.
Sigh…I told you my guys are a handful, (they’re good boys overall, though).

Take care, Ladies.

5 08 2009
Witchypoo33

supposed to read, “caughT”…

5 08 2009
Clo

Witchy, I think stuff like that’s OK. I mean my Mother in law gets on me hardcore for dropping the f bomb in front of Cayden or something, but I think when you make it taboo is how you give it power, you know? I mean, Cayden at some point is going to drop a F bomb of his own, regardless if I say it in front of him or not. And I’d much rather him know when and how to use it, you know? I mean if it’s me and him and we’re joking around (kinda like Heath or Beau) then I’m fine with it. But, like you, I’d explain: at school it’s a big no no.

When does he start “real” school? It’s so cute that his brothers are excited. I know a lot of brothers don’t like their younger brothers, but they really seem to adore him.

Laura when do you start school?

5 08 2009
lara21167

Oh yes so hard to keep from laughing when the little ones do something like that. My kids have been around people cussing all there lives. Richie cusses now, and will in front of me a little bit. He’s respectful enough not to go overboard. Kristy won’t even say “hell” or “damn” (at least not in front of me) even if it’s like Heaven or Hell or dam like “beaver dam” kind of funny. When they were just learning to talk of course they’d here a word and say it. But I just told them (after I turned my head and laughed) that that is a “bad word” and not to say it. Since I didn’t make a big deal out of it, they didn’t say the words. Now what I think is terrible is when people teach little ones to say bad things, like my nephews dad teaching my nephew to call women bitches. That made me mad. He still does it sometimes.

Cloey I start August 26th. I’m not sure how to proceed. I’m in the system, but no classes scheduled yet. I’ll have to call. I think I can take 2 classes at a time, which I’ll do to try to get done faster. They have me down for advanced Bachelors Degree in Business Administration though. And it was supposed to be a BS in Accounting. But I’m thinking about leaving it the way it is. May be more opportunities in different areas with a BS in Business Administration. I love accounting (yes I’m a nerd) but it does get boring at times. What do you guys think??

5 08 2009
Clo

Laura, I don’t know what the difference is between the two?

We finally got Cayden’s invites done and will be sending them out soon. The other day I was talking about how much easier the internet makes things (we found a cardmaker online and made and printed our own invites, plus I’ve found lots of things we plan to order for his party.) But then I was thinking today, I wonder if easier makes things more complicated. Like yeah, I can find bulk rubber duckies on ebay for cheap, but if I couldn’t, wouldn’t I just do without? It was so hard to narrow down our choices for his theme, because we just had so many options. I mean in a way, it is nicer, and easier, because I have more choices, but in a way, I’m so stressed trying to figure out if we have anything and when I need to order things to make sure I have enough and all that jazz.

Plus, ALL my friends want an invite to his party. Which, whatever, if they want to come, they’re welcome. But then like 6 out of 20 will end up actually coming. This year I wanted to do invites because it was his first birthday, and I wanted to stick it in his baby book, but next year I may stick to evites and only do real invites for family without email.

5 08 2009
lara21167

First birthdays are so much fun. And yes there are so many choices today for themes and everything. Oh and since this is your first Cayden will be excited and tired later and be cranky and plain bratty 🙂 Just seems like that;s the way birthdays are.

Ok, Accounting is just that, accounting, bookkeeping, keeping the records of a business. Presenting financial statements and such. Business administration is more for preparing for management positions you can emphasize Human Resources, Finance, Accounting, and marketing and such. I’m leaning that way and I have had my upper level accounting courses anyway… And who knows that may be better for when my Avon Business takes off and I can do it full time and make tons of money 🙂 Ok a girl can dream right?? And there are alot of ladies out there that are doing just that!!

5 08 2009
Clo

Well, if administration also includes accounting, I would go that way. I mean, it seems like you just have more options with that one, ya know?

5 08 2009
lara21167

Yes there are more options I think, I’m thinking of going wild with an emphasis in marketing :). I think I need a change of pace so to speak. I still have a lot of working years left.

Are you going to be able to post pics or whatever of Cayden’s invitiations? I’d love to see them.

5 08 2009
Clo

It’s like a really odd file, so I dunno if I can post it, but I can probably take an actual picture of one and post it for you guys.

6 08 2009
Witchypoo33

That would be nice, Cloey, (seeing a picture of Cayden’s invitation).

Lara, considering you already have your high-level accounting credits anyway, it’s probably a good idea to go with the broadest degree possible, like the business administration degree you mentioned…more options for you later on that way.

6 08 2009
lara21167

Kind of what i was thinking Witchy. How is everyone’s day going??

6 08 2009
Witchypoo33

Not bad. I’m doing tax business…blech.

6 08 2009
Witchypoo33

Cloey…I commented back to you from the other day, (Tuesday), but I forgot to check that my name and email were in the boxes, so it didn’t take what I wrote. 9 times out of 10 the information will already be there, and I’ll still remember to check it before I submit. Naturally, on the 10th, I forget, write a bunch, then lose it when I submit. Then I get exasperated and think, “forget it!” for a while. Anyhoo, yes, Beau and Chance do adore Heath, and vice-versa. That doesn’t mean they don’t ever get annoyed with his antics, (a polite way of putting it), or worn out by some of his 4yr-old demands, (“Take me outside! Play the car-racing game with me! No, I want it NOW! I’m hungry! I’m thirsty! Mom said YOU HAVE to read to me RIGHT NOW!”…the list goes on and on. They’re pretty darn patient, though. Plus, Beau gives him a shower every night, and they both read to him everyday, play with him a lot, lay down with him to get him to fall asleep faster, etc. They also like to go to martial arts and watch his “great form” while he practices various kicks and all that. They’re really good big-brothers. You asked when Heathness starts preschool…it’s mid-September, and will be 3 days per week, 2 1/2 hours per day.

What’s everyone else up to?

7 08 2009
lara21167

Well, I just got registered for my first 2 classes yay!! One is a horrible science class and the other a humanities. So I’m getting excited. I like doing tax stuff witchy. Although as I said I’m ready for a bit of change.

7 08 2009
lara21167

Oh Cloey I just read your update on your blog. That is soooo sad about your dog, I remember you talking on here about Parvo. And you are right that no one can love you like a dog. I go home after work and Kristy’s complaining about something. Hubby is complaining about something else. But there is Ginger jumping all over me so happy that I’m home.

Today is my son’s 18th birthday and I’m sad. I doubt I’ll get to see him. I’m going to call him here in a bit, probably not up yet. Oh how I’d love to go back 18 years so I can experience the birth of my first born all over again.

7 08 2009
Witchypoo33

Oh, Sweetlara…you sound so wistful and nostalgic today. Looking back is bittersweet sometimes – necessary, but those heartstrings do take a beating. Don’t be sad for too long, Sweetie. Think about what a terrific young man you have, and go lavish some affection on him, (whether in person, or over the phone, or whatever).

Take care.

8 08 2009
Clo

Sorry, just wanted to check in cuz I know I’ve been MIA. We took a group of kids to Kings Island (an amusement park, it was actually featured on an episode of the Brady Bunch once.) But I’m SUPER tired, so I wanted to check in, say I’m not dead, and that I’ll try my hardest to get on tomorrow and catch up.

And Rowdy, I keep meaning to email you. Again, I’m super bad at it, but I miss you and hope things are going better.

8 08 2009
Clo

Laura- I had a moment like you were having on the bus back from Kings Island. We went with a group of kids from the Settlement, and my boss brought his daughters, one of them I’ve know since before she could walk or talk. And it’s just crazy, because here they both are, chattering away, walking around, riding all these rides at Kings Island, and it’s just… Totally crazy. Then I started thinking about Cayden, and how we’re preparing for his first birthday, and it all just went by so fast. Where, exactly, did this last year go?

I think we’ll start trying for another baby here soon. We’ve been kind of trying already, but mainly it’s been we’re not trying to prevent, where as we’re not actively trying, if that makes sense. I’m actually late right now, but I have no signs of pregnancy like I did with Cayden, and these past couple months I’ve been late, so I’m kinda whatever about it.

We went to Kings Island yesterday and I love love love amusement parks, but it’s so funny because I hate riding most of the rides. They got me on one coaster, and I was pissed because I didn’t really want to ride it, and I almost backed out but my riding partner like, pushed me on, and then they’re trying to snap me in, and the thing only clicked twice, and the lady was like “it’s supposed to click three times” So they’re trying to click it, and it won’t go, so I’m like good I can’t ride, and the lady was like “Oh no, I *think* you’ll be fine.”
And I’m like, wait you “think”, and I’m trying to get off, and she hits the start button and we just take off. I cursed up a STORM. Just from start to finish, it was mother f’ers and you son’s of… I was SO mad. But, I lived.

So then we rode the water rides, which I love. And I got a really cute picture of some of us on this wildthornberry log ride thing. It’s on a keychain but I’ll see if I can scan it into the computer or something. We got wet, then went on this white water rafting ride and got super wet, and then to top things off, my bosses daughter had been BEGGING me to take her on this bikini bottom splash thing, and I’m like, how much worse can it be then the white water rafting ride? It’s a walk though ride, so I go in, and like, it’s just a few sprays of water, so I’m like, no big deal, and then you walk more and it’s just… Water. Pouring from the ceiling, you can’t avoid it, it was a mess. I was SO soaked, and no change of clothes and then it was time to get on the bus.

All in all, it was fun, and I can’t wait till Cayden’s old enough and we can go. I’ll have pictures up on myspace here soon.

9 08 2009
lara21167

When I was younger I loved roller coasters. No way I’d get on one now. lol. Especially if the seat belt didn’t fasten right!! One time when Richie was little and Kristy was a baby we went to Hershey Park in Hershey PA, only a couple hours from where I live. Anyhoo, Richie wanted to get on this water ride and it had this super huge drop and neither my hubby or I wanted to get on the thing with him, but one of us had to. So we got something to eat where we could sit and watch the ride. So by the time we started over to it, luckily they shut it down for repairs. Richie was disappointed, but me and Joey were happy!!

So I couldn’t get ahold of my son yesterday which really upset me. His grandmother could at least answer the phone or call me back and let me know where he is. That is really started to piss me off.

9 08 2009
Witchypoo33

Yes, Lara…that is really inconsiderate of her; does she do that on purpose, (out of a possessive tendency), or is she just not thinking? Still, an 18th birthday, (any birthday, actually), is important. Kids/young people don’t always think about those things…but she should have made a point to have him call you. Did you get to talk to him yesterday, (Saturday)?

10 08 2009
lara21167

Yes, he called me Saturday and Sunday so I did get to talk to him. He’s getting ready for school, just a couple classes he has to take. I keep pushing him on what he wants to do for a living. He doesn’t really know right now. I didn’t either at his age. And I don’t know if his grandmother does that on purpose or not, sometimes I think she does. But I can’t say that for sure.

10 08 2009
Clo

Laura- I’m paranoid, so I’d assume she’s doing it on purpose, lol. But, that’s just me. Have you ever said anything about it?

My friend just got into it with her Mom because she has a newborn son (he’s like, 2-3 months old.) and her Mom got all bent out of shape because my friend questioned where her son was, and what he was doing… Sometimes I think parents of parents get SO freaking sensitive over that stuff. Like my Mom will snap at me if I tell her to do something a certain way. I’ve always promised myself that I’d remember how it was when I was a new Mom. To not push advice and to not get mad with a new Mom when she was maybe being a little over protective.
I think I may have fixed why you couldn’t comment on the blog. For some reason (it must have come automatically set this way) I had it so you couldn’t post unless you were a registered user.

How was everyone elses weekend?

10 08 2009
lara21167

Ok, I’ll try to post and see what happens.

I’ve mentioned to Richie about his “Nanny” not giving him my messages and he just laughed, so I’d say she does it on purpose. And I know what you mean about parents of parents. I’ve been guilty of that myself. Making fun of mothers of perfectly healthy newborns making everyone use hand santizer before picking up the baby. I’d say just wash your hands that’s what we did back in the old days!! But I do try to respect a new mother’s way of doing things, whether or not I agree. And I try to keep my comments to myself lol.

So I didn;t really do anything this weekend. We are having our first heatwave of the summer lol. Hasn’t been too hot all summer, now it’s hot/humid and miserable, but I love it. I love summer.

10 08 2009
Clo

Saturday Jeremy worked to make up for Friday when he called off to go to Kings Island. Which, reminds me I need to upload those pics. Sunday he was so worn out he just wanted to lay around the house, so that’s what we did.

It feels warm here, but honestly I haven’t been outside in 2 days, lol. And I’m always randomly hot.

It’s just crazy to me that summer is almost over. Cayden’s about to be one, he’s doing so many things I just never pictured him doing, including being really annoying, lol. I’ve been working on this post for seriously an hour because I have to keep leaving to rescue him from certain death (like trying to pull the table over that has Jeremy’s really heavy drill battery it? He’s already fallen and hit his head on the entertainment center.) I’ve told Jeremy we need to baby proof a hundred times and he just doesn’t get it. Of course, the majority of the time, isn’t here, chasing after baby. So.

11 08 2009
lara21167

Oh how I remember those days. You look forward to them crawling and walking then wish you could go back to when you could lay them down and they’d stay there lol. Enjoy the one’s thats like the cutiest time IMO.

12 08 2009
Clo

I’m not a fan of Cayden right now. First, horrible night last night. I’m not sure what his deal was, he just wasn’t a happy camper, just wanted to be held, and for awhile that was nice because we never get to really hold him anymore, as he always wants to be on the go. But then it started to remind me of his newborn days because he’d fall asleep and when we’d lay him down he’d be up ten minutes later freaking out. Then there’s this whole crawling thing. He’s into everything and is constantly trying to kill himself. I feel like I can’t do anything because I can’t leave him alone for two seconds, and when I bring him with me (like to fix him lunch, go to the bathroom) if I can’t hold him, then he’s off again. Then after the horrible night, I was expecting he’d sleep well this morning. Nope, he was up earlier than normal, and while he’ll usually go back to sleep for me like right away (usually he gets up at 8:30, I change his diaper, give him a bottle, and he’s ready to go back to bed for at least another 2 hours, sometimes longer.) Nope. He woke up at 8, I did the deal, and he was back up at nine. Now it’s 10 and I fed him breakfast and everything and if he doesn’t go back to bed soon we aren’t going to be able to go out to lunch with Jeremy as planned because he’ll be taking a nap during that time. To top it all off, he’s learned how to do this REALLY loud, really long, really high pitched scream. Annnnnnd it’s his new favorite thing. That’s how he wakes up, goes to bed, plays, talks to me, gets my attention, everything.

It’s so not cute.

12 08 2009
lara21167

Oh the joys of motherhood. My 12 year old still gets into everything (always has to touch things, like in stores and all) and still makes loud annoying noises lol.

13 08 2009
Clo

Anyone heard from Rowdy? I emailed her and haven’t got a response which, really worries me.

13 08 2009
lara21167

No I haven’t, I’ve been wanting to email her, but thought maybe she just needs some space. I’ll try. And Rowdy if you are reading this, just check in and let us know you are ok.

13 08 2009
Witchypoo

I emailed Goldie a while back, (maybe 10 days ago?), and haven’t heard from her. Goldie, how are you? We’re just checking in, Sweetie.

13 08 2009
lara21167

Well now I’m ashamed of the town I live in. There was a “town hall meeting” at our local community college with Senator Carden (SP?) about Obama’s Health Care plan. And some idiot protestor had 2 signs, one said “death to Obama” and the other said “death to Obama, Michelle, and their 2 stupids kids” Now the first one is bad enough, but don’t bring kids into it. Well the secret service has the guy and are investigating him.

14 08 2009
Clo

I emailed her too and haven’t heard anything, soooo I’m really kinda worried now.

Cayden’s birthday is getting out of hand. But, it’s not like I’m really going overboard or anything. I want too, but, what’s the point, really? He won’t remember so… It’s mainly for me. And I’ve been reading about other peoples parties to get hints and stuff, and some people went nuts. I mean their invitations alone were like, hand made sculptures. One lady talked about how she was doing two parties to split the kids – just the kids – into groups of 25-30. That’s 50-60 kids ALONE, not including any adults she wants to invite. For a ONE year olds party. We have 12 kids, IF all the kids even come, which I don’t think they will. We did invite like, 50-60 people though, which is insane, but we can’t cut it down because it’s people who would be REALLY hurt if they didn’t get invited (most of it’s family anyway)

Let me ask you guys something… When you went to a one year olds party, you, as an adult, didn’t expect a party favor, did you? Because I’m making goody bags for the kids, but don’t really have anything for the adults. And goody bags, by the way, are freaking expensive! I thought it was crazy that some party stores charged 5 bucks for a boxed favor, but I get it now! We spent like forty bucks tonight alone on favors. And got cheap, plastic, made in china bullshit. It’s crazy. And I mean, I looked for deals, and ended up ordering everything offline, because it was cheaper than buying in store, even with shipping and handling, and we still have so much more to buy. It’s just, insane.

But, we’re almost done with everything except food, which, it was super dumb of me to say I was going to do it at lunch and have a cookout, because that’s going to kill us too.

I can’t wait until he’s older and I can just pay per child to have his birthday somewhere. I thought it was so expensive, but seeing as how most places provide the venue, food, drink, gift bags, clean up, decorations, and entertainment? So, so, SO worth it.

14 08 2009
Clo

Oooh, Witchy, speaking of birthdays, for your boys if they have a birthday in the summer (I think you said maybe Chance does? My memory is horrible, so forgive me for not remembering.) You may want to look into taking them to a minor league baseball game (And Laura, this can go for you, too, if Kristy likes baseball) if you have a team near you. I looked into it for my sister and brother’s birthdays, and you get like, a lot of stuff for not that bad of a price. I mean, if you were going to have a billion kids, than yeah, but they have different “levels” I guess you would say, and different things you can get, the cheapest runs 13 per kid, and 16 dollars per adult, and the most expensive is 20 per adult and 17 per child. Each one comes though with food, drink, tickets to the game, snacks, a cake, and a mini bat. At least, here. It might be worth it to check it out in your area. You can add on things too, like a hat or a ball for the kids and other food choices. I dunno, I thought it was neat. I wish Cayden’s birthday was going on during baseball season.

14 08 2009
lara21167

That is a neat idea, the baseball party. My daughters friends mothers and i have all agreed that Middle School marks the end of official birthday parties lol. A few friends over cake icecream, a movie, skating, something like that. But no official party. No party bags or favors for adults. Just the kids. And do you have a dollar store, the “Everything is a dollar” store . they are great for finding party favors. Richie had a friend growing up, they had huge parties for him. They had shrimp and everything.

14 08 2009
lara21167

One of our employees hit a car yesterday in a company truck and drove away. The guy never said a word to anyone. Just parked the truck and left. This guy always seems kind of out of it. Another employee told me the guy is on morphine for a pinched nerve in his back and was so out of it he was sent off the job he was working on. Why his supervisor let him drive I don’t know. The way the cop talked the lady he hit, car is totalled. Funny how my bosses are trying to keep it all hush, hush.

14 08 2009
Witchypoo

HI Ladies. Lara, your bosses are probably worried about getting sued, and maybe they don’t want that fact and accompanying details being spread around by the employees. It looks like you meant that the lady’s car he hit didn’t have the lady or anyone else in it at the time of the accident? Driving on morphine? I was on morphine in the hospital when I had my foot operated on…I was completely out of it. I don’t know how anyone would drive while taking that.

Cloey, no, you certainly aren’t expected to provide party favors for adults at a child’s birthday party. I’d say with Cayden being so young, you didn’t even have to provide them for other kids, but it’s nice that you thought about the other children. Yeah, those parties sure can get expensive. When Beau was younger, his birthday parties were almost a little overwhelming, since his birthday is right after Halloween. So, I’d have a kids’ Halloween party, (I love Halloween parties), Beau’s birthday party for kids, and then a his birthday party for just family/grandparents, (they get tired of being around all the screaming kids and hoopla at the younger parties). Anyhoo, by the time we were through, we’d have thrown 3 parties right in a row. Beau and Chance loved it, though. You’ll probably find that after the big #1, you’ll pare down the guest list for Cayden’s parties that come after. It’s always the first birthday party that’s so huge and crazy. It’ll get easier.

What’s everyone up to today?

14 08 2009
Witchypoo

Goldie…if you’re reading this anytime soon, will you check in just to let us know how things are going?

Take care, Sweetie.

15 08 2009
Clo

I just don’t know what to do with this party. Like I have
the kids can play, but then there will be a lot of adults too. I mean there’s a playground. I figure kids can just go play, right?

I mean if all the kids were Cayden’s age, I’d just say forget about it. There’s nothing they really can have anyway. But, I think there’s only one or two babies invited that are around his age (ones 3 months younger, ones a little older.) And I don’t know if they’ll even come. I just thought a duck theme would be so easy, and it’s really not. All the duck themed things we’ve found in stores is baby showers, even though a lot of online places have duckie themes for a first birthday, so, I don’t get that. We ordered a lot of rubber duckies, I’m going to use those as centerpieces and favors, tying balloons with them. We got a bubble machine, and plan on doing blue, white, clear, and yellow balloons around. I’m making a duck pinata, we’re doing a 3-d duckie cake. I got 12 decorate your own rubber duckies, so that’ll be fun, only I found out after I ordered them that you should use permanent markers, so now I’m like, kids + permanent markers = not a great idea. We got this inflatable duck bath tub that we’re using as a cooler. I’m looking for bubbles to put in the goody bags and all the bubbles and summer stuff are marked down now, so that’s good. I just hope it looks good, is all. I’m not good at decorating or planning things.

15 08 2009
Pam

I was thinking of you today and happened by here to see if you had done any new writing. I have to tell you this is some of the best you have ever done. You have strength that I don’t even think you have tapped into yet, and you make me proud.

15 08 2009
lara21167

Hi Pam and welcome. Cloey, you sound like you have everything under control. I can tell you are a perfectionist. Just relax it will go smoothly. And the kids will have tons of fun on the playground.

I hate these Saturday practices. Kristy has an hour and 1/2 dance practice. They are doing some really cool moves including the moon walk the Michael Jackson spin and up on the toes. Dance starts at 9:00 am then at 2:00 she has 3 hour cheer practice. They have a guy doing the coreography (sp?) then. It just kind of takes our whole Saturday.

17 08 2009
Clo

Ugh. sick. Not full blow yet but I can feel it coming. Slowly but surely, and boy I hate that.

And, anyone hear from Rowdy yet? Cuz, like. I emailed her with no response. And, even when she’s been crazy busy she’s been able to let me know. I’m really honestly concerned.

18 08 2009
lara21167

I emailed her too, and I know Witchy said she had. And no response. I don’t know I’m worried too.

Cloey hope you feel better…

18 08 2009
Clo

Thanks, I’m not sure what it is I have. My throat keeps feeling gummy and hurting, and then it’ll stop and I feel fine. I was sure yesterday I was getting a cold and felt generally crappy, but today I feel better, with kinda a hoarse voice and a slight headache.

I am worried about Rowdy. If anything happened to her, how would we know? I already told Jeremy that if something would happen to me, I wanted him to come let you guys know.

It’s just really unlike her to stay quiet for this long. I mean, like i said before, even when she got busy, she’d send me an email like “I’m fine, just crazy busy, update when I can.” and it’s been like, total silence. I should check her myspace to see when she last logged on, but I dunno if that would be reliable, because she said she didn’t get on myspace much.

19 08 2009
Witchypoo

Uh-hugh, Cloey…please do check Goldie’s Myspace when you can; I can’t imagine why she’d go so long without at least just checking in quickly to let us know what to think.

Along those same lines, I think it’s incredibly considerate, and…loyal?, (for lack of a better word), that you’d think to consider us in circumstances like you described. Going so far as to talk to your husband about it? That’s really touching, Cloey. I’m going to tell my guy the same thing. I feel a little funny about using “real” first names now…since so many possible readers were given access to this blog url. I don’t know why I feel hesitant about it…I just do. Maybe because it’s late, (11:26 pm), and I’m a little bleary-minded, anyway…I don’t know. Anyway, I’m worried about Goldie, also…my anxiety in certain situations tends to overlap into others sometimes when I’m worried. Shit-fuck-damn.

Take care, Girls.

19 08 2009
Witchypoo

Ok…that wasn’t the nicest way to wrap things up for the evening, I know. Nightie-night, Ladies – get some rest.

19 08 2009
lara21167

I woke up this morning and my throat and tongue kind of hurt. Maybe there is something going around. J from Diary of J is sick so who knows.

Sorry guys, I don’t think my hubby would bother to tell you guys if I get run over by a freight train on my way home from work lol. Just trying to add a little humor to a serious topic. Anyhoo, I should probably let my oldest sister know to get word out. You just never know and I would hate for you ladies to forever wonder why I disapeared. So back to Rowdy, I cant’ think of her name right now but Rowdy’s friend that posts on here occasionally maybe she could let us know how Rowdy is doing, if you are reading this by chance???

19 08 2009
Witchypoo

Good morning, Ladies. Yeah, Lara – good idea. Belle, if you’re reading this, do you know what’s going on with Goldie?

Take care, Girls.

19 08 2009
Clo

Oh man, I thought I posted last night, but Idk what happened to it. I may have never pressed submit.

Rowdy emailed me last night. She says she’s fine, just taking time to get her head on straight so she hasn’t been online. So.

Laura, I don’t like J from diary of J, and I don’t really buy that she’s sick. I mean her blog is OK, I don’t think it’s great and I kinda can’t stand that she’s like “why do I always get sucked into drama?” when it’s like, you didn’t get sucked in, you jumped in. Yeah, she doesn’t have to respond to her ex, or tell him her business. But she does to perpetuate the drama. And I mean, to each his own, but don’t bitch about hating drama, you know? Then there’s the fact that she complained about Bedroom blog being late and all that, and she’s been late like, every time. And I mean, yeah she’s not getting paid for it, but we’re not paying for bedroom blog, so I don’t see how we have a right to demand a post. And then, I just find it hard to believe that she had time to post that stupid thing about the cutest dog thing, and then comment on it twice, but no time to post. And even if she is sick, it’s like, you’re gonna sit up in bed and hand write it out, but not sit up at the computer and write for like, five minutes? I just don’t buy it. I read it to pass time, but it’s like, the more I read, the more she does something to tick me off, lol.

And my throat continues to hurt on and off, Laura.

19 08 2009
lara21167

Cloey I have really learned to trust your judgement of people lol. I’m naive and tend to blindly believe what people tell me, but I do agree with you on J. She does seem to be one of those drama loving girls that complains constantly about all the drama in her life. But they look for it, you know.

I am sooo glad you heard from Rowdy, at least we know she’s ok, working on getting better.

And I think the AC causing my throat to hurt some, and my nose to stuff up and run. Because I can sit in here at work and get all stuffy then go outside and it clears right up.

Well Kristy started back to school today, still hate how early they have to go back but at least I don’t have to worry about what she’s going to do every day. I talked to her on the phone, seemed happy with her first day.

19 08 2009
Witchypoo

I haven’t even read ‘Diary Of J’…I barely have time to keep up with what I do, sometimes.

Siiiiiiii—gh. So relieved to hear, (see), you say that Goldie is ok. You start to imagine so many things, you know? *Hug* to you, Goldie. We’re thinking of you, even when you’re not “visible”.

Take care, Ladies.

19 08 2009
Clo

Yeah. I don’t think J is bad per say, just young. And I mean, she’s probably around my age, but she just acts super young to me. It’s also one of my pet peeves when people whine about drama and then go looking for it, and then whine about how they have so much of it. Just either admit that you like the drama, or stop creating it. I mean, I like drama. I do. And occasionally having a little bit of it in my life from time to time keeps things exciting. But I did my deal where it was all drama, all the time, and now I’ve learned when to ignore people or when to jump in with my two sense.

I dunno, she just irritates me. And I mean, it’s my fault too, lol, if she irritates me so much I could stop reading. But, it kills the time.

My throat would go on and off hurting and not hurting. I got really stuffy last night and was all prepared for a cold to hit, but nada. I’m worried, I haven’t been sick in awhile, so I’m thinking when it hits, it’s going to really hit.

And yeah, I was worried about Rowdy too. I was like, jumping for joy when I saw that she had emailed me, lol.

20 08 2009
Clo

So, I’m not reading Diary of J anymore, lol. I just thought her last comment was over the edge. I mean, I thought what people said was right, that she was flaking off a lot, and people had a right to get upset. I mean stuff happens, I get that but don’t get mad when people don’t want to deal with your problems anymore, you know? Plus, that last comment she made? About going through more than any of us have? Was really immature, childish, and just… Wrong. Plus you don’t start off a comment by saying you can criticize me, only to turn around and then berate people for doing just that. I think when you write a blog you open yourself up to that kinda stuff. I mean were someone to go on my blog and say “I hate it” or “I didn’t like how this happened” I’d be whatever. But I also think it’s insane that she got on Cosmo’s site all pissy about RS feeds or whatever, which is a MUCH bigger site than hers, which means it probably takes longer for glitches to be fixed, especially since the glitch happened right after a major site overhaul and they probably had no idea that a.) the RS feed was messed until someone told them and b.) what caused it to happen. And is crying because she’s been late on EVERY post, and then people get upset. Especially since she did post on that dog thing, and never said she was sick or anything. It’s like you feel like keeping up or you don’t, but don’t promise people stuff and then get mad. And I’ve been patient on the cosmo site with things happening. But time and again they told us post would be delayed over stupid stuff because the author has “drama” (which, sorry but reading her life drama is probably breaking a nail) yeah, I’d be getting upset too.

So, that is my rant of the morning. How are you guys?

20 08 2009
lara21167

I haven’t read the comments on Diary of J yet. Have to get over there lol. Yes J can be defined as a “victim” personality. Everything happens to her. Like you said she brings it on herself.

Anyhoo, how are you feeling today?

Hey I have a question, have any of you had a cyst on your overies, I think Rowdy mentioned she did. I have a bleeding cyst that the doc said should go away on it’s own. It stopped bothering me so I didn’t get rechecked like I was supposed to. Now it seems to have gotten worse. I have pain on my right side and some back pain now and again. I guess I should go back to the doc. I just don’t know what they really do for them.

20 08 2009
Clo

I’ve never had a cyst anywhere. I know Rowdy has them, but I can’t really remember what she said they do for them. I would def. go back to your doc.

20 08 2009
lara21167

Yea I will, I was going to wait until my next yearly exam, but I guess I should just go sooner. i’m bad about going to the doc, because taking off work and it just never seems to be a good time. Ok so I enjoyed the “drama” in the comments of Diary of J. And I didn’t like her comment of having gone through more than anybody either and neither did anyone else. I think that remark will lose her alot of readers. I’ll continue to read because it’s like starting a book and not finishing, just can’t seem to do that.

20 08 2009
Witchypoo

Hi Ladies. Yes Lara…definitely go to your doctor asap. Even if the cyst isn’t dangerous, (hopefully it’s not, of course)…it sounds like a rapid-growth one. Also, pain in your lower back and side? You don’t want to screw around with that. Make the appointment for as close to immediately as you can, because if they want to schedule an ultrasound or x-ray or some time of imaging procedure, you may have to wait for that, also. Tell them you’re in A LOT of pain…to the point of having your regular activities affected; they’ll be more likely to move faster on it. I’m sorry for sounding like an alarmist, (it annoys me when people do that, ironically)…but I just think this is something you want to check out and deal with swiftly. Then, you can rest easy, without having to think about it anymore.

This J. person sounds like kind of a dumbass. I’m not going to even bother reading her blog, now that I know she’s making stupid comments like that, (I haven’t read it yet, but had been meaning to give it a try).Why is it that some people refuse to comprehend that EVERYONE has drama and difficulties in their lives at various points? Nobody has the market cornered on difficulties and stress and all that. I think some people are just basically self-involved and self-centered…they can usually only truly relate to their own, personal experiences, (like children).

Hope you’re feeling better, Cloey. I’ve had the throat thing, also, (to the point of partially losing my voice). It’s always hard for me to tell what’s allergy and asthma-related, and what’s a virus.

Take care.

20 08 2009
Witchypoo

should read, “some TYPE of imaging procedure

20 08 2009
Clo

Laura, I think you should go sooner rather than later as well. But, I’ve said many times, I’m paranoid, border lining on hypocondriact, so. While it could be something minor, it worries me that a lot of big stuff could be going on too. And a lot of that big stuff they can fix easily if only caught soon enough. Think of it this way: Maybe you have to take a day or two off to go to the doctor now. But they’re able to give you something quick to fix it, like a pill or something. To me that’s better than postponing it and then finding out, well, now because you’ve waited so long it’s going to require surgery to fix and you’ll be out of work for a week, ya know? I mean, like Witchy, I don’t want to be an alarmist and go OMG, but I do think in your case, a little alarm is OK.

I didn’t check in on the rest of her drama, I posted my two cents and left. I’ve deleted her link and I won’t go back to feed into the drama. Again, I just think it’s ridiculous that she writes a blog, publishes the link various places and then gets mad when different people weigh in with different opinions. It’s like, man up. Either take the comments to heart, or ignore them, but either way, don’t act like a four year old about it, stomping your feet and throwing a temper tantrum. Ya know?

Witchy I go back and forth between feeling better and not. It keeps feeling like the way you feel right before you get sick – gummy, scratchy throat, sometimes a stuffed or slightly runny nose, headache. And I’ll go to bed thinking “wow this thing is going to hit tomorrow” and I’ll wake up and be fine. I mean, I don’t even really get allergies, occasionally I do when the trees are like flowering or something, but it’s very mild. So I don’t think that’s it. I dunno what it is.

Oh, good thoughts out to my friend. She’s pregnant with, get this, her fifth child. Which is totally crazy to me. I mean she’s one of those people who are like “I’ll have as many as god blesses me with.” Which, is OK, but I just don’t think they really have the room/space for it. But, she is a fantastic Mom, and all her kids are beautiful. But, she’s had a lot of miscarriages in the past. She said her latest was 10 weeks, and she’s only 7 right now, so if you guys could send sticky dust her way, I’d appreciate it.

Also, do any of you mom’s have lunch time tips for Cayden? Breakfast we pretty much do either toast, cereal, eggs, or fruit, and Jeremy wants to go get these natural pop tarts (without all the sugar and added crap), and dinner he usually has whatever we’re having, but lunch I have a hard time figuring out what to give him. It feels like i’m doing the same old hot dog or grilled cheese over and over again. He can’t do anything with honey yet (supposed to wait till he’s a year, I think it was) Or anything with peanut butter (the doctor said we could try this at a year as well) So. Any ideas?

21 08 2009
lara21167

Grilled cheese was going to be my first suggestion lol. Maybe some soups or go with the “graduate” baby foods. That’ll give you more of a variety. My kids were picky eaters, so I went with what I could get them to eat.

Ok, ok, I’ll call the doc today. Rowdy sent me an email and said the same thing. She said the cyst could burst, and of course that would cause alot of problems. Guess I should have learned my lesson from the ulcer I had not to ignore pain.

Of course Cloey I’ll send good wishes to your friend and speaking of pregnancies. My niece who isn’t my niece that just had her 2nd baby is pregnant once again!! And it appears her second baby is altistic, so she’ll have her hands full esecially since her and her boyfriend (my hubby’s brother/nephew) broke up with her. It’s funny every time they break up she turns up pregnant. Yes they are his kids lol. He had DNA tests on the first 2. Although I told him it wasn’t necessary since they both look just like him 🙂

21 08 2009
lara21167

Ok, I made a doctor appointment for Sept 3rd. And you know I’ll get chastised for not following up sooner. He’ll give me that “look” he gives me when I don’t do what I’m supposed to.

21 08 2009
Witchypoo

Hi, Ladies. Laura…they couldn’t get get you in any sooner than September 3rd? That sounds crappy; did you stress how much it hurts? I’d think they could at least just go ahead and order the damn imaging procedure so as to get a good look at what’s going on. I mean, that’s like 2 weeks away? What? I don’t see why they can’t shuffle things around a little to accommodate you better than that. Sheez. Btw…I don’t like going to the doctor either, especially if there’s something or other I’ve been kind of putting off having checked out.

Cloey, hmmm…lunch ideas. Well, my boys all LOVED, (and still do), any typed of deal that involved pasta…it only takes a minute to boil it, and then I’d add butter or margerine, (now I use ‘Smart Balence’, which is a healthier alternative to butter/margerine…and I also throw in some olive oil for moisture), then you can thow in any kind of meat and/or cheese you want. My guys love buttery noodles with pamasean cheese mixed in, and you can thow in chicken, hamburger, ground turkey – whatever. I just always cut it up into spoon-sized portions, (still do for Heath), so they could get easy mouthfulls in. They still love those types of dishes. Or, if you want to make traditional mac and cheese, you can use the nasty “packet o’ sodium” they have in the box, (my kids insist that the packet is a basic requirement), but also add a bunch of your own grated cheese for more protein and dairy…dicing up little pieces of hotdog to also throw in the macaroni dish is a favorite of little ones, and I also put hamburger in sometimes, (I’m sure you’ve been given the lowdown on not slicing hotdogs in the shape of quarters since small children can choke on them, right? Just felt obligated to throw that in there, even though I’m sure you’re well-aware). Also, I found that sandwiches, (any kind), took on a whole new appeal when sliced into “fun-finger-sized” forms that the little guys could manipulate easily, (just slice the sandwiches in little strips after preparing). That’s the whole appeal of the ‘Lunchables’ popularity…the food isn’t any better, but the kids love it because it’s all in “kid-sized” portions…like little “sandwiches” from crackers and cheese/meat, etc. Believe it or not, my guys also like tuna-noodle casserole with the spiral noodles, (needs quite a bit of grated cheese, though)…also, homemade spaghetti is a favorite for lunch. Cayden may like a little plate with a couple of choices of deli meat, (like turkey breast and ham), cut in little-finger portions, along with little pieces of cheese…and little slices of apples, strips of bananas, carrott sticks…whatever fruit vegetable you want. The mini-men feel like they’re eating off a snack tray when food is presented like that…something about snack trays have a huge appeal to my spawn, for some reason. Heath also liked scrambled eggs in a little bowl that he could eat with his fingers, (even though I also gave him a spoon to play and experiment with just so he’d get used to it).

Wow, Lara…your poor niece, (I know she’s not technically your niece, but I’ll refer to her that way since it’s simpler). So, her second baby is autistic? How can they tell already when the baby is so young? I didn’t know it was evident that early. I can’t imagine having a couple of kids – including a new baby who’s got health issues – and being pregnant…with a guy I’m on/off with all the time. Does she cope pretty well? I hope the father helps out with the kids…that will make a huge difference. The poor girl sure has her work cut out for her. How old is she? It seems I remember you mentioning it once, and that she’s relatively young. I feel for her. What’s everyone up to today?

Goldie…I’m happy that you checked in with Lara to give her advice about the cyst; you’re generous enough to do that even when you’ve got struggles of your own going on…a telling trait of a giving, caring person, Sweetie.

Take care, Girls.

21 08 2009
Witchypoo

I’m kind of all over the place today, aren’t I? I just reread what I typed out…heh-heh.

21 08 2009
lara21167

Witchy, I looked up Autism in infants on the computer, because I know how paranoid scizoid my MIL is lol. Anyhoo, My MIL said that Liza did say something to the doctor so they were going to test him, but the whole reasoning for thinking he’s autisic is because his head is a little large and he sticks his tongue out all the time and rocks back and forth. Did I mention he was 7 months old?? So when I checked online, it said that it usually doesn’t become apparent until they are 2 to 3 years old. But the only indication from an infant is not responding to people and not smiling. I haven’t seen Trenton in a while but they say he smiles all the time. And just to let you know how my MIL is when Trenton’s brother was an infant, his soft spot was kind of swelled. My MIL kept insisting he had a brain tumor. So Lisa insisted the doctor check him and they sent him to Baltimore to check it out. Well my MIL was telling everyone that Brian had a brain tumor, turns out it was perfectly normal. I should know better than to listen to her **sigh**

And Witchy I could get an appointment for next week, but I just won’t have the co pay too much to pay out this week. And don’t feel too sorry for Lisa, she’s the one who refuses to use birth control and no Mason doesn’t help out at all but his Mamma does. And besides more kids means more welfare right??

22 08 2009
Witchypoo

Ah…gotcha on the appointment deal; gotta follow the finances, hugh? Just don’t wait if the pain increases, ok?

Your niece has a long, hard road ahead of her regardless of how much welfare or help she receives from her boyfriend’s family. Just the mere fact that the father isn’t involved puts things in a whole different light. I can’t figure out why anyone would want to keep getting pregnant with such little means, no real support from the sperm donor, (my term for fathers who don’t give a shit), and at such a young age on top of it all. We waited 5 years AFTER we got married, had bought a house, etc. before I went off the pill. Obviously, not everyone wants to wait like that, but it was definitely the best course of action for us. I knew I wasn’t ready to be a mother right away; I was barely ready to get married. I’m glad we did latch on the ole’ ball-n-chain when we did, (just screwing around…I take my marriage seriously, and appreciate the relationship we have), but I have to admit: I was REALLY nervous beforehand. Having kids right away? No possible way. Uh-ugh. Anyhoo…things have a way of working out for the best.

Take care, Girls.

24 08 2009
Clo

Sorry guys, whatever I’ve had that’s been lingering finally hit last night, and I feel like shit. My sister’s here and is supposed to be taking Cayden tomorrow, but we’ll see. A lot of times when she says she’s going to help out, it means she’ll help out how and when she feels like it. Which, I mean is still a help, it’s just that I’m not sleeping at night because I cough too much so I have to literally be exahusted to sleep and so tomorrows going to suck…

Laura- I was going to say, they usually do a routine austism check, but not for awhile, like… somewhere between 1-2 years old I think. I mean there are some things they say to watch out for, like developmental delays, but for the most part I think it’s super hard to tell in kids that young.

And as far as your cyst and pain, seriously, if it gets really bad, go to the hospital. I know, I know, hospital fees are expensive, but it’s going to be a lot more expensive should something be seriously wrong and you let it go and it becomes a HUGE issue. At least at the hospital they HAVE to treat you whether or not you can pay, and a lot of them have programs to help you pay.

24 08 2009
lara21167

Actually the pain kind of comes and goes, and at the worst just makes me stop what I’m doing and say “damn”. To me that’s not too bad.

On Trenton and Autism, I was at my MIL’s yesterday and was holding Trenton. He seems fine to me. He’s very alert to things around him. He responds when you talk to him. He smiles alot, and seems very content. The only thing I noticed with him is he looks kind of spacey. But his mother smoked pot when she was pregnant with him, so the spaceyness probably has to do with that. Like I said my MIL just looks for things to be wrong even with herself.

25 08 2009
lara21167

Cloey I am sooo hooked on your blog. You really get those Cliff Hangers going on lol.

26 08 2009
Clo

Awww thanks Laura. I actually have no idea where it’s all going to go when this drama ends. It’s kinda scary.

Also, do any of you guys have walgreens near you? I wasn’t sure if they were a national chain or not. Anyway, I have recently discovered internet coupons, and now they’re my new best friend. Anyway, if you upload pics to walgreen and choose to pick them up in stores, you can get 25 free prints if you order 25 prints (code buy25get25) You can also choose to have them shipped to you, but then it costs shipping and handling. I think this coupon expires Saturday. And, if you order by tomorrow, using the code FUNDAY, you get a free 8X10 photo collage. Laura, you could probably take the pictures of your daughter cheering and upload them into a cute collage. I don’t think any purchase is necessary (I bought some prints though, so I’m not sure.)

I know I sound like a saleswoman or something, but I love deals. We made a photo collage using Cayden’s pictures to frame and have people sign at his first birthday party.

26 08 2009
lara21167

I think Walgreens is national although I don’t think we have one in my town. Think I’ll check though, Frederick may have one.

26 08 2009
Clo

I think we have to give Louie away. Which, bums me out to no end, but, I’m not sure what else to do. He’s never loved being around Cayden, not like Tater, who like, would probably let Cayden beat her over the head with a hammer and still come back to lick his face, but Louie’s at least stayed away from him. Now that Cayden’s more mobile, I think Louie feels more threatened, and is now seeking Cayden out and snapping at him. I mean, sometimes Cayden has it coming, he’ll grab a handful of Lou’s hair before I can get to him, but sometimes… Like today, Cayden was banging on the ottoman, which, isn’t unusual, and it didn’t make really any noise (the ottoman is upholstered, so it was pretty muffled) and Louie just jumped up on it and starts snapping at him. And then the other day Cayden was just sitting on the floor and Louie walked by and snapped at him.

The upside, though, is I’m pretty sure our neighbor is going to take him. Which means, we’ll still see him often, and probably dog sit for them all the time and stuff. He’ll still get to see Tater and stuff. The other upside is that means we get a new dog. Because of the fostering, Tater does OK with animal switches, but she needs another dog or else she gets really lonely. I feel really bad though, like Louie’s going to see the other dog and think we got rid of him for something new, which isn’t the case. But, I’m kinda at a loss at what else to do.

27 08 2009
lara21167

Cloey I’m sorry that is tough. Do you think Louie would actually bite Cayden? If you do then yes you need to find him a new home. Some pets just don’t take well to babies. You can’t take any chances though. There was a story on our local news where a lady with a 3 day old baby was holding her baby and her pit bull actually grabbed the baby out of her arms, shook him around and threw him. Unfortunately the baby died. She had the pit bull put down and her other dog that was a german sheppard. Not sure I agree with having the second dog put down since he didn’t do anything but I understand.

Ok on to happier things. I officially started College yesterday. The way Kaplin works is you have to perticipate in “classroom” discussions which involves answering 2 discussion question (100 word answer) Then responding to 2 different classmates on the subject. And completing the reading and assignments for the week. Then once a week there is a web seminar to attend. They are not mandatory but I think should be very helpful. It’s just like attending class with the teacher leachuring. Anyhoo both of my classes’ seminars are Wed nights, one at 8:00 and one at 9:00 1 hour long. I wound up with the Humanities class but couldn’t take the science with it (for whatever reason) So instead I have Finance (which I’ve had before at FSU, shouldn’t be too bad then.

27 08 2009
lara21167

Boy my spelling was off lol.

28 08 2009
Clo

I’m not sure if he would or not, I just don’t really want to find out. I mean he’s never been aggressive towards anyone or anything before, but he’s also never been around kids either. I mean, not for an extended period of time. The neighborhood kids every once in awhile, and they’re semi-afraid of him, so they barely pet him. (I don’t know why they’re afraid, he’s a big white ball of fur, but the neighborhood kids are kind of idiots, and their parents NEVER watch them.)

Laura, congrats on school! Do you like it thus far? I’m so excited for you, and a tad jealous as well.

Cayden’s 11 months old today, and driving me nuts. He started acting weird last night, we were running errands and still had more to do, but he got tired, so we dropped him off at home to take a nap with my sister while we finished. So we come home and he’s STILL napping, and it’s like 8, and we try to have him down for bed between 8:30-9. I figure, we’ll get him up, give him dinner, and put him back to bed. Well, we get him up, and he’s super drowsy (which isn’t unusual when we personally wake him) He wants nothing to do with dinner, so we put him back down. Has no problem and actually sleeps through the night with only one waking (which he has been sleeping through the night so that’s not a shocker, but if he doesn’t eat before bed, he tends to be up a bajillion times) He woke a little earlier than normal (7 instead of 8:30) but I figured he was hungry. I changed him, fed him, we playe dfor a minute, he was tired went back down. He got up again around 9. Got him up, played for like an hour, he was ready to go back down. Slept until one! Now he’s eaten and looks like he might want to go back to sleep. And I know it’s probably just a spurt, but he’s also in a bad mood, he’s like screaming for no reason and getting frustrated at nothing.

On top of that, we got one of our cat’s spayed yesterday. She’s home now, and is like, hunting down one of the other cats. I was worried the other animals might mess with her. Last night she and this cat got into it for a second, but I didn’t see the fault so I thought the other cat had gotten too close, and I mean she just had major surgery so I’d be a little sensitive too. But as I’m sitting hear I keep hearing this low moan, and I’m like, what the hell is that. And Kahlua, the cat that had surgery, is literally stalking Po around the room. And not in a playful way. They’ve played before, they like each other, but Po has NEVER growled at her like she is now. And at first, again, I assumed it was Po’s fault, that she got too close. But Po ran across the room and Kahlua followed, backing PO into a corner, and then Po ran again, and she did the same thing.

Top it off with the fact that I didn’t sleep last night, so I got about an hour while Cayden napped. I’m tired, and really not in the mood to listen to Cayden scream or the cats fight.
I hope y’all are having a good one though 🙂

29 08 2009
lara21167

Between pets and kids they’ll drive you nuts lol. Cayden is probably just going through a thing. I’d just keep an eye on him and watch his temparture. If something is wrong, ear infection or something, fever is usually the best way to tell. The cats, Idk. I had a cat that was shot. She had a hole in her neck and one out the side. The vet cleaned the area where the bullet went but left the wounds open so they would drain. When I brought her home of course she smelled like the vet and my other cat sniffed her, hissed and ran away. And she was the more gentle one of the 2. I can see that, but not the aggressive behavior of the cat who had the surgery. Is she on pain meds? Sometimes they make people act funny, so maybe the cat is having a reaction.

I am really enjoying school so far. I’m now thinking of going on for a Masters, but I don’t want to get ahead of myself.

29 08 2009
Witchypoo

Just checking in quickly, Ladies. Cloey, I’m sorry to hear about your problems with Louie. I’ve found that male dogs can be a bit more aggressive with toddlers, for some reason. Our male beagle hasn’t bitten the little guy, but he’s growled a couple of times. Little man was getting in his face, though, and really testing his patience. Our male is really smart, and he hasn’t crossed any lines, but we made sure he was very aware of his limits. He doesn’t really do that anymore…mini-spawn is getting better about treating him respectfully, and not playing so rough when the beagle wants to rest. Our girl would let you do anything to her and not even growl – she’s incredibly gentle and patient. It’s great that you’ll be able to see Louie regularly, though, and keep tabs on him. You couldn’t really ask for a better situation than a nice neigbor who you like taking him in, right?

Sweetlara…I’m very happy and proud of you for initiating and following through on progress toward your goals. It sounds like you have things set up really nicely with the web classes and course work online. It’s nice to see you so enthusiastic about it. Keep us informed as to how it’s going, Sweetie.

Things have been really busy…lots of activity and a few changes. I’m really tired, though…I can’t seem to keep a coherent train of thought right now. The oldest spawn and I went to see Rob Zombie’s ‘Halloween II’ tonight; we didn’t get back until about 10:30 or so. It was good; the two of us saw his version of ‘Halloween I’ two summers ago, also, and I have all the original ‘Halloween’ installments, along with the 2007 version. I think I mentioned before that I love horror movies – especially the Halloween ones, or period ones. There’s some really cool ones made in the 1960’s that were filmed in England…I love all the old castle/mansions…and just the dated atmosphere. I know it’s pretty geeky, but I have fun. Anyhoo…nightie-night, Girls, and take care.

29 08 2009
Witchypoo

I had meant to tell you that I hope Cayden is feeling better tomorrow, Cloey. It’s hard to figure out what’s wrong with the little guys when they can’t even tell you what hurts, hugh? Give him a big kiss on his baby cheek from Witchy.

29 08 2009
Clo

Can I just say I really really don’t like J anymore? See what I mean by bringing drama on herself?

And Laura, if you don’t want the blog to be ruined, stop reading now (if you already read her cosmo comment, then you can read this but if you skipped it, you may wanna skip this)

First of, her whole disclaimer thing? OK, I get that, but then after posting as many disclaimers as she did, to go back and post another “OMG JUMA DON’T READ MY COMMENT!” like, c’mon. The title and the start of your comment has a warning on it, if she’s going to read it anyway after that? It doesn’t matter how many OMG’s she posts, it’s going to be read.

Secondly, I know some people are OK with open relationships. It’s not my thing, I think it’s stupid, but it doesn’t affect my relationship, so whatever. But I would think that if your hubby had a fantasy of a 3-some, you would do it once and it would be over. How can you repeatedly have sex with someone, who is your friend, and think you’re not going to develope feelings for them? I mean isn’t a relationship basically a friendship with sex? I mean, I get their are a few differences between a relationship and friendship, but this is why I never liked friends with benefits. Someone ALWAYS fell for the other person. You like them obviously, enough to be friends with them, you add in sex, and SOMETHING is going to happen.

I mean IF I was EVER to do something like that with my husband (which, I wouldn’t, it’s not my thing, again.) but I would pick a stranger. That way they wouldn’t have access to my life, I wouldn’t have to worry about bumping into them or hanging out when things were over, and if things got out of control I could cut them out without losing anything.

J just strikes me as being very immature. There was the comment she made to Rowdy (I can’t remember exactly what it was, I think Rowdy commented on her long distance engagement being so soon, and J got all defensive and said she must have never been in a long distance relationship. This was when Rowdy was in Florida and her bf was in Cali, btw.) So there’s the whole “well if you disagree with me, you must have never been in it” mentality she has, seeing as how she said because Witchy and I didn’t agree, we must have never been married. It’s like, yeah there are some couples who do have an open relationship. AND plenty of other couples who don’t and who would never even consider it. Then there’s the fact that it seems to me whenever anyone says anything negative to her, she just goes off or gets VERY defensive, and it’s like, why can’t you have an open mind and accept other’s opinions. Then there’s the whole “drama finds me” deal, and I’m kinda like, you look for it, dude. I’m just not a J fan.

29 08 2009
Witchypoo

Yeah, Cloey…I just answered her whiny musings on the ‘Bedroom Blog’. The ironic thing about my irritation with her is that I don’t really have overly-strong views on others’ sex lives; my husband and I would probably sooner do a jig in a mosh pit than indulge in anything like that…but I couldn’t really care less about what some other, (poor suckers), Tom, Dick, Harry, Jane…whatever, do with their private lives. What annoys the hell out of me is people who feel the need to draw attention to themselves in the manner she so obviously does. Then, adding insult to injury, she can’t even handle the fact that there’s people who won’t agree with her viewpoint…and might actually have the nerve to say so. Screw it…I don’t care if she got her wittle feewings hurt…the idiot needs to grow up.

Nice, hugh? Giggle-giggle. Take care, Girls.

30 08 2009
lara21167

Ok, guess I got to check Bedroom Blog 🙂

30 08 2009
lara21167

omg, that is hilarious!! I got to keep reading that stupid blog just because of “this recent drama”. I’m sorry I find that kind of kinky “open marriage” weirdo stuff funny. And I know alot of young people do indulge in 3 somes. My youngest brother in law in forms me of that lol. But I’m am totally with Witchy, it’s not for me and not for a good, stable marriage. It’s really funny that the husand wanted to watch his wife get it on with someone else while he watched. It’s usually the guy wanting to watch his girl with another girl, and of course join in. Wonder if he has any homosexual tendencies and that’s his way of letting that out without being with the guy. I’m not going to post this on Bedroom blog. I don’t want to hear all the crap she’ll put out.

30 08 2009
Clo

I mean, looking around the whole 3-some stuff (and more kinky sex stuff) is way more common, but… Then you look at divorce rates. I mean, sure it’s nice when people have a more lax and open mind, but I also wonder if that’s got a hand in divorce rates. People want to act on whims and do what they want too because it makes them happy or feel good, but, then they don’t want to deal with the consequences. I mean, if her husband suddenly got jealous because of the 3-some and that’s why he wanted to divorce her (which may not be the case, it may be the whole, I love another guy deal) but then he’s an ass, because what the hell did he think was going to happen? And if she fell in love with her friend, and thought her husband was going to let her have a boyfriend on the side, what the fuck was she thinking?

I mean, the whole lot kind of embarasses me. If this is how normal 23 year olds act, I’m kind of glad I’m not like that.

30 08 2009
Witchypoo

Wow, Cloey…you weren’t kidding when you said she’s bitchy about differing views/opinions regarding her lifestyle adventures. I don’t know what the horse’s ass expects…it’s not like she’s admitting to a light flirtation, or kinky sex with her husband, or whatever. She’s talking about a loaded subject surrounding a subject the majority of people take pretty seriously: marriage. I mean, going into detail about her giggly-girl hump-capades with her bestest buddy in the whole wide world while the old ball-n-chain jacks off in the corner watching? Yup…definitely going to elicit some strong opinions. I’d like to reiterate here with you ladies that I’m not a judgemental person by nature, and I don’t think anyone who knows me could ever describe me as a prude about anything sexual. Yup…I LOVE everything about sex, (I’ll stop there…getting pretty close to the “EW, GROSS!” factor). There’s just something repulsive to me about someone who feels the need to advertise her really private activities…kind of like she’s a porn-queen wanna-be or something. Also, as I said, my guy and I wouldn’t even entertain the idea of bringing someone else into our sexual relationship; there’s so many reasons why not, I wouldn’t even know where to begin. But, the main reason we wouldn’t ever go there is the obvious one: chances are good that things are going to get pretty screwed up afterward. I mean, while hubby and wifey may have THOUGHT everything would just remain all fun and games, (idiots), they soon found out that LOTS of complications arose. Wow! What a revelation, since a little thing like EMOTIONS aren’t complicated or anything, right? I can’t believe how incredibly self-destructive and naive’ some people are…what, they don’t know that there’s consequences to that kind of heavy shit in a marriage? My uncle and his 2nd wife, (she’s since passed on), indulged in some of that with a neighbor and good friend who was younger than both of them. It nearly destroyed their marriage, and I don’t think they ever fully recovered from it, (especially my uncle). Anyhoo….I just don’t understand how anyone who claims to cherish his/her mate and marriage can get into all that without understanding that it could very well change everything…for the worse. That J. person also just seemed to take such pleasure in divulging all that tacky crap to everybody…then claimed to be so hurt and all that about what happened with her friend. Whatever…I just don’t know what she expected to happen. I also wonder how her husband could possibly want to see the woman he loves get it on with someone else. It baffles me, to be honest.

Talk later, Girls…and take care.

30 08 2009
Witchypoo

I guess your comment crossed with mine, Cloey. I just read your’s after getting back from picking Spawn #1 up from where he was hanging out with his friends. You know…I think a HUGE part of that type of experimental behavior within marriage can be attributed to two factors: boredom, and substances. Now, the majority of our friends drink to some extent, and we sure did our fair share of partying in the past, so I don’t want you ladies to think I’m anti-anything. I think if you enjoy whatever responsibly, and there’s no negative consequences from your activities…then party on. However, I’ve found that lots of people who are kicking back tipping a few, (or a lot), with maybe some other substances thrown in…well, sometimes basic standards of behavior get “shifted”, or discarded altogether. Something that would normally be considered off-limits might suddenly seem adventurous and worthy of exploration. In plain talk: some people who are drunk and/or high find their inhibitions so lowered that they do plenty of things they wouldn’t normally consider. For instance, that J. person mentioned that her close friend drank a lot, influencing his behavior. I’d be willing to bet he wasn’t the only one getting hammered and/or high from one substance or another. Put substances and a little boredom in a marriage together and sometimes you come up with a recipe for group activities. I’d lay bets that’s what happened with skank-queen and her voyeur hubby.

The thing is: you have to take into account that even if you’re not hurting the body with activities like this in an intimate relationship…you’re most surely soiling the soul, and damaging your connection. It’s almost unavoidable…which is why the majority of married people who DO choose to keep indulging in that type of behavior eventually either break up…or come close to breaking up. I mean, I’m not saying there’s no coming back from that…just that the writing is on the wall about probable pitfalls. Anyhoo, she’s a big whiner about “how hurt” she got and all that horseshit. Poor thing…guess she leaned a lesson, hugh? I wonder when the broad will learn to use some discretion and taste when deciding how much is too much to tell all of the unsuspecting readers of a major commercial blog site.

30 08 2009
Witchypoo

Forgot: Take care, Girls.

30 08 2009
Witchypoo

Cloey…how’s Cayden feeling today?

30 08 2009
Witchypoo

Yup…here I am again. It’s 10:15, hubby is playing on his computers, Baby-Spawn is watching ‘Stuart Little’ for the 1,000th time and wearing his new shoes we got him today, (he had his shower already – then got redressed, with clean underwear, so that he could keep walking around in his new shoes). They’re some kind of retro-Jordans that the hubby picked out while he and I were at the mall today. The baby has a real thing for shoes, (just like his brothers and Dad)…and he’s also very fashion-conscious like the older spawn. It’s pretty cute; he HAD to have little Levis just like the older guys, so Spawn #1 helped me find just the right ones for him in different colors a few days ago. Baby was SO happy to get the same kind of jeans as the older 2; Biggest spawn also found a little hoodie just like one of the ones he got that the baby practically has to have ripped from his body at night for bed, (it’s too warm for him to fall asleep in). As you’ve probably gathered, we’ve been busy getting the boys ready for going back to school next week. I was happy that our 15 year-old decided recently that Levis are really cool…since they’re so easy to find in all kinds of styles and colors. I suggested Levis LAST August for the coming school year and was greeted with hoots of derisive laughter and sarcastic “wit” by the Spawn #1, (#’s 2 and 3 take their fashion cues from their wardrobe guru, #1). Well, apparently, THIS year Levis are IT…so NOW I have good taste, according to Mr. GQ. They start on Wednesday, (the older 2…preschool doesn’t start until mid-September). Anyhoo…I’m just sitting here gazing at my new pumpkin candles; while we were at the mall, we stopped by a Yankee candle shop…it’s huge and just opened a week ago. They have so many adorable autumn and Halloween-themed candles and decorative items. Have I ever mentioned that I collect a lot of autumn-type candles…from gold-dipped real maple-leaf candles to all sorts of pumpkin votives/candles/candle holders? I do. Anyway…these are frosted rusty-orange-red holders with etchings of pumpkins and vines in the glass. When the flame burns inside, it’s really beautiful. So, I typically turn off all the lights and light candles all over whatever room we’re all hanging out in. The older boys are kicking back, also, (stuffing their faces with snacks and playing on their respective computers, also). Ummm…now that I’m thinking about snacks, there’s a couple of containers of ice cream calling my name in the freezer.

Talk later, (I don’t know why I’m rambling about all these things…just felt like chatting about little things).

Take care, Ladies.

30 08 2009
Witchypoo

P.S…tell me about some of what you guys have been up to when you get the chance. I have more about Chance and how we switched baseball teams, Beau and football, baby and his martial arts, storytime, etc…but it’ll take too long, and I’ve already written a few volumes for today. I like reading about day-to-day little details…there’s something comforting about it.

30 08 2009
Clo

Cayden seems much better, thanks for asking, I dunno what it was yesterday. But he seemed OK today, so.

As for us, we’re just gearing up for his first birthday party. Buying stuff, arranging other stuff. I spent – no joke – like 3 hours on the phone with Jeremy’s Mom because she asked what we wanted her to buy for him, and she just kept going on and on and on and on.

Other than that, we’re good. Cayden’s trying to walk. Or rather, stand on his own. He can, for a little bit, but he usually gets so excited and starts clapping for himself (uber cute) that it knocks him off balance. He’s also saying hi pretty consistantly, and that’s SUPER cute. It was funny because the other day my sister was leaving, and kept saying bye to him, and every time she did he’d say “hi” and she’d say “No, silly, not hi, bye!” and he got all excited and kept saying Hi louder and louder.

Right now I’m pretty pissed though, and I’m about to go off on her stupid boyfriend (my own neighbor, so I guess I have a neighbor boy, kinda like K) He and I got along in the very beginning, but ever since he and my sister started dating, and I’ve gotten to know him better, I can’t stand him. It’s the little things, like he’s admitted that he does things to get under my skin, and just his views. He works at this low paying job, and he could very easily get a better job, but he won’t because he doesn’t like “the pressures of responsibility” which are his words, NOT mine, and so he can’t make ends meet and his parents pay for a lot of his stuff (he’s a couple months younger than Jeremy, so 32 years old!) Then I just don’t like the way he acts in his and my sister’s relationship. Like he’s not abusive, or cheating, or anything like that, but I just think he wants her to hold his hand and be his mom. I could list the reasons why I don’t like him, but that would take awhile. I’m pissed now because my sister put a status up on facebook about how we gave away Louie. So then later on, this girl asks on a later date what happened to Louie, and Eric (my sisters boyfriend) wrote: Save Louie. And I’m kinda like WTF? So I wrote Louie was saved, and he needed to back off. Which, I think should have been enough warning to you know, shut the fuck up. So then he writes back “Obviously Louie was past his expiration date, otherwise they wouldn’t have discarded him.”

And I’m just like, really? You wanna go there? So I wrote back “Uh, excuse me? Discared? That’s the word you wanna use? Louie was snapping at my son, as in trying to bite him, so you’re saying I should have let him bite him, and then not only have my son hurt, but have to put Louie down because he bit someone, rather than give him to a neighbor who Tater and I can both visit, and also has a pekingese for Louie to play with and obviously knows the breed?”

I mean my sister is maintaining it was a joke, but I don’t see how anyone can see how that would be funny at ALL, especially after I told them to back off the subject. I loved Louie, I didn’t want to give him away, and I busted my ass when I was pregnant to train the dogs to be used to the baby. I did all the little tips, set up the baby stuff one at a time so not to overwhelm them, but set it up early so they could get used to it, I played noises of babies crying, sent home a blanket with the babies scent on it. When I first came home from the hospital, not only sick, recovering from surgery, and with a newborn, and the dogs had fleas, I didn’t get rid of them then. When I was exhausted from dealing with a newborn all the time and going through additional surgeries, I could have gotten rid of the dogs. But I didn’t. And honestly, if I wanted to get rid of one of the dogs because they were too much, or because I wanted to get another dog, I would probably have chosen Tater, she’s hyper, a lot more annoying, a lot more work, and if I wanted to trade older for younger, she’s the older of the two. Louie is snapping at Cayden, and I could try to train him, but it’s like, I don’t want to take the risk that it’s not going to work and have Cayden get bit. And like my sister’s saying “well, it’s my fault, I went over there and jokingly acted all dramatic and he’s just following my lead” well, I’m sorry he’s being an ass in order to kiss YOUR ass, but it’s still a dickhead move.

30 08 2009
Witchypoo

Uh-hugh, Cloey…I don’t think it’s ever a smart idea to “joke” about subjects that mean a lot to people – such as family pets. It was pretty insensitive of him. What does your sister see in a guy who’s in his 30’s and still relying on his parents to help support his lifestyle? Kind of a red-flag regarding future promise of security with someone like that. Or, maybe your sister isn’t thinking long-term with this guy…just living in-the-moment, instead.

31 08 2009
Clo

I dunno, he went on further some condescending physco-babble, sarcastic bullshit, about how if I needed to tell people who cared about me (and yes, we do care about you) how I feel, instead of indirectly lashing out at people. And that by talking trash, I was downgrading myself or something, and how I shouldn’t have taken it on a forum like facebook to discuss, but discussed it face to face.

I mean that pissed me off even more because he said my bad twice (this was after my sister had commented that she hated it when people said my bad instead of sorry because it was like it wasn’t a real apology. And I KNOW he saw that comment because he posted his directly under, and even said j/k after the first “my bad” but went on to repeat it in closing. Secondly, I didn’t indirectly talk about anyone, I was directly talking to him, and it was clear that I was. And I don’t see how I was talking trash, it’s not like I said what I felt, which was wow- you’re a dickhead. I said he didn’t have his facts straight (he didn’t) I explained the real story, and I said he didn’t need to make stupid comments when he didn’t know the whole story. How is that talking trash? Thirdly, I didn’t BRING the discussion onto the facebook forum, HE did. Had he come said HIS comments to me, I would have said my comments to him. And furthermore, I had asked him to back off, and he continued to push my buttons. What the fuck did he think was going to happen?

My sister said that she joked about it with him (and I know her sense of humor, so I know what she means) and he was just trying to go along with her or whatever. But my whole view is, it’s STILL mean, and when I was talking to my friend Brook about it, I likened it to calling her boyfriend the N word in order to get on Jeremy’s Mom’s good side. I don’t care WHY he was doing it, he still did it, it still hurt, and he should have manned up and apologized.

31 08 2009
lara21167

Cloey, yea he sounds like a real dickhead. i know it was a hard decision for you to make and it is very insensitive even for your sister to joke about. Oh and I’m glad Cayden seems to be doing better. Must have just been tired.

Witchy, are the different colorful tennis shoes and jeans popular where you are too. Kristy says all the boys in school are wearing green and purple jeans. And plaid, plaid pants are apparently back. And the shoes are multicolored and very brightly colored.

One more thing about 3 somes and more somes (and Witchy, I don’t think you are a prud at all. You take marriage very seriously and that’s great) and like I said I think those kinds of things are funny because it’s just so weird and I don’t understand it I guess. Anyhoo, I do understand people have weird fantasies, but sometimes fantasies need to stay that way. If one partner wants to share these bizarre fantasies with the other fine, they may want to role play or something. But acting on them, as you both have said there are consequences. And stating this on a public blog like on Cosmo. Idk, maybe she was hoping we’d all say oh it’s ok you poor thing we’ve all done it. But even if more and more young people are, it still in the minority, thank God.

31 08 2009
Witchypoo

Yeah Sweetlara…(I don’t know why I suddenly feel funny about using real names on here again; probably since I know the url has been put on ‘Bedroom Blog’ recently and anyone can read what we write here. Though, it’s not like anyone could likely identify any of us by a couple of first names, or those of our family members…since we’re spread out all over the country. I don’t know…I guess I’m just a little neurotic about privacy). Anyhoo – now that I’ve gotten completely off the track of whatever…oh, yeah, clothes. Well, according to Spawn #1, different colors of Levis are really popular, though he’ll only wear different shades of blue, black, brown, and we did get him a pair of maroon-colored jeans, also. I guess some guys are wearing purple and whatever, also, but my guy won’t. Shoes…he’s a collector, with so many pairs of air Jordans…some retro, some purely athletic, all color-coordinated to match different jeans, shorts, and shirts. He actually keeps them in their original boxes of all things, with matching baseball hats on top of each box. I know it sounds like he’s a girly-boy…but he’s all-guy, who happens to love his shoes. I’m not sure about the plaid; it very well could be a big thing here, also – but my guys would hoot with laughter if they saw one of their friends in plaid pants. Colorful shoes are pretty popular, though. Also, Lara…what you said about the 3-somes and all that: while I don’t see anything inherently horrible about what J. did, I tend to take a practical view of emotional situations. In other words, I ask myself what would be the healthiest, most sensible path to keep our marriage happy, and sex with other people just doesn’t enter my mental picture. Even if I ever wanted to try something like that, (huge hypothetical, because I think the idea is pretty gross), my guy would…I don’t even know how to explain how absolutely pissed off and disgusted he’d be. I know that if he really thought I wanted to do something like that, he’d eventually lose respect for me, and his interest/ardor would wane, if not fizzle out altogether. Same for me if the situation were reversed. We wouldn’t feel like the other was the person we originally thought he/she was…if that makes any sense at all. I don’t know. Whatever people want to do…I just don’t believe it works for most marriages indefinitely. Something about the exhibitionistic aspect of her comments repulses me. I don’t know how to explain it any better.

Cloey…I don’t like it when someone who’s only casually connected to me tries to pscho-analyze me…or if he/she gets too personal, too fast. I resent the intrusion, I guess. The way you described his comments to your reaction, it did seem very condescending. Is he nervy, or just not too bright? I’m glad Cayden is feeling himself. It really is adorable to watch the little guys learn new skills, when they get soooo excited about their accomplishments that squealing and clapping with delight are frequent reactions. I loved watching my guys bounce up and down on their chubby little legs when they got excited about something. I’ll always have those images in my mind/heart. My guy put together another collage today of pictures of our family as a screen-saver on one of the computers; it changes and morphs into all these different scenes, and then the pictures change to black and white, and back again. It’s really fun to watch.

Take care, Ladies.

31 08 2009
Clo

He’s back to feeling like crap, lol. Slight fever again, grumpy. But yesterday, we saw the reason why (and I kinda knew this was going to happen.) His bottom two teeth, which he’s had for a little bit, popped up around the same time, and I kept waiting for more to come in, and they never did. And I told Jeremy that they were all just going to come in at once. Annnnnd they did, lol. Well, not yet, but he’s got a top tooth that just is partially busted through, the one next to it is starting to come through and he’s got a couple of white spots on each side of his two bottom teeth, so I’m expecting those to pop up, lol. So, poor guy, isn’t feeling well.

As far as the different colored jean, shoes, and plaid, that’s been in here for a little bit. Plaid shorts, really, I dunno if I’ve seen plaid pants, but who knows? I took my god daughter shopping and she thought it was really cool to get a purple pair of jeans, but she’s also a little more… Punk/emo? I guess I would say. But the whole bright, multi-colored thing has been in here at least for the summer, if not last school year. It’s funny to me to watch like the other decades come back in style, if that makes any sense. I mean when I was in school, the whole flared jeans were coming back, and now it seems to me that the 80’s are in. It’s weird too, since I kinda grew up in the 80’s to see the style from my childhood and being able to think, man that wasn’t that long ago. Oh, but it was.

As for my sister’s boyfriend, I just think he’s a dick who likes to tell other people what he thinks and how they make him feel, but he doesn’t want to hear it back.

31 08 2009
Clo

Also, dunno if it’s a national chain or not (i’m assuming it is) but here’s a link to get a buy one, get one free entree from TGIFridays http://www.tgifridays.com/fb-bogo/

31 08 2009
Witchypoo

I had to giggle when you put up the Friday’s link, Cloey. Coincidentally, a few days ago, I was buying the boys movie tickets at a big theater in a local shopping mall. While at the window paying, this strange-looking little man with a funny voice and odd manner was buying his at the next window. He got flustered upon realizing that he was short exactly one quarter to pay for his movie ticket, and he turns in my direction to ask if anyone has a quarter. So, I hand him over the quarter, and he looked at me as if I was a creature from another planet, as he took the quarter and handed it to the cashier at the window. Well, I could practically feel Spawn #1’s pissed-off stare boring into the back of my head; I know him well enough to predict that he thought the guy was rude and weird. So, as we’re walking into the theater, he says to me…”Nice that the douche didn’t even bother to say “Thanks”, hugh? I felt like popping him one.” (That’s just his way of saying that someone annoyed him in the extreme; he wouldn’t actually DO it, of course). So, I brushed it off and told him the guy just didn’t realize he’d come off as weird and strange…it’s just his personality, obviously, (lack of conventional social skills). Just after that, he comes scurrying up to me, hands me these TGIF coupons for free entrees, and effusively thanks me like I did something really great. It was so funny after he just stared before and didn’t say anything to me. Then, Spawn #1 turns to me kind of sheepishly with surprise on his face and says, “Wow. Guess the guy was pretty happy about the quarter, hugh?” Teenagers are always taken aback when they actually learn something new, or see something unexpected. I mean, I try to tell my guys that people aren’t always what they appear; you just can’t always tell by first impressions. It was funny, and your TGIF coupons tip reminded me of it.

31 08 2009
Clo

Oooh, before I forget. Apparently, for all you girls out there that like Victoria’s secret, and have a facebook, if you friend them on facebook, you can get a coupon for 2 free pairs of undies, as long as you purchase something (I don’t think there’s a minimum requirement). Downside is, you have to act kinda fast, it’s only usable for September 1st, in stores ONLY. But, worth it. Here’s the link to the blog it’s in: http://freebies4mom.blogspot.com/2009/08/2-free-vs-undies-for-facebook-fans.html

And Witchy, I LOVE how your sons are with you, I think it’s awesome. They’re obviously open and trust you to say how they feel, and they’re protective too. I hope I can raise Cayden like that.

1 09 2009
Witchypoo

Well thank you, Mi-Lady, (about the boys, I mean). Sometimes, it’s pretty hard to take an objective once-over on how they’re coming along…and what my strengths and weaknesses are as a parent, and hubby’s, also. Btw…I have a pretty strong hunch that you’ll do just fine in the crazy balencing act that is known as MOTHER. Heehee. I’ll bet you strike a neat little balence of being a leader/example for the little spawn, as well as a loving maternal figure…and a trusted friend. (Notice I say “friend” last…and not because I think it’s the least important. It’s just that usually, moms in particular need to always make sure the young roosters keep in mind exactly WHO’S ultimately in charge. The little guys tend to try and push the envelope on that issue sometimes). Based on what I know about you, and my impressions of you, Cloey…you are a strong, capable lady for little Cayden to follow behind. I think your fine, highly original and independent Aquarian mind will be everything he needs in order to teach his to stay open, and to follow his own convictions. I think if you can develop those 2 tendencies in him, (he’ll follow by example)…then most of your parenting duties will be accomplished. I just sense that you won’t have a problem with this at all.

Take care.

P.S…thank you for the tip on Victoria’s Secret. I don’t think I’ll be able to make it to a store by tomorrow, though. Spawn #1 does want to exchange a pack of black shirts that are way too big…maybe we’ll take them in sooner than originally planned, in which case I’ll be able to hit the panty store in time, after all. Good heads-up, Cloey.

1 09 2009
Clo

Awww, thanks Witchy, that was really sweet. I agree with you on the friend part. I do think you can be friends with your child, but it comes last. It’s something I learned at camp, and passed on to the counselors. It’s better to be stricter in the beginning and then ease up, than to try to be your kids friends and crack down later. It just makes a mess of things. If the kids know above all that they have to respect you, they’re more willing to listen, so then you can do friendlier things, if that makes sense. Like I sometimes allowed my kids to do things we weren’t really supposed to do because they could get out of hand easily, but because I knoew they’d listen, I could. If that makes any sense. I mean, respect too, is a two way street, and you can’t get if you don’t give, you know? I dunno. It’s hard to explain what I mean, but I think too many people think “oh, if I’m my kid’s friend, they’ll like me, and therefore they’ll listen to me” which, isn’t true.

Also, another free thing, you can get one free card from http://www.thecardstore.com if you pick one from their hope collection and use the code sendhope. I mean, it’s just one card, which isn’t a big deal, however, Grandparents day is coming up (which I think is dumb, I celebrated grandparents on Mother’s day, so why do I need to do it again?) but my Mother in law (of course) is making it into a BIG DEAL, so I made her a card and am sending it to them, lol.

1 09 2009
Clo

whoops, it’s not THE card store, it’s just http://www.cardstore.com, my bad.

1 09 2009
lara21167

Ok, I just wrote a long post and my computer wigged out, it’s been doing that lately, my work one. It is 4 – 5 years old, time for a new one lol.

Anyhoo, witchy you do know that guy thought you were hot right?? I know that stupid glazed over stare too well lol. They seem to get rendered speachless.

And Cloey yes the 80’s are coming back yay!! I love the 80’s!! Kristy won’t have anything to do with the plaid pants or the “skinny jeans” all the girls are wearing.

I was trying to straighten Kristy’s hair this morning before school. For some reason it’s hard to straighten. She’s just got a little wave to it. I think it’s the way it’s cut. She should wear it natural and go with the mussy look, it’s about shoulder length right now and that would look really cute. She always wears it up, for some reason.

Oh and Ginger got out on Saturday, she won’t run off she just likes to run around and play. Well the hispanic family that lives below us were out and Ginger jumped on the little boy, who is probably around 4 years old and scratched his belly. He didn’t cry so I don’t think it was bad. I was just afraid they’d make a big deal of it. The grandmother doesn’t speak English well. I told her I was sorry, she didn’t seem mad but since I can’t really talk to her I didn’t know.

1 09 2009
lara21167

Oh and thanks Cloey for the free things tips.

1 09 2009
Clo

Laura, that sounds like our neighbors, only they make a big deal out of everything. It’s a big family living in the tiny apartment (Mom, Dad, two kids, possibly three kids (Jeremy thought she looked pregnant again and claimed he saw her carrying a newborn. I have not seen or heard this child, which, doesn’t shock me that I haven’t seen it, because I RARELY have seen their other kids. But I can usually hear them, so…) and Grandma, plus his sister comes over and drops off her 3 kids ALL the time. It’s a 2 bedroom place. Where are they putting all these people???) Anyway, so the guy knocks on our door one night and was like “You need to pick up your dog poop, I just stepped in a HUGE pile.”

Well, One: I dunno why he was telling us. And he did only tell us, because we later asked the other neighbors (We live in a row of townhouses, out of the four townhomes, three of them own dogs, we own two, the other neighbors owned two (they just put one down like, last month) and one owns one.) The other neighbors leave their dog poop in the yard and the pooper scoop it once a week. So it could have very easily been their dog. Two: I’ve seen TONS of people walk their dog through our yard. It’s like ours is grand central station for poop. Three: If it was a GIANT pile of poop like he said it was, it couldn’t have been our dogs. Our dogs are littler, they poop little. and Four: Probably about 90 percent of the time we take our dogs our back. That way we can let Tater off leash, and the neighborhood kids won’t distract them from their business. We also pick up our poop MOST of the time (there have been occasions where I forgot a bag, and when I went in and came back out to with a bag, I lost track of the poop.) So. They freak out over the littlest things. But, I mean, I’m sure if she didn’t act like it was a big deal, it wasn’t.

1 09 2009
lara21167

If they were going to make a big deal out of it, I think they would have by now. My hubby got into with the young man that lives there once about trash under the steps that they had. Then when an upstairs neighbor spilled some sticky stuff on the steps, my diligent hubby threw a bucket of soapy water on them and proceeded to clean them with an old broom. They are open steps and the water went down to the neighbors. The poor hispanic woman downstairs must have thought I don’t know what but she came upstairs yelling at my hubby and threatening to call police. And my hubby tried to explain he was cleaning the stairs but she couldn’t understand. Language barriers are fun.

2 09 2009
Witchypoo

Yeah, kind of a pain when you can’t communicate with someone – especially when he/she is hysterical and threatening to call the police. Nice. Sweetlara…about the funny little guy: yeah, I recognized the dumb look in the eyes, but usually, men/guys will accompany that with at least a smile, or some sort of language/signal that they’re aware I’m a member of the human race, rather than some crazy new life form from outer space. It was just the spacy way he stared, without saying anything that was strange. But, pretty much everything rolls easily off my shoulders, and I didn’t give it a lot of thought until Spawn #1 expressed his displeasure. I tend to cut geeky, awkward people a lot of slack; it must be tough moving through the world when you come across as “different”. I just kind of feel for them.

2 09 2009
lara21167

It’s funny Witchy weird “different” type people tend to attach themselves to me. I guess because I’m nice to them and don’t treat them any different.

2 09 2009
Clo

Laura, I know what you mean. Case in point next door, the Grandma speaks VERY little english. She’ll manage a hi every now and then, but for the most part it’s blank stares and empty smiles. She got a whole lot nicer to us once we had Cayden. The Mom of the family… I think she’s American, but I don’t think she’s allowed to talk to us. I’ve lived her for 2 years, I’ve seen her a handful of times, and have spoke to her, no joke, once, when she said Hi. The Dad is just a jerk, and I don’t like him. He doesn’t talk to me, and you can hear him yelling at his kids, and just the vibe he gives off, is just not nice. The rest of the family is OK, I guess. I mean like I said, the Grandma speaks little to no English, the Mom doesn’t really talk to us, and I never see the kids. But like this morning I was out back, letting the dogs out. Tater was off leash, because she listens pretty well, and one of their kids (I think it was his sisters kid that they watch. Which, I mean, his sister? Is the polar opposite of him. SO freaking chatty and nice and sweet.) comes flying around the corner. Tater starts barking, and I call her to me, and like the kid is totally ignoring any and all warning signs that hey, maybe this dog is upset and I don’t want to get any closer (Tater would NEVER bite anyone, she just barks when she can’t get to someone, like if I’m holding her back or she sees someone outside. But she can looks REALLY menacing.) I mean her fur was up, and she was barking and growling. But the kid kept laughing and coming closer, and I had two dogs and the baby, and the guy comes around the corner, doesn’t grab the kid or anything (which, I love dogs, but if a dog was acting like that around Cayden? I would have snatched Cayden up.) just is like “c’mon let’s go.” and like the kid clearly isn’t listening and he still isn’t doing anything. So finally the kid leaves, and no joke, two seconds later comes running back around the corner, and starts doing it again, and the guy doesn’t even come back around, he just yells at his kid from the front yard. I’m like really? So I ended up having to put the dogs back in the house, which was annoying.

2 09 2009
lara21167

Some people have no sense. I worry about my nephew, he is horrible to animals and no one really corrects him. My MIL has a kitten that he yanks up by the head and throws down the steps. And her yellow lab who is the most gentle dog I know, Brian sits on him, bounces on him and generally abuses him. Any other dog would rip his head off. First I hate to see kids mistreat animals and second I’m afraid he’s going to act like that with the wrong dog. My MIL baby’s him soooo much.

2 09 2009
Witchypoo33

Sweetlara…I knew you were going to say something like that about people on the weirder, geekier side attaching themselves to you. I would also, if I was always getting the brush off from most other people because I came across differently. Who doesn’t want to be around someone nice and accepting? I’m sure your kind, lovely qualities just shine right through, and everyone wants to be around someone like that. Everyone wants to feel accepted, not merely tolerated. Human nature. You’re a real sweetheart; the world needs more like you.

2 09 2009
Witchypoo33

I’m pretty sure I pissed-off my ole’ buddy, NY right and proper on the ‘Bedroom Blog’ …which is fine, since I’ve wanted her to leave me alone for months now. Maybe the shrew will finally back off now that I’ve been pretty upfront about what I think of most of her comments. We’ll see. Snicker-snicker, (Witchy’s being BAAAAAAAD today!).

Take care.

2 09 2009
lara21167

Now I just haven’t had the time to keep up with Bedroom Blog comments. But I’ll have to check them out. Go gettum’ Witchy lol.

And thank you Witchy for the kind words. Even in High School I didn’t snub those that were different. Maybe why I wasn’t in with the preppy crowd. Or maybe because I couldn’t stand the preppy snobby crowd 🙂

2 09 2009
Witchypoo33

Hee-hee…despite what it looks like with NY, (and what’s-her-face…J.), I don’t really enjoy getting into it with people, Sweetlara. But, if I feel strongly about something, or I’m just plain getting tired of “hearing” someone’s shrewish shit…I’ll jump in there. Also, if someone directly challenges me, I have no problem dealing with him/her; I’m not what you could ever describe a shy or retiring person.

The preppy, snobby crowd? I knew plenty of those types in school; going to reunions really turned up some interesting surprises regarding those personalities. Usually, Life has a way of educating idiots who think they’re better than everyone else. Sooner or later, in one way or another, everyone learns that Life experience is the great leveler of the proverbial playing field. I was friends with some genuinely nice, kind-hearted “preppies” , though; they’re not ALL assholes, you know? I’m sure you’re already well aware of that, Lara. You seem like someone who gives EVERYONE a chance – which is how it should be.

Take care.

2 09 2009
Witchypoo33

should read, “describe AS a, etc…”

3 09 2009
lara21167

Yes, Witchy I’ve had some of the “preppies” from school Friend me on Facebook, imagine that 🙂 I really try not to judge people. and to be fair to all. Don’t always succeed in that, but I try. Today is my doctor appointment so I’ll let ya’ll know how it goes.

3 09 2009
Witchypoo33

Uh-hugh, Lara…let us know, please.

Take care

3 09 2009
lara21167

Ok just back from the doc’s. I have to get another sonogram. But he doesn’t think it’s cysts. The one cyst was on my left side, and this pain is mostly on my right. Anyhoo what he thinks it is is since I had a partial hysterectomy, my overies are just kind of floating there, not attached to anything. He thinks they more or less floated down and attached themselves were they shouldn’t oughta be. He said that tends to happen with organs when another organ is removed. So I go back in 3 weeks and discuss what the sonogram shows and decide what we do if that’s the case.

3 09 2009
Witchypoo33

Well, that’s a relief, hugh, Sweetlara?! That doesn’t sound nearly as menacing as, say…I don’t know – lot’s of possibilities. Good.

Take care.

3 09 2009
lara21167

Yes it is, I know Ovarian Cancer was sort of on my mind. Would be my luck right after starting back to college and getting settled into the routine. So hopefully won’t be much to fix this, Idk.

3 09 2009
Witchypoo33

It will be just fine, Sweetlara. No worries, Me-Dear.

Take care.

5 09 2009
Clo

Ah, sorry I have been MIA, I wish I could say we’ve been busy, but I don’t really think we have. I haven’t done much, just been lazy.

Laura- I’m glad you’re OK. I’ll keep you in my thoughts/prayers until you hear back from the doc.

Witchy- J pisses me off. I don’t like her. I want to e-punch her in her face. You know who she kinda reminds me a lot of? Janey.

Rowdy- I got your email, again, I was lazy, but I wanted you to know I got it, and to tell the girls you said you’ll be updating soon.

5 09 2009
Witchypoo33

Hi, Girls. HEY! Goldie?!!! Great to hear from you, (through Cloey). I’m looking forward to visiting with you again, Sweetie…and I hope things are looking up for you.

Take care.

5 09 2009
Witchypoo33

Cloey…ok, just got back from the park with #’s 2 & 3 spawn. We took baby to his martial arts class earlier today, then the park, and now he’s laying down for a nap. About J…I think you’ve had a lot more exposure to her than I have. I haven’t ever read her blog, like you. I just know that her tacky self-promo, psedo-porn stories on the ‘Bedroom Blog’ site rubbed me the wrong way. She sure goes from airy, giggly, tell-too-much nitwit to pissed-off shrew in record time, doesn’t she? Her “Disclaimers” were such bullshit, also. I think more than anything else, bullshit pisses me off faster than anything. I can swallow a lot of different personalities without even blinking an eye…but people who are either obviously deluded about themselves, and/or their motives/actions, or jackasses who are just plain devious and phony? Uh-ugh…I tend to tell it like it is with those types – especially if I’m exposed to their crap frequently, with few options for overlooking/ignoring their douchebag presence. I usually keep it civil, but sometimes that’s difficult once the douchebag in question is good and pissed off. I don’t know…so many personalities…so many opportunities for fun – uh – I mean learning. Heeheehee. Am I a bad-girl? Nahhhhh. (I actually don’t stumble across people who I absolutely don’t like very often).

Take care, Girls.

P.S…have any of you seen those stupid harem pants that Christie Griffin is discussing on her ‘Conversation Starter’ blog? It’s about fashion this time. I can’t believe the ASSININE rags some people will wear in the name of “fashion”. It’s hilarious to me.

6 09 2009
Witchypoo33

Should read, “pseUdo-porn”…

6 09 2009
lara21167

Cloey I am glad you heard from Rowdy. Hope you are doing better Rowdy. No Witchy I haven’t really checked out “Conversation Starters” yet.

I really don’t know why I keep reading “Diary of J” it is so much teenage B/S. I’m curious on what happened in her childhood though. Yes she does remind me of Janey, Clo. In fact at one point I was wondering if she really was Janey lol.

I am”spawn” free this weekend. Kristy went with a friend and her family for the weekend. They like taking her because Kristy’s friend is the only girl so it’s nice for her to have another girl along. My son is coming to visit next weekend. Haven’t seen him in like forever so I’m anxious to see my young man. Still can’t believe he’s 18.

7 09 2009
Witchypoo

That’s great, Lara…I bet you can’t wait. Is he still growing? I know guys can grow into their early 20’s. How long has it been since you’ve seen him? Are Ritchie and Kristy close? I don’t remember if I’ve asked you that before or not.

Take care.

7 09 2009
Clo

Awww Yay for son time! And I had a family kinda like that with Kristy, only the girl I always got to go with wasn’t an only girl.. Sarah had a little sister, but the family they vacationed with had a boy the same age as Sarah’s little brother, and a girl the age of Sarah’s sister, so Sarah always got to invite someone, and it was usually me. We spent an awesome week at the beach on year.

Laura, I also had the same idea as J being Janey, but I don’t think so. She doesn’t really write like Janey did, but who knows? And ten bucks says J was molested. I mean I don’t want to downplay it like it’s not a big deal, or horrible, because it is both a big deal and horrible… I just think it’s pretty predictable. I just don’t like her whole persona, or the way she comes off. And all her “drama” that is unavoidable, is easily avoidable. She just engages.

We have to go see the in laws tomorrow. She’s already driving me nuts. For one she keeps saying how she’s going to go overboard because it’s his birthday, which, whatever. I don’t care, but then she goes on about how much they have to pay (something broke in their car, a heater coil or something, it’s not urgent that it needs to be fixed, but does need to be done before winter) which will be 750 dollars, then they have their houses taxes coming up, and yada yada yada. She went on about it for-ev-er so I told her she didn’t have to get him anything to which she was like “It’s his first birthday! I’m going nuts!” and I’m just like, O-K. Then it’s like, we have to go over our plans 50 thousand times, it’s wicked annoying. Like we’re getting together tomorrow, Jeremy called her last night, went over the details. She called again today while we were over at a friends, he called her back and went over the details again, this time telling him that my Mom had Cayden tonight (which she flipped over “is he going to be coming over tomorrow?”) then mentioned that before we came over there, we were going to visit a friend of ours who was having a cookout. We don’t want to stay long, we won’t know anyone there really, just want to stop in, hang out for a minute, and leave. So he got off the phone, and then she called back. Kept going on and on about how maybe we should cancel, had like, twenty reasons. “Well you’re going to your friends” “Well your Dad’s not getting off till four”

And it’s just so annoying, because she gives me a five hour guilt trip when we’re over about not seeing her, and then when we do, it has to be this whole ordeal and she has to confirm the time a hundred times, and then she tries to cancel. So old.

7 09 2009
lara21167

Cloey you could do a whole blog on your inlaws lol. I was thinking J’s big childhood secret was she wasn’t breastfed lol. I’m joking but her big drama is so not a big deal. Her BFF falls in love in 2 days with a cheater, cusses her out for not liking him, then gets cheated on and J is there to pick up the peices.

Witchy yes Kristy and Richie are close. He’d be right there if any boy ever hurt her I’m sure. And she adores her big brother. It has been a couple of months since I’ve seen him. So I am looking forward to it. Oh and I think he’s still growing. Seems a bit taller ever time I see him.

7 09 2009
Clo

Yeah, I mean it’s funny that she’s trying to make herself older in the blog, when she admitted this all happened when she was in high school, and to me it’s obvious high school drama. I went back and read some more late last night. I couldn’t sleep and I was bored, there was nothing else to do, but I just get so freaking pissed off cuz I’m like. Really? C’mon!

And I mean, Valerie’s getting all this flack for not updating enough, and I know on J’s blog I said people had a right to their own opinions, and they do. But it’s like, J also has the DUMBEST reasons for missing posts. My friends dog died. Really? I’m sick. Oh but you’re not too sick to sit up in bed and write out the post like you claimed you were going to do. Oh I had a 3-some and it got out of hand, and I’m heading for a divorce. Which, I don’t buy, I mean if they were seriously heading for a divorce, it wouldn’t had gotten solved in like, 3 days. I mean it’s all drama that she creates. It’s not like she has a baby to take care of, and all that goes with that and can randomly pop up with it, or a sick grandfather, and all that can pop up with that, a house.. You know. Had J come up with like, school reasons to not post, I’m like, OK. I see that as being a valid reason. But I do think she’s also lying/exaggerating over the whole school thing. I also things she brags about shit.

7 09 2009
Witchypoo

Hi, Ladies. Lara…isn’t it strange to see how fast these guys grow at this stage? Both of my older spawn are taller than me now…I’m 5’7, so I’m not short. It’s strange seeing even my 13 year-old angling his face downward to talk to me, (except if I’m in heels…then we’re more on-par). What’s really crazy is that this development seemed to have happened overnight. We run into extended family and friends in the local stores and everyone does a double-take on how big they’ve gotten. Baby spawn always gets taken for at least being in kindergarten…and he’ll just be starting preschool in a week or so. That’s the thing, Cloey…the time with these little guys FLIES. Always make sure to enjoy it – no matter what else is going on. I think the happiest people are the ones who can look back and think, “Yeah, we sure have been having fun, haven’t we?” That’s the most important thing.

Take care.

7 09 2009
lara21167

Yes it is hard to have to look up at my 12 year old daughter lol.

Cloey yea I was wondering why Val was getting so upset about a couple of nasty commentors seemed a bit extreme. Then when she said she was getting nasty emails, damn what the hell is wrong with people why do they think she or any other blogger owes them something?? I understand where you are coming from with J. She complained all the time about Bedroom blog, then as you said comes up with the dumbest problems to why she can’t post.

8 09 2009
lara21167

What a day!! The bosses decided to clean out some storage areas and guess who had to go through boxes to see if they should be kept, stored, or trashed? Then I had to mark them for storage off site. Pain in the ass. And I wore a skirt and uncomfortable shoes. Now I’m tired 🙂 And tonight I have to do my Finance Quiz and my calculator is not accurate in the calculations I need to do (it’s a real pain to work without one). So it’ll be a fun quiz.

8 09 2009
Clo

I dunno, I’m kinda angry at Val. I think she’s blowing the WHOLE thing way out of proportion. I mean I thought she kinda spazzed when she wrote the comment freaking out because people kept saying they couldn’t wait for the next post. But, I chalked it up to a bad day or stress or something. And then when she said she was getting emails, I was like, oh OK. But, I mean honestly, I feel like she’s making a mountain out of a molehill. And, all the options that were suggested to her, that might make the situation better, she doesn’t want to take. It’s like she wants all this drama, and I don’t feel like it’s fair to dangle a post over our head and make us beg, ya know? Which is what I feel like she’s doing. And, I also don’t like the fact that you have to walk on eggshells in the comments. Like I mean, obviously “I can’t wait for the next post!” is putting an insane amount of pressure on her, so who knows what else will? I dunno, I’m kinda over it.

9 09 2009
lara21167

You know Cloey I was kind of thinking the same thing. I mean I’ve commented trying to be supportive, but that post she put was like punishing everyone for a couple of people and really there were only a couple of comments that were a bit bitchy. And really it’s only her choice on how she takes things. Those that commented on how often the check for an update and can’t wait until the next one, well they are compliments not pressure. Yea someone who chews her out for “ruining her day” by not posting that’s uncalled for but now it looks like everyone is just kissing ass to get another post. A commentor said that to her and yes I feel like a puppy having a piece of steak help just out of reach. I love the blog and love her writing, but I’m not into being treated like a child.

9 09 2009
lara21167

supposed to be “held” out of reach

9 09 2009
Witchypoo

Hi Ladies. Which blog does this tortured artist kindly contribute to the benefit of the humble masses? Just curious…I’m kind of out of the loop, (I only read the Apathy blog other than Bedroom).

Take care.

9 09 2009
lara21167

It’s the 15 miles from Utopia we’ve been bragging about. The author got a few uncalled for comments about not posting on time. Which she does post very often and pretty darn close to the times she specified. Well she pretty much jumped down everyone’s throat for a couple of comments supposedly putting much pressure on her to post. Idk. like I told Cloey I was trying to be supportive she is a very talented writer, but her post to her readers was pretty much out of line. Think I may just stick with this blog, Cloey’s and Bedroom blog and the heck with the rest. Witchy I know you and Cloey are night owls, but I’m tired and going to bed. I just finished entering Avon orders and doing my Finance quiz. So nighty night…

9 09 2009
Witchypoo

Ok, Lara. Hope your Finance quiz went well, (I bet it did). I’m actually not a night owl at all. On weeknights I’m normally in bed by 10:00 – 10:30, (up by 6:00 am). Weekends I do stay up with the family reading, watching movies, and whatever else. Sometimes during the summer, (especially this summer), I’ll stay up and watch stupid shows with the 2 older spawn, (‘Family Guy’, etc.)…but not too often, because I still get up early to work out. Get some rest, Lara.

Nightie-night, Girls, and take care.

9 09 2009
lara21167

Witchy I don’t know how the Finance Quiz went. I’m aggrevated because I know how to do the problems. But I just got a Finance Calculator and when I use it I’m a little off on my answers. Now the book that came with the calculator I can do their problems and come out right. (these problems are just too complex to work manually) Anyhoo, hopefully I did ok.

9 09 2009
Clo

Yeah, I thought Witchy was a night owl too, but I think she’s in a different time zone than us, which makes her seem like she’s up later. And Laura, I meant to wish you luck on your quiz, but after my rant it slipped my mind. But I hope you did well!

I mean, the thing about the comments, is I don’t think any of them were really all that mean. I mean I do think her issues for not posting are WAY more legit than J’s reasons, but if you say that you want people to post their opinions, than their opinion MIGHT be “You should post more” or “You’re not posting enough” or “You set the schedule, stick to it or change it.” I just don’t see how it’s harsh. I’m relying on the emails that we haven’t seen, but who knows how harsh those are? I mean they could be really bad, or they could be a reader writing to say “I’m sorry you’re under stress, I love your blog and check daily for updates, so please don’t quit writing, even if it’s once a week we love it!” and the author takes that wrong. If she responds to something like that the way she’s responding to us, I can very easily see a fight getting started. I mean someone’s emailing her trying to be supportive, she’s taking it the wrong way, and snaps. But, then again, I mean I don’t know what these emails are saying. For all I know they could be “You piece of shit write or I’ll kill you!” So maybe she’s not over-reacting due to the emails. I don’t know. But I think it’s kinda clear what she’s decided, seeing as how she said she’d sleep on it, and now it’s been two days.

The thing about blogging is, I don’t think it’s all that hard. Maybe it’s because my story’s not as complex as hers, and I mean while we both have a crawling child, I don’t have a sick father (or grandfather, whichever he is) to also take care of. But, I write when Cayden’s napping, and when he’s asleep at night, I get ahead, and that way when there’s a bad day and I don’t have a chance to write, I can still post. I say I want peoples opinions, and I do. Nobody has posted any negative yet, but even if they did, it’s their opinion, I don’t have to agree with it, acknowledge it, or even like it. If someone said they wanted me to post more, I’d just say no. I mean really, how hard is that? And I told people in the beginning, I post every other day, if something were to come up that I can let you know about in advance, I will. But sometimes life happens, and if I miss a post, it’s not a big deal. And I dunno, people seem to be OK with that. People just act like it’s this huge amount of work and stress, and maybe I’m doing something different, because I don’t think it is, at all.

9 09 2009
lara21167

Cloey it’s the way you look at and they way you did not set yourself to a strict schedule. Val set a ridgid schedule and some people want to hold her to that like she owes them something. But I mean it’s her choice how to handle it, she has to set her boundries and stick to them. Someone emails, “oh you ruined my day by not posting” She can ignore or simply write back something like Sorry your day was ruined but I had a busy day and couldn’t post. That way she’s acknowledging the poor person with no life and is politely but firmly sticking to her boundries. Getting all upset and pretty much yelling at all your readers and then holding a post over everyone’s head is just not the way. I hate to give up on that blog, but idk, this gets kind of old. And besides I have your blog Cloey, and it’s really getting good.

9 09 2009
Witchypoo

Yeah, my thoughts also, (having Cloey’s blog to read). I wasn’t sure how much you wanted us to mention about it on here, Cloey…since the identity issue is a tricky thing. I haven’t even read any others, except for part of the Utopia blog once a couple of months back. I did briefly check out a few of the comments from her latest post, since there seems to be so much angst surrounding it. I was surprised to read how upset and adamant the author – Valerie – was in her statements about all that. She seems just plain stressed to me…like maybe her personal obligations are weighing heavily on her. I do think that whenever you’re offering a service to people – strangers – who don’t have any personal ties to you, there needs to be a certain mindset from the beginning of some detachment when dealing with them…any comments/critiques – whatever. I think she’s taking it very personally, and that’s only going to encourage certain personality types to poke at her all the more. As far as her allowing access to her personal email – I can’t figure out why she’d ever do that. There’s no way I’d let strangers have that much access to me personally. That was a bad judgement call. Anyhoo…I’m not going to bother reading at all after she phrased it the way she did about maybe she’ll continue and maybe she won’t. That seems a little too much like game-playing to me, and I don’t usually engage if I can help it. She’s too emotional for my taste.

Also, yeah…I’m on Pacific time, which is 3 hours behind you, Lara, and I think it’s the same with your’s, Cloey? Are you on Eastern Standard time? Babyspawn and I just got back from the park; he had a lot of fun with this adorable little girl who had her babydoll with her. There’s this huge set of cement stairs with a railing leading up to an area that has two long, winding, brightly-colored tunnel slides; Heath loves these. So, this cute little girl is following him all over the playground, and she follows him as he starts up the stairs, and he offers to carry her babydoll for her. She smiled and let him carry her “baby”, and then when they reached the top, I watched them hanging out, and the little girl, (Emerson is her name), took my little man’s hand…and they just stood at the top for a few minutes, giggling and holding hands. It made me wish I’d brought my digital recorder…so cute I’ll always remember it.

Take care, Ladies.

9 09 2009
Clo

Yeah, Laura, she could do that, or she could just change her schedule. I mean, Karen from Karen Chronicles recently did that (that’s a pretty decent blog as well.) because she had school work. Which is more important, school or a free blog you write? I mean anyone who would say that the blog is more important is obviously an idiot, and I personally don’t care if idiots like me or not.

And Witchy, I thought the same thing about her having more personal stress. That’s what it seems like to me. And again, which is more important, your life, or a free blog you write? If you want to take some time off, take some time off. I’m sure many people will wait till she comes back, her blog IS good. But that’s what I meant when I said she doesn’t want to take any of the suggestions people gave her. People said take time off! Write ahead and that way you’ll have something to post! Change your schedule! She doesn’t want to do any of it, she just wants to complain, and that’s what honestly drives me nuts. I mean having a child who’s crawling, I know how rough it is. Valerie and I talked through email one time, her daughter is only like a week older than Cayden. I’m sure you all remember that stage as well. If I take my eyes off Cayden for a second, it’s like, he’s gone. He’s got something in his mouth. He’s trying to climb on something. He pulled to stand and then fell and whacked his head and is crying. I mean even if you have baby proofed (which we still haven’t done, it’s like he started crawling overnight and now when do I have time to baby proof?) Cayden seems to find a way to try to hurt himself even on the things we DID baby-proof. Add a sick father (or grandfather. Again, I dunno which one she said it was) to the mix, I can imagine that it’s crazy. But again, if life is that crazy? You take a break from everything you CAN take a break from, and you focus on what needs to get done.

Witchy, I love little moments like that. I’m so pissed because we have been REALLY bad about taking videos. And, my house eats things (I swear, once we lost the remote, and we looked EVERYWHERE for it. It turned up under the couch, but I SWEAR both Jeremy and I looked under it multiple times. We say there’s a black hole or a vortex) so the battery to the video camera has gotten lost. I’m really hoping to be able to get one so we can record his party. Hmmm, I’ll have to have Jeremy look one up on ebay.

9 09 2009
Clo

Ha ha, Witchy, I thought you’d ESPECIALLY love this.

So, I get a comment saying from a person who reads my blog who says she got my link from another blog site, and she infers that it was on one of the sites I was talking about (I mentioned both Valeries and J’s, not by name, but by drama) so I looked through Val’s recent comments (BTW, her new post is really nasty, I think. I mean the more she talks the more I don’t like her. I just feel like she wants people to talk to her super nice and everything, but doesn’t care how she comes off to other people.)

ANYWAY, it wasn’t in Val’s comments, so I looked through J’s. Someone mentioned reading her stuff on Bedroom Blog, and J replied back that she doesn’t go back to that Board anymore because all we do is spread negativity. Ha, it made me giggle.

10 09 2009
lara21167

That is funny Cloey. I commented on Vals blog I’m being nice, I feel she has alot of crap going on and for whatever reason she is taking it out on her readers. But I just told her she has to set boundries and take some time to decide what she wants to do. She just seems to have alot of anger in her, i know she mentioned that her baby has medical problems, so maybe that’s it. But it is getting tiresome. I’d give up on it if I didn’t like the blog so much.

witchy, that is sooo cute. “baby spawn” is at a really cute age right now. Enjoy. And Cloey, I remember the age Cayden is and it gets worse when they start walking. One time when Richie was a baby I had him in his walker and my 1st hubby went out the front door, which we never used. well the screen door didn’t latch and there was a porch with steps leading down to the sidewalk. I turned away from Richie for a second and he was gone. I saw the front door open and ran for it looking down the steps on the porch expecting him and his walker to be face first on the sidewalk. Well he did go out put stayed on the porch. I swear they’ll give you a heart attack!!

10 09 2009
Witchypoo

I know, Lara. I remember when Chancey was 5 years-old and in kindergarten…I’d go to pick him up everyday as they were lined up outside, some waiting for buses, some waiting for parents to come and get them. He’d see me from really far away and get this huge, gap-toothed grin on his face…then he’d shout to the teacher, “There’s my Mommie! There’s my Mommie!” (the kids can’t get out of line until they’re excused). When the teacher told him he could go, he’d come tearing across the grass and jump up in my arms, giving me a big hug, everyday. I mean, it’s images like that which imprint forever on your heart. Kindergarten is still young enough so that they don’t worry about appearances…no self-consciousness about showing lots of affection and all that. I just love the simplicity of it, also…the purity of expression. Baby’s preschool orientation is tomorrow; hubby will meet us there. I’m trying not to start feeling panicky and clingy about my baby; it’s challenging to force my mind into a certain mode, (necessary, though, so that Heath doesn’t pick up on any hesitation, or mixed signals from me). Lara, your memory about Richie and the porch with steep steps…makes me shudder just to imagine it. The little devils really DO scare the crap out of you in a million different ways, don’t they? Just hang on and enjoy the ride, Cloey…Cayden is just getting started. Lara, what’s new with Kristy and the cheer squad? You haven’t mentioned it lately, (at least, I don’t think you have…I could have missed something). This weekend is almost here and you’ll have your guy with you! Getting excited? Any special plans?

Anyhoo…blogs and controversy. What a pain-in-the-ass. I knew I was being smart by sticking to Cloey’s. Not only do I love the writing, plots, character development, background info…etc., (which I do – very much)…I also enjoy the LACK of bullshit-overly-sensitive vibes that emanate out of other blogs’ comments section. I don’t get the sense that you’re going to flip out everytime the north wind blows, or there’s a full moon, or you’re just out-of-sorts for whatever reason. I also don’t have to be disgusted with your lack of dignity and good common sense regarding matters that are best left in the private realm of your own marriage, (i.e…J’s sexy-threesome-adventures with love-of-her-life-hubby and best-bud-turned-bed-partner). So the horse’s ass thinks I, (I’m assuming she’s especially referring to me, since I was pretty blunt with her), was “spreading negativity” because I essentially told her to keep her pie-hole shut about the awesome-threesome details? Poor, silly J.: what’s a girl gotta do these days to have her skanky, self-serving tales of extra-marital sexual exploits appreciated and revered by the humble masses, anyway? You know…the “spreading negativity” line is just a fall-back for people who don’t have the ability to defend their actions effectively. In other words, she can’t think of anything better to say. I think that girl, (and dumbasses like her), NEEDS to have more people tell her a few things. Now THERE’S my real opinion, and I didn’t tell her any of that. THAT would have been negative. You know, I just think there’s a time and place for plain-talk, and that instance was one of them. I wasn’t trying to make friends with her; I was attempting to get her to see how ridiculous she was coming off with her droning rundown about her private affairs. Maybe I was a little rough on her, but that isn’t always such a bad thing with some people. That’s just my opinion.

Ok, Cloey…sorry you got me started on that subject yet? Heeheehee.

Nightie-night, Ladies.

10 09 2009
Clo

Well, I mean, I haven’t had any drama in my comments, and if I did… I don’t really think I’d care. I mean, it’s people on the internet. They don’t know me. So it’s whatever. I just think if YOU set the schedule, then YOU should stick to it. Once in awhile something coming up, I get. But if it happens repeatedly? I mean then obviously your posting schedule is too much, and you should change it. I mean Karen at the Karen Chronicles did, and nobody complained. I mean I don’t think Valerie even missed that many postings, but I do think she took comments WAY out of proportion. Then the thing with J is, it’s like she “called off” three times to dick around, and then is complaining because she got yelled at the fourth time she called off, when she had a valid reason.

And then the two things that ABSOLUTELY kill me are when people a.) Complain on other blogs (like J did on bedroom blog) about lack of posting, and then be all like “I’ll post when I can!” I mean, maybe the bedroom blog author is getting paid for it. But still, I think when you make a commitment and say “I’m gonna post x, y, and z days” then you need to stick with it. If your life is hectic, switch to a “I’ll post what I can when I can” schedule.

and b.) when they open up comments, say things like “Oh, tell me your opinions, I want to know!” and then get mad when people have an opinion that differs from them. Either close the comments or suck it up.

10 09 2009
lara21167

Well said Cloey, I mean anything I committ to I take seriously and if I had a blog I would make an attempt to keep to the schedule I set, but I wouldn’t stress out if something came up and I couldn’t.

Witchy Cheerleading is practice, practice, practice right now. 2 hours Tues. Sat morn 1 1/2 hrs dance and then 3 hours of Cheer practice. But there is alot of Cheer drama going on. Apparently other teams are mad at us, particularly this one team that we have always supported at competitions. A lot of their girls have come to our team because their coach/founder is a crook. So the rest of them are mad their girls heckle our girls when they get a chance. Stupid stuff. Let us know how preschool orientation goes.

10 09 2009
lara21167

Val completely took the comments off her blog. Sahm on Cosmo mentioned it so I had to check it out. I just don’t understand her, I mean she came across at first seemly intelligent, nice, and level headed. And I’ve been trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. But she is really acting childish now.

10 09 2009
Clo

Personally she’s coming across as a crazy bitch right now to me. Which, is really horrible of me to say, I know. I just feel like there better be some real drama/stress in her real life, because if there isn’t, then she’s taking this all way too seriously, out of proportion, and is being… Well, a crazy bitch. I mean, I don’t wish her stress and drama, I just mean that if there isn’t something else going on, I think the girl has problems.

And Laura, that’s super lame about cheer, people can be dumb. Does Kristy still seem into it? (Not that I think you’d push her to go if she wasn’t.) Are you excited for your son coming in? I know Witchy already asked, but I dunno if you answered or I missed it, but do you guys have any special plans?

And, I don’t think Cayden could get any worse than he is right now. It’s horrible, he’s into everything. He hates being dressed and freaks out, he finds the ONE thing we don’t want him in, and gets into it, he wants to hang on me all the time, unless I want to change his diaper and then he “runs” away so to speak. I am super excited for his party. Let’s just hope for good weather, or I’m screwed! It rained at my outdoor baby shower, soooo I think I deserve a little good luck.

And Witchy, do let us know how the orientation goes, I bet Heath looks SO adorable. Did you get him his own back to school gear? Was he excited about it?

10 09 2009
Clo

Do you think part of the reason she took off comments was because people were sharing blog links? I mean maybe that pissed her off.

10 09 2009
Witchypoo

Hi there, Ladies. How’s it going today? Yup…Heathness had his orientation for preschool today; it was almost 2 hours with everything. Hubby came home at lunchtime today, then we took him together. Babyspawn loved it! I feel about a million times better after seeing him in the setting with his teacher, and the other kids. I mean, Beef is really outgoing and friendly…I don’t think he really has a shy bone in his body. Still, it’s a process for me to ready myself for the normal separation issue, (mine, not his); it’s just something that I always go through with these “firsts”. The good thing is that I’m learning to anticipate these anxious, slightly melancholy emotions I typically get when letting go and stepping back a little with each new “stage” that the spawn enter. He’s my youngest baby, and we’ve all doted on him quite a bit. Somehow, he’s managed to stay really sweet, and he’s really friendly and cooperative with other children. Uh-oh…Beau just called and needs to be picked up from football practice now – it ended early today. More later, Ladies.

11 09 2009
lara21167

Yes I am looking forward to seeing Richie, Now he may not be able to come over, he is trying to get a job at Fed x and is waiting for an orientation/plant tour that they do for new applicants but they are not sure when it will be so if that interfers then we’ll have to reschedule which may be best since now I have to work Bingo Saturday night (which seems like I always do when Richie comes) of course if one of my team calls off I’d make Richie go with me and work since he’s 18 now lol.

I am glad Heath did well at his orientation, that does make things so much easier. It is so hard to let go.

Cloey I got really irritated with Val when poor Sahm mentioned on BB that she felt partcially responsible for pressureing Val. I saw her comment she didn’t say anything out of line, she was just excited for a new post.

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